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2011 SS · 05-02-2012, 03:41 PM

A friend of mine has an ZL1, he just hit break in, shortly before break in I'm assuming 1300 miles or so he gets this loss of power almost like a slip but its not the tranny slipping. If he starts in first and accelerates to 20mph it wont do it but it does it in second and third, no problems at WOT but it is at 20mph every time, its the wierdest problem I cant figure it out. Suggestions? Solutions? Is this normal?

Nightspore68 · 05-02-2012, 03:51 PM

Supercharger belt loose?

Monte Mac · 05-02-2012, 03:55 PM

So he's shifting into 2nd gear before 20 mph??

2011 SS · 05-02-2012, 04:24 PM

If the belt was loose it would slip off at wot this doesn't occur at wot good guess though thank you. Its an auto it shifts into second right before twenty I believe then has that hesitation at 20 mph on the dot.

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xx_ED_xx · 05-02-2012, 04:32 PM

Called torque management...

mark · 05-02-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xx_ED_xx

Called torque management...

What he said.

hognutz · 05-02-2012, 05:44 PM

Turn off all traction/torque managment systems. I the tires break grip and the car runs fine it is probabaly the car cutting the power. If the symptoms continue with all systems off then it is something actually causing the power loss.

Rice Killer · 05-02-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

Turn off all traction/torque managment systems. I the tires break grip and the car runs fine it is probabaly the car cutting the power. If the symptoms continue with all systems off then it is something actually causing the power loss.

I don't think you can adjust torque management without a tune. I have been wrong before though.

JMAN311 · 05-02-2012, 07:09 PM

Watch the Magnetic Ride Control & Performance Traction Management Video that is sticky'd up top in the ZL1 Owner Welcome Videos thread.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220554

"Push and holding the traction control button for 5sec will turn off ALL PTM modes. Giving you full control of your ZL1."

hognutz is right, this is the best way to confirm if the car is cutting power due to low traction, or if there is a larger issue.

Monte Mac · 05-03-2012, 09:38 AM

I agree with turning off the systems and see if it still occurs or not. I am a manual trans fan myself so therefore I self manage the torque myself

ffrcobra_65 · 05-03-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Monte Mac

I agree with turning off the systems and see if it still occurs or not. I am a manual trans fan myself so therefore I self manage the torque myself

You saying the power nannies are not on manual cars? Doubt it.

closs2sx · 05-03-2012, 09:56 AM

i think hes stating since he perfers manual transmision he prefers leaving the nannies off too

Kluch · 05-03-2012, 07:35 PM

Same problem on an auto V. Turn off stabilitrak completely as mentioned above. Problem will go away. There is traction loss at the change of gear and the power is cut- even in competitive mode. Keeping the MAF sensor clean also minimizes this.

Monte Mac · 05-03-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

You saying the power nannies are not on manual cars? Doubt it.

Not at all, just less torque management. Automatics are constantly adjusting the torque request from the engine (primarily at shifts) where as a manual trans has none of this during a shift (I like being in control of the shift) the traction control is pretty much all that manages the torque request (or decrease) based on wheel slip. I could be wrong but that's my understanding of the system.

And yes I like to have the "nannies off" from time to time but for everyday driving I keep it safe.

05-02-2012, 03:41 PM	#1
2011 SS Drives: 2011 SS M6, LT's, CAI, SLP LM II's. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ok Posts: 196	ZL1 problem! A friend of mine has an ZL1, he just hit break in, shortly before break in I'm assuming 1300 miles or so he gets this loss of power almost like a slip but its not the tranny slipping. If he starts in first and accelerates to 20mph it wont do it but it does it in second and third, no problems at WOT but it is at 20mph every time, its the wierdest problem I cant figure it out. Suggestions? Solutions? Is this normal?

05-02-2012, 04:32 PM	#5
xx_ED_xx Drives: 04 Silverado Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Floriduh! Posts: 1,113	Called torque management... __________________

05-02-2012, 05:44 PM	#7
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,985	Turn off all traction/torque managment systems. I the tires break grip and the car runs fine it is probabaly the car cutting the power. If the symptoms continue with all systems off then it is something actually causing the power loss. __________________ 2016 2SS 2020 super duty on 37's

05-02-2012, 07:09 PM	#9
JMAN311 Drives: 2013 F-150 Limited Join Date: May 2008 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 2,191	Watch the Magnetic Ride Control & Performance Traction Management Video that is sticky'd up top in the ZL1 Owner Welcome Videos thread. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220554 "Push and holding the traction control button for 5sec will turn off ALL PTM modes. Giving you full control of your ZL1." hognutz is right, this is the best way to confirm if the car is cutting power due to low traction, or if there is a larger issue. __________________ There just might be a 2016 Camaro or Corvette in my future... _____________________________________________ Previous Chevy's 2013 Camaro ZL1 A6\|SIM 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS\|M6\|CGM Exterior\|Gray Int 2000 Camaro SS\|M6\|SLP headers\|SLP center mounted quad exhaust\|Magnaflow muffler\|Hypertech programmed 2001 Corvette\|M6\|LG Motorsports Headers\|Corsa Touring Cat-back\|Magnaflow X Pipe\|Hurst short-throw\|Dyno tuned

05-03-2012, 09:56 AM	#12
closs2sx Drives: 1970 chevelle Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,438	i think hes stating since he perfers manual transmision he prefers leaving the nannies off too __________________ On Order 2018 ZL1 1LE Garnet Red Tint Coat Metallic MY Car 2015 Z06 Z07 Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic Dads Car 2013 ZL1 vin 963 Crystal Red Tint Coat/Black Wheels Exposed Carbon Fiber Insert 6 Spd Manual

05-02-2012, 03:51 PM	#2
Nightspore68 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL-1, Victory Red Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 378	Supercharger belt loose?

05-02-2012, 03:55 PM	#3
Monte Mac Drives: 13 1LE, 17 Sierra, 84 MonteSS, Join Date: May 2009 Location: Deaborn Heights, MI Posts: 454 View My Garage	So he's shifting into 2nd gear before 20 mph??

05-02-2012, 04:24 PM	#4
2011 SS Drives: 2011 SS M6, LT's, CAI, SLP LM II's. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ok Posts: 196	If the belt was loose it would slip off at wot this doesn't occur at wot good guess though thank you. Its an auto it shifts into second right before twenty I believe then has that hesitation at 20 mph on the dot. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

05-03-2012, 09:38 AM	#10
Monte Mac Drives: 13 1LE, 17 Sierra, 84 MonteSS, Join Date: May 2009 Location: Deaborn Heights, MI Posts: 454 View My Garage	I agree with turning off the systems and see if it still occurs or not. I am a manual trans fan myself so therefore I self manage the torque myself

05-03-2012, 07:35 PM	#13
Kluch Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: LSD Posts: 159	Same problem on an auto V. Turn off stabilitrak completely as mentioned above. Problem will go away. There is traction loss at the change of gear and the power is cut- even in competitive mode. Keeping the MAF sensor clean also minimizes this.