Can Someone Please VERIFY this info...

[pharmd]

All dealers will have at least 1 camaro by May 6th composed of sold order cars. The dealer has no say as to which "sold order" car GM pulls for this 1st order. They said the order will be pulled on April 16th, they will be able to see which order was pulled by April 21st, and they should have the car on their lot on or before May 6th. After that then the cars will be mass produced, and everyones orders will be filled (I presume in the order they were placed by the dealer).

This is what I'm being told...can someone (preferrably Camaro Scotty or another dealer) verify that this is the correct methodology for ordering to work?

Thanks!

[Inspector 17]

We have heard from various sources that all dealers will have at least one car by May 6th. I was under the impression that that car would be their V6 dealer demo car, NOT someone's sold order.

The dealer has every say as to which "sold order" gets pulled first. Let's assume that they have 5 sold orders and there are no constraints on any of those orders. GM tells them that they have one order that can be filled. It is up to the dealer to decide which of those 5 orders gets submitted. Now if there are constraints, that changes the game.

Again, it is up to the dealer to decide in what order their particular orders get placed (again assuming no constraints on orders). How produced cars are distributed across the US is another topic all together. However, it is not necessarily done in the order in which they were placed. Some people who ordered on October 13th may actually get their cars after people who ordered after them.

I hope this helps.

[NUCAR]

Originally Posted by pharmd

All dealers will have at least 1 camaro by May 6th composed of sold order cars. The dealer has no say as to which "sold order" car GM pulls for this 1st order. They said the order will be pulled on April 16th, they will be able to see which order was pulled by April 21st, and they should have the car on their lot on or before May 6th. After that then the cars will be mass produced, and everyones orders will be filled (I presume in the order they were placed by the dealer).

This is what I'm being told...can someone (preferrably Camaro Scotty or another dealer) verify that this is the correct methodology for ordering to work?

Thanks!

Not correct. He may have been refering to the "show room" V-6 cars. An order which gets picked up by the system will not be there by May 6.

[ibznu2010]

i was # 4 at my dealer & mine was pulled 1st. Today i got the call.

[Edrock]

In any case, the dealer's V6 (show/stock) car comes first like Pete and Nucar said, then pre-orders. I don't think anything has changed with that.

[pharmd]

Originally Posted by camaropete

We have heard from various sources that all dealers will have at least one car by May 6th. I was under the impression that that car would be their V6 dealer demo car, NOT someone's sold order.

The dealer has every say as to which "sold order" gets pulled first. Let's assume that they have 5 sold orders and there are no constraints on any of those orders. GM tells them that they have one order that can be filled. It is up to the dealer to decide which of those 5 orders gets submitted. Now if there are constraints, that changes the game.

Again, it is up to the dealer to decide in what order their particular orders get placed (again assuming no constraints on orders). How produced cars are distributed across the US is another topic all together. However, it is not necessarily done in the order in which they were placed. Some people who ordered on October 13th may actually get their cars after people who ordered after them.

I hope this helps.

So at this point do we know if they are correct in saying that if the one order being pulled "could be" a sold order? #2) Are they accurate in saying it will be on the lot on or before May 6th?

[Txturbo]

I don't see how they could wait until April 16th to start pulling one car for each dealer and then have them all built and delivered before may 6th.

[myblackcamaros]

i just talked to my dealer today and they said my car should be here before the "v6" showroom car, but they would like to use my SS as the unveiling car. My car's production date is 04/06/09 as reported to me by Chevy Customer Service. Currently I'm sitting on event code 3400.

[Inspector 17]

Originally Posted by pharmd

So at this point do we know if they are correct in saying that if the one order being pulled "could be" a sold order? #2) Are they accurate in saying it will be on the lot on or before May 6th?

1. That is correct. The V6 car that is going to every dealer does not count against their allocation.

2. I don't remember the original source of the information, but several people (including some dealers) have said that all dealers will have at least one car by May 6th.

Originally Posted by Txturbo

I don't see how they could wait until April 16th to start pulling one car for each dealer and then have them all built and delivered before may 6th.

That is why the V6s were on constraint early on, because they were building the dealer cars. They were building them from day 1.

[pharmd]

Talked with the owner of the dealership last night...he said GM will pull the oldest "sold" order (which is mine) as long as its not on constraint. He said that the time frame that was mentioned April 16th (pulled), April 21st (dealer knows which order was pulled), May 6th (car on lot) sounded about right. I guess we will know soon enough.

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by pharmd

Talked with the owner of the dealership last night...he said GM will pull the oldest "sold" order (which is mine) as long as its not on constraint. He said that the time frame that was mentioned April 16th (pulled), April 21st (dealer knows which order was pulled), May 6th (car on lot) sounded about right. I guess we will know soon enough.

Here is a copy of a post I did last night: Hope this helps understand a little more:Now as promised I will share my new understanding of concensus, allocation report etc. Allocation report is not to be confused with the term we have all been using when refering to the number of cars a dealer will be allocated thru quarter 3. I will use the term production guide for that from this point forward. Allocation as I will use will represent the number of cars the dealer has been given during a specific period (1 week) that he can process the order for. Below you will see the copy of the Allocation Report that RPO had posted. There is another view of this report that really made a lot more sense to me when it was explained to me. I do not have a copy of one to post but maybe one of the dealers out there will flash a copy here for us to see. But let me try to explain it verbally. Ok I was looking at the allocation report from March it covered the last two weeks of March and the first 3 weeks of April. Forget March because they are "0" because those cars were already ordered from the Feb Allocation Report. Ok today April 2 lets say the report shows a 1. This mean the dealer can process a car into the production system. So he would then go to the Pass one report and select the car he wishes to order. He has until the following Tuesday to place it. If he does nothing GM will order the lowest priority number that does not have constraints. Hope this part made sense. Then on the report the next week April 9 is listed. Under it lets say it says 0. The dealer can not place an order that week so he does nothing and no Camaros go into production. Then at the top is says April 16. Under it lets say it says 2. Now the dealer can order two cars using the same process described above. Boom, that is it. This is exactly where we stand as of today. Cars that have been Allocated and ordered into production have moved off of the 1100 status. So based on this many dealers might have an allocation of a car or several cars effective today. The dealer can process that today thru Tuesday. Then shortly thereafter the status code of those cars will change prob to 2000 (Gm Accepted) Now that does not in any way mean the car is going to be built that week or next. It just means that the dealer was allocated and submitted an order for a car. On the pass one report the ordered car will then go into the In System Tab. Based on the above information as of today the dealer may know he has two cars to order April 16th but he can not order them until then. The cars being built right now and from March 16th were all from the Feb. allocation report. Some dealers might have had allocation given during the last two weeks of March but that was to place the orders and those cars may have proceeded to status 3000, 3300 or even 3400 but it would not be uncommon for them to still be at 2000. GM has accepted the dealer order and production is scheduling it to be built. The production line uses the policy of Just In Time for parts supply. This means that there is very little surplus stock of parts and they arrive just in time for that car to be built. Some cars have been stuck at 3400 for a while. That would indicate that the parts to build that car are "just a little late" so that car will not proceed until all the parts are ready for it. GM production will generally issue a TPW (target production week). This is an estimate based on when they think all the parts will be in stock and ready for the car to be built. It is only an estimate and a target. It can and will move dependent on its parts. Now early on it is very possible for a car to be built even before a TPW has been assigned. Parts ready and the car has proceeded even before they system posts and catches up. Good surprise for some. Ok below is the allocation report that was posted previously. But as I said there is a detail one up from this one that breaks out the weeks. This one is a little more general and breaks it out by months. The next allocation report will be for the last two weeks of April and first 2 or 3 weeks of May. I have not figured the dates yet but you can count ahead and prob figure it out. The next allocation report should be available on April 19 I believe. My thanks go to a longtime forum member and future Camaro owner NOL300 who took the time today to go over the entire order process with me today. He is an incredible asset to the forum and I was humbled by his generousity today. Nolan, Thank you.This is as promised Accurate information as best as I could provide. Dealers feel free to clarify any information. Adios all

[Edrock]

^^^ Dude - your avatar is funny and sick at the same time.

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by Edrock

^^^ Dude - your avatar is funny and sick at the same time.

Notice my eye popping out and flinging against the wall?