Your V6 Suspension upgrades!

[Cyber Gray]

So guys I'm done with all the possible bolt ons!

Cat back + CAI + Long tube headers + Trifecta tune + Hi flow cats + Vmax TB.

Although I installed the Pfadt sport sway bar and lowered the car 1" with Eibach pro kit, the car likes to dance the twist on hard launch .

So I contacted our dear friends in Juiced Motors and bought the full BMR suspension kit ( Trailing Arms, Toe rods, end links, cardle bushings, and differential bushings).

The boxes are still in my bed room (I guess that Im not the only gentle man in this forum who treats his parts very well ).

Before installing the parts, I need to know whether some of you did actually tried them on the V6. I need some views especially on the differential bushings. I heard that they cause in cabin noise!

While others claim they are no use for low hp like ours. However, BMR recommends them on all cars !!

Anyway, I feel that we need a bit of suspension taste here in this thread as most of the threads in the Suspension section is full of V8 dudes and reviews. We always hang out here !

[mhog]

The V6 Camaro is not a low end HP vehicle. It has more hp than V8s in the past. Had it been a V8 with the same hp it wouldn't be a question to those who think like that. I have the parts that you are talking about and they have made my v6 camaro a better vehicle. Go and put them on and you will enjoy your camaro even more.

[Blade]

I have the Detroit Suspension Track Pack 1. Came with lowering springs, front and rear sway bars. I haven't experienced a "twist" on hard launches.

[Cyber Gray]

mhog. There are some suspension upgrades for cars making 450 hp + so our V6 doesnt really need them.

Blade are you using drag radials/nito tires? Because the wheel hop is awful on my rear wheels and that causes the fishtail on hard launch unless I ease a bit on the gas at the start.

That is not good either !

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by Cyber Gray

mhog. There are some suspension upgrades for cars making 450 hp + so our V6 doesnt really need them.

Blade are you using drag radials/nito tires? Because the wheel hop is awful on my rear wheels and that causes the fishtail on hard launch unless I ease a bit on the gas at the start.

That is not good either !

The trailing arms and differential bushing should help a lot with the wheel hop.

I can't remember if you the the A6 or M6 transmission. If it is the A6, then the fishtailing may be more because of the one-wheel spin problem. That always pissed me off. If you didn't heat the tires up good one would spin and the rearend would kick out.

[gahammerle]

I installed the Pedders Street I in mine (subframe inserts + front inserts). The difference in launches, cornering, and acceleration out of the corners is so much better now. Anyone who tracks the car - either drag or road course - needs at least the subframe inserts.

You should watch the videos of the stock subframe bushings and then watch a video with aftermarket bushings and you will see an amazing difference in the amount of movement under power.

[mhog]

Originally Posted by Cyber Gray

mhog. There are some suspension upgrades for cars making 450 hp + so our V6 doesnt really need them.

Blade are you using drag radials/nito tires? Because the wheel hop is awful on my rear wheels and that causes the fishtail on hard launch unless I ease a bit on the gas at the start.

That is not good either !

The cradle bushings are for 500+ hp. You can go with cradle inserts but since you already have the bushings I woud use them. Won't hurt.

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by Cyber Gray

So guys I'm done with all the possible bolt ons!

Cat back + CAI + Long tube headers + Trifecta tune + Hi flow cats + Vmax TB.

Although I installed the Pfadt sport sway bar and lowered the car 1" with Eibach pro kit, the car likes to dance the twist on hard launch .

So I contacted our dear friends in Juiced Motors and bought the full BMR suspension kit ( Trailing Arms, Toe rods, end links, cardle bushings, and differential bushings).

The boxes are still in my bed room (I guess that Im not the only gentle man in this forum who treats his parts very well ).

Before installing the parts, I need to know whether some of you did actually tried them on the V6. I need some views especially on the differential bushings. I heard that they cause in cabin noise!

While others claim they are no use for low hp like ours. However, BMR recommends them on all cars !!

Anyway, I feel that we need a bit of suspension taste here in this thread as most of the threads in the Suspension section is full of V8 dudes and reviews. We always hang out here !

how much was the whole kit?

[JDP Tech]

Most of the suspension upgrades for our Camaro's dont have much to do with the power the engine puts out.
Subframe (cradle) mounts (or bushings), trailing arms, toe links, sways, and springs all help a ton with cornering and stability, but also help with traction, wheel hop, etc.
Putting these parts on your car will make give it a much more enjoyable ride, it will handle a lot better, and will turn quicker.

The stock subframe bushings are weak, and too flexible, they actually move a round quite a bit, causing the whole rear subframe to move around, causing alignment issues, and instability when cornering and going through dips and pot holes.

Check this video out, when the stock bushings tweak.


The amount of power has nothing to do with how much those bushings move when cornering and working the suspension.

The noise you get from using stiffer bushings will be very minimal.
We use the Pfadt Solid Subframe Mounts religiously (SS's and LT's), and there is very little noise or vibrations that come from them.
The Corvette has used solid subframe mounts for decades without issues.

As has been stated, install your parts, and you will be very happy, and there is no overkill on your parts choices.

[Cyber Gray]

Originally Posted by mhog

The cradle bushings are for 500+ hp. You can go with cradle inserts but since you already have the bushings I woud use them. Won't hurt.

I know but the inserts will still move within the stock rubber which will get torn by time, so I thought that it will be worth going for a full bushing instead and do it all in one go !

[Cyber Gray]

Originally Posted by MichaelH

how much was the whole kit?

I didnt go for a whole set, I bought the parts that I need in one deal and that included ( Trailing arms, fixed toe rods, end links, links brackets, and pro cradle & differential bushing). It costs around $ 800.

[Cyber Gray]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

The trailing arms and differential bushing should help a lot with the wheel hop.

I can't remember if you the the A6 or M6 transmission. If it is the A6, then the fishtailing may be more because of the one-wheel spin problem. That always pissed me off. If you didn't heat the tires up good one would spin and the rearend would kick out.

Im A6 and I feel that Im running on two washing machines in the rear.

I like deep sea fishing and my Camaro gives me the same feeling as the fishing boat. I guess thats why they call it fishtail.

[Cyber Gray]

Originally Posted by Tech@JDP

Most of the suspension upgrades for our Camaro's dont have much to do with the power the engine puts out.
Subframe (cradle) mounts (or bushings), trailing arms, toe links, sways, and springs all help a ton with cornering and stability, but also help with traction, wheel hop, etc.
Putting these parts on your car will make give it a much more enjoyable ride, it will handle a lot better, and will turn quicker.

The stock subframe bushings are weak, and too flexible, they actually move a round quite a bit, causing the whole rear subframe to move around, causing alignment issues, and instability when cornering and going through dips and pot holes.

Check this video out, when the stock bushings tweak.


The amount of power has nothing to do with how much those bushings move when cornering and working the suspension.

The noise you get from using stiffer bushings will be very minimal.
We use the Pfadt Solid Subframe Mounts religiously (SS's and LT's), and there is very little noise or vibrations that come from them.
The Corvette has used solid subframe mounts for decades without issues.

As has been stated, install your parts, and you will be very happy, and there is no overkill on your parts choices.

I saw that video as well as the differential mount one. Big difference for sure .

Im enjoying your Pfadt sport sway bar and to my surprise it is still showing no harm to the stock endlinks for more than 9 months now.

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by Cyber Gray

I didnt go for a whole set, I bought the parts that I need in one deal and that included ( Trailing arms, fixed toe rods, end links, links brackets, and pro cradle & differential bushing). It costs around $ 800.

hmmm ill have to look into this b/c i def need some back end support