Rear Trailing Arm and the Rear Tie Rod comparo

[grocerygetter]

OK...Pfadt vs BMR...have at it. Tell me which one and why...
I'm leaned to BMR for price but Pfadt for lighter weight. The BMR's require you to add the expense of a couple of bushings though do they not? (that would bring the price difference closer)

[caverman]

Originally Posted by grocerygetter

The BMR's require you to add the expense of a couple of bushings though do they not? (that would bring the price difference closer)

Not required but you really should.


I initially went with Spohn trailing arms (over 2yrs ago) but I'm just now getting to the toe rods. I went with BMR toe rods for price of a quality item. I got my set for $99 from Jegs and that's pretty hard to beat. If I had it to do all over again I would've probably gone with BMR for both Trailing Arm and Toe Rod but I would've used Pedders bushings instead of BMR.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by grocerygetter

OK...Pfadt vs BMR...have at it. Tell me which one and why...
I'm leaned to BMR for price but Pfadt for lighter weight. The BMR's require you to add the expense of a couple of bushings though do they not? (that would bring the price difference closer)

It is really hard to beat our BMR trailing arms and toe rods as far as price, quality, and value go. We definitely recommend doing the outer trailing arm bushings (BK006) at the same time you do the trailing arms since the labor to install them overlaps with the trailing arms and they provide quite a bit of additional performance.

The additional weight of the BMR parts really isn't a big deal because it is minimal and having the extra weight on those parts is actually beneficial because it provides extra stability to the rear suspension.

Give me a call here at the shop and I will see what I can do on setting you up with a custom package which will also help out with the pricing.

[PfadtRacing]

When we design parts we really focus on what's important for each application. When you're building aftermarket control arms your main focus should be on strength of the arm, quality of the replacement bushings included in the kit, and removing as much weight when ever possible. Both our trailing and our tie rod kits meet all those criterion, they are lighter, stronger, and the included bushings are much less prone to deflection than the factory bushings are.

One thing to note is that all of our poly kits also include a low friction teflon lined sleeve, and graphite impregnated poly bushings with grease retaining notches in the bushing it's self. All of these add up to lower friction and less noise over the long haul.

We strongly disagree with the idea that extra weight in the suspension arms is actually a good thing. The lightest solution that is strong enough to hold up to the abuse of racing is what we design for across the board. Anything more is just making the suspension more inefficient.

We do offer a package that includes both the Trailing Arms and Tie Rods in one convenient package. It also is discounted from purchasing the arms separately.

Let me know if you have any questions! We're always here to help! We do have the parts in stock and ready to ship. You can get a hold of us at 1-888-972-2464 or me personally at jarrett@pfadtracing.com

[grocerygetter]

let's 'weigh in'...pfadt publishes their weight vs stock weights...what do the bmr's weigh?

...btw...thanks guys, a lot. This kind of thing is why I immediately narrowed it down to these two companies. Also, I'm weekend driving/drag racing focused here if that helps.

[driyac]

Originally Posted by grocerygetter

let's 'weigh in'...pfadt publishes their weight vs stock weights...what do the bmr's weigh?

...btw...thanks guys, a lot. This kind of thing is why I immediately narrowed it down to these two companies. Also, I'm weekend driving/drag racing focused here if that helps.

lets go with a lot more... But I will say those things aren't bending for shit.

They are as solid as solid comes.

[Downwithopp]

I should be getting a few large packages from BMR before this weekend and installing them Saturday. Ordered trailing arms, control arms, and toe rods from them on Friday evening. Hopefully will be running 1/4 this sunday to do a before and after comparison from stock to BMR. I can fill you in on how it goes if you are still undecided by then.

Most of my suspension is PFADT so far, and it has all been super high quality and very noticeable as far as performance goes.

I got on the phone with Kyle Monday morning and he helped me hash out exactly what I needed. The people are BMR are good times if customer service is important to you. Not to say PFADT is the opposite, but IMO quick and informative customer service is important when installing new parts. Also if you decide to go with BMR and your car is lowered you have to get their adjustable toe rod, and Kyle suggested getting a set of their bearings for the trailing arms.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by grocerygetter

let's 'weigh in'...pfadt publishes their weight vs stock weights...what do the bmr's weigh?

...btw...thanks guys, a lot. This kind of thing is why I immediately narrowed it down to these two companies. Also, I'm weekend driving/drag racing focused here if that helps.

The BMR trailing arms (TCA026) as a pair are 2.4lbs heavier than a pair of factory trailing arms.

Once we get all our stuff moved to our new facility I can get the weight difference between our BMR toe rods (TR002) and the factory toe rods. Our office is up and running at our new facility but everything else is at our old facility.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by Downwithopp

I should be getting a few large packages from BMR before this weekend and installing them Saturday. Ordered trailing arms, control arms, and toe rods from them on Friday evening. Hopefully will be running 1/4 this sunday to do a before and after comparison from stock to BMR. I can fill you in on how it goes if you are still undecided by then.

Most of my suspension is PFADT so far, and it has all been super high quality and very noticeable as far as performance goes.

I got on the phone with Kyle Monday morning and he helped me hash out exactly what I needed. The people are BMR are good times if customer service is important to you. Not to say PFADT is the opposite, but IMO quick and informative customer service is important when installing new parts. Also if you decide to go with BMR and your car is lowered you have to get their adjustable toe rod, and Kyle suggested getting a set of their bearings for the trailing arms.

I am glad we were able to help you out and get everything squared away for you. We are here to help people out whether they have our parts are not so if there is anyway that I/BMR Suspension can help anyone out don't hesitate to give us call.

[grocerygetter]

Went pfadt via apex just now. Thanks guys.

Both companies make great items in my opinion. I have used BMR, especially back on the 98-02 Camaros, and still use BMR on my 25.5 '98 Camaro. Been a best 1.27 60' on the bumper using BMR items throughout front & rear suspension, and our fabricated torque arm.

Pfadt has been in the C5/C6 Vette business for a long time now, and I am quite familiar with their Vette items. Including numerous 1.2x 60's in multiple cars and in 4DRush's mid 8-second Vette a best of 1.20 60' all with Pfadt drag items. I went with Pfadt for all of my suspension needs on our hunt last year to the 9-second E/T range with our stock bottom end car. Blair, Aaron, and the rest of the team are quite easy to get a hold of on race days for information, and advice via the phone while you are at the track. Went a best of 1.39 60' on street DOT tires, with the full Pfadt street suspension.

Like I said, you will be happy with either choice. We have a GREAT sale going on now with Pfadt items through tomorrow, including FREE 48 state shipping even on the large package items.

- Pfadt Street Coilovers (W/ Drag Springs), 6061 Subframe Bushings, Trailing Arms, Adj. Toe Rods, Poly Complete Bushing Set, Rear Drag Bar...

2011 Camaro SS, Stock Bottom End, Mickey Thompson 18" Street II Radials on C6Z Rims

[flht99b]

BMR

[Camper]

Just do like I do, Mix them!