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SSpade22 · 07-04-2012, 10:34 AM

So heres the deal,

Right now my car is in the shop having the L99 removed and being changed with a 418 LS3, with a 4in Stroke and 9.5 compression. Putting on a whipple 2.9L supercharger with RotoFab intake. Also taking out the 6 speed and putting in a much stronger 4 speed. When all is said and done my shop tells me it will be making close to 800RWHP.

I know the ZR1 is more aerodynamic, but in a 1/4mile do you think it’s possible for my bulky SS to beat the super sporty ZR1?

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Thank you all so much for the info…..
So what I gather is that I have the power to outdo a ZR1, but if I can’t hook up from a dig all that power is useless. Next question…..
Does anyone have any suggestion for a suspension upgrade that will help me grab the road, OCCASIONALLY I will be taking it to the ZMAX to run the ¼ mile.
With that in mind can anyone point me in the direction of what company or kits I should be looking at for suspension?
Right now all I have is a decent set of tires on the rear. (315 nitto Invo)

black79ta · 07-04-2012, 10:41 AM

800@ whls is about 900 @ crank so I wild say yes easily. Zr1 are 638 @ crank right? Sounds like a fun ride . What brand 4 spd are you using?

Apex Motorsports · 07-04-2012, 10:43 AM

A stock ZR1 can run a low 11 1/4 mile. Assuming you have a suspension package that can plant the power you will be making you should have no problem doing that.

SSpade22 · 07-04-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by black79ta

What brand 4 spd are you using?

Im using a 4L80e.... my 6 speed would shatter wiht 800rwhp

6point2 · 07-04-2012, 10:47 AM

I don't think you will have any problems against a stock ZR1.

Tires are going to be the main factor however. With all that power I would assume you are going to be running some good tires on smaller rims right?

SSpade22 · 07-04-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

Assuming you have a suspension package that can plant the power you will be making you should have no problem doing that.

I havent done any suspension work yet, but i have forged lightweight rims wiht a NItto Invo 315 on the back..... dunno how much that will help though..... better then the stock 275 Prelli im sure.

SlingShot · 07-04-2012, 11:06 AM

Don't forget to put a cage in it, you will probably get the ban hammer at most tracks.

Apex Motorsports · 07-04-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SSpade22

I havent done any suspension work yet, but i have forged lightweight rims wiht a NItto Invo 315 on the back..... dunno how much that will help though..... better then the stock 275 Prelli im sure.

You should start looking into it. With that much power you are going to have a lot of wheel hop and traction issues if you do not beef up your rear arms and bushings.

SGOS252382 · 07-04-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SSpade22

I havent done any suspension work yet, but i have forged lightweight rims wiht a NItto Invo 315 on the back..... dunno how much that will help though..... better then the stock 275 Prelli im sure.

If you're planning on racing (drag racing) with Invos at your power level, you've going to have issues.

To hook up properly with that much RWHP and to run the times necessary to beat a ZR1, I would strongly suggest some drag radials on race day.

two_wheel_mayhem · 07-04-2012, 12:28 PM

You need extensive chassis modifications to maximize the potential of 800HP.

What stall speed are you trying to get with the convertor?

SC2150 · 07-04-2012, 12:31 PM

Also remember,

every 100# is a tenth in the 1/4 mile.....weight is critical.

pouncer72 · 07-04-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

A stock ZR1 can run a low 10 1/4 mile @ 135+mph.

Fixed

BullF-16 · 07-04-2012, 05:51 PM

ZR1 at 638 crank hp is about 5.1 lbs per hp

You at 800rwhp or 920 crank hp are at 4.35 lbs per hp

So discounting the aero advantabe of the ZR1, you have the power, but you need to put it to the ground or you're wasting your time. Time for suspension upgrades and wheel/tire combo that will help you hook up. Not to mention the entire drive line minus the 4l80 of course.

You will need low 10s against a driver with any savvy.

kevin1106 · 07-04-2012, 06:06 PM

You gonna need the DSS 9" rear for sure. Plus some nitto NT05R TIres. Invo's are useless at that power. I have 628rwhp and 1st gear is useless.

07-04-2012, 10:34 AM	#1
SSpade22 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (Twin Turno 418) Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 208	Faster than a corvette ZR1? So heres the deal, Right now my car is in the shop having the L99 removed and being changed with a 418 LS3, with a 4in Stroke and 9.5 compression. Putting on a whipple 2.9L supercharger with RotoFab intake. Also taking out the 6 speed and putting in a much stronger 4 speed. When all is said and done my shop tells me it will be making close to 800RWHP. I know the ZR1 is more aerodynamic, but in a 1/4mile do you think it’s possible for my bulky SS to beat the super sporty ZR1? ------------------------------------ Thank you all so much for the info….. So what I gather is that I have the power to outdo a ZR1, but if I can’t hook up from a dig all that power is useless. Next question….. Does anyone have any suggestion for a suspension upgrade that will help me grab the road, OCCASIONALLY I will be taking it to the ZMAX to run the ¼ mile. With that in mind can anyone point me in the direction of what company or kits I should be looking at for suspension? Right now all I have is a decent set of tires on the rear. (315 nitto Invo) __________________ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsPUas9w7owlCJZffwvl-4Q Engine Modifications: TSP 418 w/ 4 in. Stroke Custom cam Power-gilde transmision LSA WCCH Ported Heads 1400hp Axle Shafts DSS FORE Dual pump FIC 2000cc Injectors Twin Garrett 53s Last edited by SSpade22; 07-05-2012 at 11:41 AM.

07-04-2012, 10:41 AM	#2
black79ta Drives: 79 transam with 582cid dart motor Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: missouri Posts: 529 View My Garage	800@ whls is about 900 @ crank so I wild say yes easily. Zr1 are 638 @ crank right? Sounds like a fun ride . What brand 4 spd are you using? __________________ 2010 Camaro (inferno orange, 2SS, RS and such) cat backs, catch can, CAI on the way 79 Transam, 582 cid dart motor 779hp 315's out back 40spline gdaxles tko tranny

07-04-2012, 10:47 AM	#5
6point2 Drives: camaro SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Grand Junction CO Posts: 32	I don't think you will have any problems against a stock ZR1. Tires are going to be the main factor however. With all that power I would assume you are going to be running some good tires on smaller rims right? __________________

07-04-2012, 11:06 AM	#7
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	Don't forget to put a cage in it, you will probably get the ban hammer at most tracks. __________________

07-04-2012, 05:51 PM	#13
BullF-16 USAF retired! Thank God! Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,799	ZR1 at 638 crank hp is about 5.1 lbs per hp You at 800rwhp or 920 crank hp are at 4.35 lbs per hp So discounting the aero advantabe of the ZR1, you have the power, but you need to put it to the ground or you're wasting your time. Time for suspension upgrades and wheel/tire combo that will help you hook up. Not to mention the entire drive line minus the 4l80 of course. You will need low 10s against a driver with any savvy. __________________ HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads Last edited by BullF-16; 07-04-2012 at 07:16 PM.

07-04-2012, 10:43 AM	#3
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,165	A stock ZR1 can run a low 11 1/4 mile. Assuming you have a suspension package that can plant the power you will be making you should have no problem doing that.

07-04-2012, 12:28 PM	#10
two_wheel_mayhem Would rather be riding Drives: No car no more Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,750	You need extensive chassis modifications to maximize the potential of 800HP. What stall speed are you trying to get with the convertor?

07-04-2012, 12:31 PM	#11
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Also remember, every 100# is a tenth in the 1/4 mile.....weight is critical.

07-04-2012, 06:06 PM	#14
kevin1106 Drives: 2015 ZO6 3LZ Stage 2 A8 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: La plata MD Posts: 2,299 View My Garage	You gonna need the DSS 9" rear for sure. Plus some nitto NT05R TIres. Invo's are useless at that power. I have 628rwhp and 1st gear is useless.