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FatalSports · 07-21-2012, 11:35 AM

I'm in the middle of my Subframe Bushing Insert install and ran into a problem....I have everything off and had the new bushings in, but now my subframe bolts aren't lining back up.

How do I move the sunbframe to get everything lined up?

The car is up on ramps and I don't have a lot of clearance. I tried using my long thick flat head to help move things, but it just won't budge. I have a pry bar but with the limited clearance I can't really use it.

I'm off by about 1/2inch.

If I can't figure out how to do it, Will it be ok to drive the car with the subframe not bolted in 1-2 miles to the nearby auto shop?

jeffny09 · 07-21-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FatalSports

I'm in the middle of my Subframe Bushing Insert install and ran into a problem....I have everything off and had the new bushings in, but now my subframe bolts aren't lining back up.

How do I move the sunbframe to get everything lined up?

The car is up on ramps and I don't have a lot of clearance. I tried using my long thick flat head to help move things, but it just won't budge. I have a pry bar but with the limited clearance I can't really use it.

I'm off by about 1/2inch.

If I can't figure out how to do it, Will it be ok to drive the car with the subframe not bolted in 1-2 miles to the nearby auto shop?

I wouldnt sri e it like that at all...and i dont ubderstand..how is it not lining up? The tabs go into the bushings and u screw thw bolt in!

FatalSports · 07-21-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffny09

I wouldnt sri e it like that at all...and i dont ubderstand..how is it not lining up? The tabs go into the bushings and u screw thw bolt in!

The rear tabs that go into the bushing is about 1/2nch off, so it doesn't line up. If you try jacking up the subframe...the tab will sit right on the edge of the insert...so it's about 1/2 off from seating into the insert.

jeffny09 · 07-21-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FatalSports

The rear tabs that go into the bushing is about 1/2nch off, so it doesn't line up. If you try jacking up the subframe...the tab will sit right on the edge of the insert...so it's about 1/2 off from seating into the insert.

Hmm thats weird....wish i could help...but id have to be there...i had used 3 jacks to get this thing up and lined up one of the rear bushingss first...

jeffny09 · 07-21-2012, 12:17 PM

Anyluck? Are the front ones lining up?

justa25thTA · 07-21-2012, 12:24 PM

I had the same problem, just keep fiddling with it and you will get it. I was ready to cuss and try stupid stuff, but took a break and was finally able to get it.

MagnumForceGB · 07-21-2012, 12:30 PM

Lower the subframe by putting a jack under the diff and then slowly go down. Once down, you can push the subframe forward to line it up. Once line up, raise it up slowly.

How do you have the subframe bushing out with the car on ramps? I just jacked the rear up and removed the tires, then lowered the subframe.

jeffny09 · 07-21-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

Lower the subframe by putting a jack under the diff and then slowly go down. Once down, you can push the subframe forward to line it up. Once line up, raise it up slowly.

How do you have the subframe bushing out with the car on ramps? I just jacked the rear up and removed the tires, then lowered the subframe.

I think thats what he meant

FatalSports · 07-21-2012, 01:08 PM

That was my issue...I talked to Pete.

With the car on ramps, you can't move the subframe. I don't have a set of jackstands, so I put the car on ramps and lowered the subframe by taking out the bolts.

But if the car on the ground/ramps, you can't move the subframe. The wheels need to be off the ground floating. So, I'm on my way to get a set of jack stands to keep the wheels in the air then will get back under there and get that subframe lined back up.

jeffny09 · 07-21-2012, 04:11 PM

Well whats the verdict...

partymn · 07-21-2012, 04:42 PM

I dont understand. Why would you try to do anything on your suspension without the tires off the ground and the car on Jack stands? Sounds pretty dangerous to me.

FatalSports · 07-21-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by partymn

I dont understand. Why would you try to do anything on your suspension without the tires off the ground and the car on Jack stands? Sounds pretty dangerous to me.

The car was on ramps with my jack on the diff

FatalSports · 07-21-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffny09

Well whats the verdict...

Had to wait a few hours for my wife to return with the jack stands

But once she did, I was done within minutes!

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 07-21-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FatalSports

Had to wait a few hours for my wife to return with the jack stands

But once she did, I was done within minutes!

07-21-2012, 11:35 AM	#1
FatalSports Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: MD Posts: 117	Need help ASAP....Subframe Insert Install I'm in the middle of my Subframe Bushing Insert install and ran into a problem....I have everything off and had the new bushings in, but now my subframe bolts aren't lining back up. How do I move the sunbframe to get everything lined up? The car is up on ramps and I don't have a lot of clearance. I tried using my long thick flat head to help move things, but it just won't budge. I have a pry bar but with the limited clearance I can't really use it. I'm off by about 1/2inch. If I can't figure out how to do it, Will it be ok to drive the car with the subframe not bolted in 1-2 miles to the nearby auto shop?

07-21-2012, 12:17 PM	#5
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07-21-2012, 12:24 PM	#6
justa25thTA Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,630	I had the same problem, just keep fiddling with it and you will get it. I was ready to cuss and try stupid stuff, but took a break and was finally able to get it. __________________ Yeah, I'll get around to it...

07-21-2012, 12:30 PM	#7
MagnumForceGB Drives: Fastest 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newcastle, OK Posts: 3,571 View My Garage	Lower the subframe by putting a jack under the diff and then slowly go down. Once down, you can push the subframe forward to line it up. Once line up, raise it up slowly. How do you have the subframe bushing out with the car on ramps? I just jacked the rear up and removed the tires, then lowered the subframe. __________________ Camaro V6 = 11.268 @ 120.11

07-21-2012, 04:11 PM	#10
jeffny09 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new york Posts: 5,618	Well whats the verdict... __________________ top 10 reason why real men drive stick. 10. A manual transmission is the ultimate in control 9. You can use automotive jargon and not sound like a total tool 8. You can't spell "manual" without "man" 7. Manual transmissions prove you can do more than one thing at a time 6. You can't drift in an auto 5. You can't pull fancy moves in an automatic 4. You get better fuel economy with a stick 3. You’ll never look like a chump if you can drive stick 2. Manual transmission cars are faster 1. Women like a guy who is good with his hands.

07-21-2012, 01:08 PM	#9
FatalSports Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: MD Posts: 117	That was my issue...I talked to Pete. With the car on ramps, you can't move the subframe. I don't have a set of jackstands, so I put the car on ramps and lowered the subframe by taking out the bolts. But if the car on the ground/ramps, you can't move the subframe. The wheels need to be off the ground floating. So, I'm on my way to get a set of jack stands to keep the wheels in the air then will get back under there and get that subframe lined back up.

07-21-2012, 04:42 PM	#11
partymn Drives: 2014 1ss 1LE Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Goose Creek, SC Posts: 878 View My Garage	I dont understand. Why would you try to do anything on your suspension without the tires off the ground and the car on Jack stands? Sounds pretty dangerous to me. __________________ 2014 1SS 1LE, bone stock for now.