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03-16-2012, 01:36 PM
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Big HP manual cars... step inside....
For any of you guys running the manual transmission and having trouble getting it into gear...
I may have found the solution... I will be adding to this as time goes on.... Install issues, shifter location modifications, comfort to drive etc... This transmission is filled front to back with 9310 components... gears, shaft etc... It has the Corvette style triple cone synchros, and lots of other internal goodies... The magic of this one is the fully enclosed tail shaft housing... The shifter is internal.... This eliminates the risk of engine/trans torque motion from placing stress and forces on the shifter... My aftermarket shifter bolted to the trans tail shaft housing, then to the transmission tunnel. Under heavy loading of hard pulls in any gear, the torque twisting effect of the engine is transferred directly into the trans and consequently it allows the shifter housing to move around, which could cause the shifter to pop out of gear or to be hard to get it into gear.... With the fully enclosed shifter mechanism, there are no external forces acting on the shifter lever other than the drivers inputs.... We just recieved it at my builders shop, and I'm still offshore on an oil rig... but I'll update the progress as we go and write up my impressions when we get her on the road... This trans is not for the faint of heart... It's pricey, but should handle anything we throw at it... and allow you to retain the feel of the manual trans you originally wanted and bought... The shifter pivot point is 3.5 inches further back than on the stock 6060 and so it will require some interior modification to the center console, but it's worth it to me to finally be able to drive it really really hard without worrying about grinding it into gear just because.... I was at the point of it grinding about 60-70 percent of the time going into 4th gear on the street.. and 95+ % going into 2nd and 4th on the track... I ordered the tail shaft housing and the steel SFI rated scatter shield with it and it comes with the midplate to cross over from the trans housing to the bell housing... I know my car might be a touch faster with an automatic, but a manual is what I like driving and it's what I'll stick with... and to date the quickest 5th Gen Camaro there is has a manual trans... Go Black Pig... Stay Tuned
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If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough... |
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03-16-2012, 01:48 PM
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03-16-2012, 01:48 PM
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Drives: 2015 ZL1 6 speed Join Date: Feb 2011
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 I'd like some pics please, keep us updated.
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03-16-2012, 01:51 PM
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need....more....hp
Drives: The Neighbor Hater Join Date: Dec 2010
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nice robert! do you mind PMing me info on where you got the transmission from? Were turning up the boost next week when i get my axles back.
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Mast Motorsports Built LS3 Stroker 418, IPS GT35R Twin Turbos, Exedy GTO4XD Twin Disc Clutch, Aeromotive A1000 Eliminator Stealth Fuel Pump, AEM Meth Injection, DSS 1400hp Axels, BC Coilovers, Pfadt & BMR Suspension, Hawk HPS Pads, Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hurst Shifter, Custom Roll Cage by Blu808, T3 Ports, 22" Custom Concave Mesh Rims |
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03-16-2012, 02:44 PM
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I can't wait to see more details. 
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03-16-2012, 02:46 PM
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need....more....hp
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Mast Motorsports Built LS3 Stroker 418, IPS GT35R Twin Turbos, Exedy GTO4XD Twin Disc Clutch, Aeromotive A1000 Eliminator Stealth Fuel Pump, AEM Meth Injection, DSS 1400hp Axels, BC Coilovers, Pfadt & BMR Suspension, Hawk HPS Pads, Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hurst Shifter, Custom Roll Cage by Blu808, T3 Ports, 22" Custom Concave Mesh Rims |
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03-16-2012, 04:44 PM
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03-16-2012, 04:50 PM
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03-17-2012, 07:24 AM
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If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough... |
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03-17-2012, 07:38 AM
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I'm subscribing to this, its interesting
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03-17-2012, 07:49 AM
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I remembered a conversation I had with GTAHVIT after he got back from PRI in Florida... so I contacted Chris, found a company and name and called this company... and several others... All of which were understanding and great help... Quote:
not really... I may look at a sequential or Faceplated trans if this one doesn't work... but I have utmost confidence it will....Could you imagine a 2010 Camaro with a Lenco and five or six shifter handles sticking up... Quote:
Back on subject: Note the length of the tailshaft housing... and the fact that the shifter bolts directly to the housing... All of the linkage and mounting points are internal and as mentioned before, there are no external torque or flex forces placed on the shifter housing or internals, other than the drivers inputs... Here is part of the deal with this one... note the length of the tail shaft housing... The pivot point for the shifter is 3.5 inches further back than the stock shifter location... I think it's going to end up in a better position than stock for racing... Race cars have the steering wheels and shifters close to the body, not at arms length... It will require some internal modifications to the trans tunnel and center console... Pics will be forthcoming as the project progresses... It will also require rebuilding, modifying the cross member trans support at the rear of the trans... How extensive is that, I'm not sure yet... but we will make it work...
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If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough... |
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03-17-2012, 09:15 AM
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Big Nasty
Drives: Chevys lots of em Join Date: Jun 2010
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Subscribed!!! Way to stick with the manual Robert
 I,ve been watching your build thread for a while and I still plan on using your builder for my mods when I finally recieve everything, he sounds like an awesome dude and knows what he is doing.
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03-17-2012, 10:21 AM
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Camaro SS Lover
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black IOM Join Date: Jun 2010
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Any reason why you didn't go the route of having the TR6060 rebuilt to the max? That was the route I was going in eventually.
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03-17-2012, 11:05 AM
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Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009
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i did like the manual, but was to inconsistant on launching and car was not liking slow traffic with the cam...after the slave cylinder blew and left me stranded on the side of road , and only way to repair it was remove the tranny, that was the clincher...good luck with the stick, but imo the auto is way more constant and user friendly in 1000 hp car, and not likely leave you at the tree with a blown slave/clutch or tailshaft..getting fixed or towed home from a 500mile trip..imo
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