ZL1 vs. Supercharged Challenger 392 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

awfarley · 08-15-2012, 06:18 PM

I'm asking this out of complete curiosity.
Would the ZL1 keep up in a straight-line?
Any of the car guys on here know what a supercharged 392 can put down in the Challenger?

I know the ZL1 is a track monster so I'm really wondering about drag style racing here.

MikeSVX · 08-15-2012, 06:49 PM

I'm guessing a 392 with 8 or 9 pounds of boost is going to be pushing the 600hp mark. So if the Challenger driver is decent and can get it all to the ground he will should take it.
I don't know anyone with a boosted hemi, I'm just rough guessing it. The SS's that I know that are running those boost numbers are in the 570 to 580 range so I figure the 392 should be a little higher.

red70tvhs · 08-15-2012, 07:32 PM

Hemis are hard to boost, and its stupid expensive. Im doubting many of the 392 crowd are boosting yet, short of people with more money than what they know to do with lol. Im guessing they would make awesome power and be a straight line monster if they could get it to the ground. I'd bet on the Hemi sad to say. I'd probably bet on a blown SS over a zl1 in a straight line also in all honesty! Interesting question, let the bench racing begin!!! lol

Coyotekiller · 08-15-2012, 07:38 PM

Have they even broke the ECU coding yet? Last I heard they couldn't crack it...

motorhead · 08-15-2012, 08:12 PM

Considering that many of them bone stock are running not to far behind many of the ZL1s that posted stock times, I would say a boosted 392 would dust a stock ZL1. Fastest stock 392 posted to date put down a 12.29. Many ZL1s have posted around that and some slower.

motorhead · 08-15-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coyotekiller

Have they even broke the ECU coding yet? Last I heard they couldn't crack it...

They haven't but there is ways around it. There are more boosted 392's than you think. B&G sells an upgraded ECU for 392's with bolt-ins such as long tubes CAI's and exhaust. That alone is dropping a half second off of an other wise stock 392. That alone could get a ZL1 beat with certain people behind the wheel

LimaCharlie · 08-15-2012, 10:58 PM

A blown 392 would beat a stock ZL1......pretty easily too.

archtaan · 08-15-2012, 11:03 PM

A supercharged 392 would destroy a ZL1 in a straight line only. There aren't any out there so you have nothing to worry about.

Supercharged and Turbo 6.1 Cars are running 9's and 10's, that is what you have to worry about.

awfarley · 08-16-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coyotekiller

Have they even broke the ECU coding yet? Last I heard they couldn't crack it...

Like the other guy said all I have seen is where people are replacing them with some expensive kit.

motorhead · 08-16-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by archtaan

A supercharged 392 would destroy a ZL1 in a straight line only. There aren't any out there so you have nothing to worry about.

Supercharged and Turbo 6.1 Cars are running 9's and 10's, that is what you have to worry about.

Yes are a few. Not many, but they do exist. check out the 392 fast list. They also run in the mid 11's.

The 392 has a nice long flat torque curve which helps to keep it moving.

awfarley · 08-16-2012, 11:32 AM

Sadly the reason I'm asking is because the next car I'm getting is going to be a V8. I'm undecided against the SS, ZL1, 392, and a GT500. The price ranges are within about $10k and I want ever really see a road course. There is Barbers Motorsports Park around here and that is it.

I know I could get an SS and for much less make it faster than the ZL1 and I want this car to be a weekend toy. I'll be keeping my V6 Camaro.

I'm not a fanboy of any brand and I like the style of each in its own respect.

MikeSVX · 08-16-2012, 11:45 AM

For what your saying you want to do, I would go with the SS and use the extra cash to build a supercharged LS7 to drop in it. You could even go N/A LS7 if you want. The dealer, in Vegas, I bought my SS from had a built N/A LS7 in his Z06 that was making just over 700hp. He didn't even bother playing with dodges and mustangs. I was gunning down Lambos and Ferrari's with it.

You coulds also build and boost the LS3 to get those numbers too. If your not going to corner the car, you don't need the setup you get in the ZL1, and you can build the SS, including a drag suspension setup for what the Cobra will cost you.

motorhead · 08-16-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by awfarley

Sadly the reason I'm asking is because the next car I'm getting is going to be a V8. I'm undecided against the SS, ZL1, 392, and a GT500. The price ranges are within about $10k and I want ever really see a road course. There is Barbers Motorsports Park around here and that is it.

I know I could get an SS and for much less make it faster than the ZL1 and I want this car to be a weekend toy. I'll be keeping my V6 Camaro.

I'm not a fanboy of any brand and I like the style of each in its own respect.

If money is no object and you can get a hold of one, I would go with the GT500. I just don't see where you think there is only a 10 grand difference between that and an SS camaro though. It's more like a 20 grand difference.
You can get a great deal on a 392 right now and it will smoke an SS and some stock ZL1's if you can drive and he can't. Put a B&G ECU in and you'll have a very nice running car that doesn't brake the bank.

awfarley · 08-16-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

If money is no object and you can get a hold of one, I would go with the GT500. I just don't see where you think there is only a 10 grand difference between that and an SS camaro though. It's more like a 20 grand difference.
You can get a great deal on a 392 right now and it will smoke an SS and some stock ZL1's if you can drive and he can't. Put a B&G ECU in and you'll have a very nice running car that doesn't brake the bank.

Yeah my bad, I was basing that loosely off the loaded 2SS/RS with sunroof and all. Still not that close though lol

08-15-2012, 06:18 PM	#1
awfarley Drives: 2011 5.7L Tundra Double-Cab X-SP Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2,031	ZL1 vs. Supercharged Challenger 392 I'm asking this out of complete curiosity. Would the ZL1 keep up in a straight-line? Any of the car guys on here know what a supercharged 392 can put down in the Challenger? I know the ZL1 is a track monster so I'm really wondering about drag style racing here.

08-15-2012, 10:58 PM	#7
LimaCharlie Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS - 2004 Silverado Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,989	A blown 392 would beat a stock ZL1......pretty easily too. __________________ 2011 Summit White Camaro 1SS/RS -6.2 LS3, TR6060, 3.45, G80 2004 Black Silverado 1500 2WD Regular Cab, Short Bed -5.3 LM7, 4L60E, 3.42, G80 2014 White Caprice PPV -6.0 L77, 6L80E, 2.92, G80

08-15-2012, 06:49 PM	#2
MikeSVX The magic smoke genie.... Drives: Jewels (2010 RJT 1SS) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 2,294	I'm guessing a 392 with 8 or 9 pounds of boost is going to be pushing the 600hp mark. So if the Challenger driver is decent and can get it all to the ground he will should take it. I don't know anyone with a boosted hemi, I'm just rough guessing it. The SS's that I know that are running those boost numbers are in the 570 to 580 range so I figure the 392 should be a little higher.

08-15-2012, 07:32 PM	#3
red70tvhs Red Drives: 2018 Mosaic Black 2ss M6 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest Virginia Posts: 632	Hemis are hard to boost, and its stupid expensive. Im doubting many of the 392 crowd are boosting yet, short of people with more money than what they know to do with lol. Im guessing they would make awesome power and be a straight line monster if they could get it to the ground. I'd bet on the Hemi sad to say. I'd probably bet on a blown SS over a zl1 in a straight line also in all honesty! Interesting question, let the bench racing begin!!! lol

08-15-2012, 07:38 PM	#4
Coyotekiller Account Suspended Drives: 2012 AGM 2SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Beaufort, NC Posts: 1,383	Have they even broke the ECU coding yet? Last I heard they couldn't crack it...

08-15-2012, 08:12 PM	#5
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	Considering that many of them bone stock are running not to far behind many of the ZL1s that posted stock times, I would say a boosted 392 would dust a stock ZL1. Fastest stock 392 posted to date put down a 12.29. Many ZL1s have posted around that and some slower.

08-15-2012, 11:03 PM	#8
archtaan Drives: car Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 305	A supercharged 392 would destroy a ZL1 in a straight line only. There aren't any out there so you have nothing to worry about. Supercharged and Turbo 6.1 Cars are running 9's and 10's, that is what you have to worry about.

08-16-2012, 11:32 AM	#11
awfarley Drives: 2011 5.7L Tundra Double-Cab X-SP Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2,031	Sadly the reason I'm asking is because the next car I'm getting is going to be a V8. I'm undecided against the SS, ZL1, 392, and a GT500. The price ranges are within about $10k and I want ever really see a road course. There is Barbers Motorsports Park around here and that is it. I know I could get an SS and for much less make it faster than the ZL1 and I want this car to be a weekend toy. I'll be keeping my V6 Camaro. I'm not a fanboy of any brand and I like the style of each in its own respect.

08-16-2012, 11:45 AM	#12
MikeSVX The magic smoke genie.... Drives: Jewels (2010 RJT 1SS) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 2,294	For what your saying you want to do, I would go with the SS and use the extra cash to build a supercharged LS7 to drop in it. You could even go N/A LS7 if you want. The dealer, in Vegas, I bought my SS from had a built N/A LS7 in his Z06 that was making just over 700hp. He didn't even bother playing with dodges and mustangs. I was gunning down Lambos and Ferrari's with it. You coulds also build and boost the LS3 to get those numbers too. If your not going to corner the car, you don't need the setup you get in the ZL1, and you can build the SS, including a drag suspension setup for what the Cobra will cost you.