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palmdog · 06-09-2012, 12:57 AM

Took off weekend to get my car back on the road... Don't want to drop the rear end, exhaust, and tank to change out the fuel pump...... Don't trust anyone else to touch ole girl.... I am going to sleep on this thought of cutting a hole in the floor to get at the fuel pump... So! any hecklers out there want to weigh in on a guy who works seven days a week wanting to take a short cut.... Fire Away..... Like I said, gunna sleep on this decision....

kjkjr27 · 06-09-2012, 01:00 AM

I guess just ask yourself if you can live with yourself knowing there is a giant hole in your car once you are done. Plus if you do go this route I hope you know exactly where to cut cause it would really blow if you cut at the wrong area and had to do it all over again.

heRS · 06-09-2012, 01:11 AM

Is it not covered under warranty? I think I'd let someone else do that one if it means cutting a hole.
Now, I have to question the motives of whoever designed this - as it seems like a huge amount of work to go to for something that will surely fail at some point. GM trying to pad future mechanical work in their shops?

derklug · 06-09-2012, 01:15 AM

We used to do this at the dealership to all wheel drive Tempos. Realistically it doesn't harm the car at all, just make sure you know where to cut and what is below. We used to drill a hole with a 3/4" hole saw and then use a nibbler to cut out the panel

Nessal · 06-09-2012, 01:24 AM

Even my POS VW had a cut out for the fuel pump. What gives?

palmdog · 06-09-2012, 01:24 AM

Due to the upgrades in the motor.... I have all but voided my warranty.. That said, I have come to the decision that I will have this car for some time.... I guess I am just looking for some motivation from someone who has done this that all will go well... We learn from our mistakes and I can only hope that a wire or fuel line under the floor doesn't come in contact with my metal router bit... If so, check back I will have one heck of a story to tell....

two_wheel_mayhem · 06-09-2012, 01:27 AM

Don't be a hack.

The only advice I can give.

palmdog · 06-09-2012, 01:41 AM

Thats what I was hoping for..... someone to motivate me..... Would that include when I Drop this piece of crap IRS for a straight axle and a four link setup?

Fiveg56 · 06-09-2012, 01:42 AM

no way dude...don't do it

palmdog · 06-09-2012, 01:53 AM

Surely there is someone out there that has thought of making a buck and coming up with a templet and a procedure for cutting a simple hole with a nice looking access panel thats sealed ... well if there are no takers I will step up and be the guinny pig.....

two_wheel_mayhem · 06-09-2012, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by palmdog

Thats what I was hoping for..... someone to motivate me..... Would that include when I Drop this piece of crap IRS for a straight axle and a four link setup?

I'm a mechanic and Ill spend three times as long to do something to my own car or bike if needed, so it appears to have never been worked on.

If all you want to do is drag race, go with the straight axle for sure. The IRS cant handle traction.

That's another sore spot about this site, 3 years ago I told people here they would break half shafts when they get serious about 60 foot times without traction control activated. As we all know, traction control limits power by controlling wheel spin sensed by the ABS sensors.

They laughed me out of town, posting their You tube links of one guy that ran 11s without failure one time. Well what happened next? Multiple threads about half shafts breaking.

Jason@JacFab · 06-09-2012, 02:04 AM

I've heard of lots of people cutting a hole in the trunk of 4th gens... I'm not sure exactly how much needs to be removed but if it entails a day or two of cussing and swearing just to get to the pump... I'd cut the hole... Just makes it easier to change in the future. If you do, please do post measurements

coloeb · 06-09-2012, 02:09 AM

Have you thought about a remote mounted fuel pump? And perhaps taking the time to get the old one out correctly? Its your ride man , and you seem to have given this a lot of thought, Just trying to bring up options, Good luck in what ever you decide.

nukemustang · 06-09-2012, 02:12 AM

I own an avalanche and it is pretty common for folks to cut an access panel under the rear seats to replace the fuel pump. Several people made detailed descriptions of where to cut and ways to easily reattach the removed section of floor. It would be hard decision whether to do it to my 2011 SS but pretty easy one my 2004 avy.

Good luck!

06-09-2012, 12:57 AM	#1
palmdog Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: chesapeake Va. Posts: 49 View My Garage	Cutting a hole for the new fuel pump! Took off weekend to get my car back on the road... Don't want to drop the rear end, exhaust, and tank to change out the fuel pump...... Don't trust anyone else to touch ole girl.... I am going to sleep on this thought of cutting a hole in the floor to get at the fuel pump... So! any hecklers out there want to weigh in on a guy who works seven days a week wanting to take a short cut.... Fire Away..... Like I said, gunna sleep on this decision.... Last edited by palmdog; 06-09-2012 at 06:40 PM.

06-09-2012, 01:00 AM	#2
kjkjr27 COTW 9/16/13 Drives: 2011 2LT/RS Camaro IOM Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Syracuse Posts: 10,089	I guess just ask yourself if you can live with yourself knowing there is a giant hole in your car once you are done. Plus if you do go this route I hope you know exactly where to cut cause it would really blow if you cut at the wrong area and had to do it all over again. __________________ Twitch Youtube

06-09-2012, 01:11 AM	#3
heRS Raised by Wolves Drives: IBM 2010 2LT RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 5,981 View My Garage	Is it not covered under warranty? I think I'd let someone else do that one if it means cutting a hole. Now, I have to question the motives of whoever designed this - as it seems like a huge amount of work to go to for something that will surely fail at some point. GM trying to pad future mechanical work in their shops? __________________ Tori click the sig pic to view my build thread

06-09-2012, 01:15 AM	#4
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	We used to do this at the dealership to all wheel drive Tempos. Realistically it doesn't harm the car at all, just make sure you know where to cut and what is below. We used to drill a hole with a 3/4" hole saw and then use a nibbler to cut out the panel __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

06-09-2012, 01:24 AM	#6
palmdog Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: chesapeake Va. Posts: 49 View My Garage	upgrade in fuel pump Due to the upgrades in the motor.... I have all but voided my warranty.. That said, I have come to the decision that I will have this car for some time.... I guess I am just looking for some motivation from someone who has done this that all will go well... We learn from our mistakes and I can only hope that a wire or fuel line under the floor doesn't come in contact with my metal router bit... If so, check back I will have one heck of a story to tell....

06-09-2012, 01:24 AM	#5
Nessal Drives: Exige, Miata, Ghia Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 2,309	Even my POS VW had a cut out for the fuel pump. What gives?

06-09-2012, 01:27 AM	#7
two_wheel_mayhem Would rather be riding Drives: No car no more Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,750	Don't be a hack. The only advice I can give.

06-09-2012, 01:41 AM	#8
palmdog Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: chesapeake Va. Posts: 49 View My Garage	Thats what I was hoping for..... someone to motivate me..... Would that include when I Drop this piece of crap IRS for a straight axle and a four link setup? Last edited by palmdog; 06-09-2012 at 01:43 AM. Reason: adding stuff

06-09-2012, 01:42 AM	#9
Fiveg56 Drives: - Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MN Posts: 1,654 View My Garage	no way dude...don't do it

06-09-2012, 01:53 AM	#10
palmdog Drives: 2010 camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: chesapeake Va. Posts: 49 View My Garage	Surely there is someone out there that has thought of making a buck and coming up with a templet and a procedure for cutting a simple hole with a nice looking access panel thats sealed ... well if there are no takers I will step up and be the guinny pig.....

06-09-2012, 02:04 AM	#12
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,685 View My Garage	I've heard of lots of people cutting a hole in the trunk of 4th gens... I'm not sure exactly how much needs to be removed but if it entails a day or two of cussing and swearing just to get to the pump... I'd cut the hole... Just makes it easier to change in the future. If you do, please do post measurements Last edited by Jason@JacFab; 06-09-2012 at 02:24 AM.

06-09-2012, 02:09 AM	#13
coloeb Drives: 2012 2LT/RS 6L50 automatic TF-3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Natchez, Ms. Posts: 104 View My Garage	Have you thought about a remote mounted fuel pump? And perhaps taking the time to get the old one out correctly? Its your ride man , and you seem to have given this a lot of thought, Just trying to bring up options, Good luck in what ever you decide. __________________ Its better to burn out , than to fade away.

06-09-2012, 02:12 AM	#14
nukemustang Drives: 2017 Raptor, 2017 SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 277	I own an avalanche and it is pretty common for folks to cut an access panel under the rear seats to replace the fuel pump. Several people made detailed descriptions of where to cut and ways to easily reattach the removed section of floor. It would be hard decision whether to do it to my 2011 SS but pretty easy one my 2004 avy. Good luck! __________________ Saving for: 2019 ZL1 convertible..... SOLD:2016 2SS Red Hot Convertible with black metallic rally stripes SOLD:2011 Silver Ice Metallic 1SS/RS Convertible. Completed modifications: installed factory HUD, deleted AFM/DOD, Dynatech LT coated headers with high flow cats, Solo Cat back exhaust, CAI inc. intake, Vmax ported TB, SIM quarter flares/splash guards, steering wheel radio controls, PDIM iPod interface in center console, RX catch can, JRE cold air scoop, windshield washer bottle relocation.