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![]() Drives: '11 SW 1LT RS Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Granite Bay, CA
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New Trifecta Tune Please Explain!
I got this in an email today:
"Here is some more info on the new release- EZ Flash Update: OBD2 DTCs & Readiness Monitors Controls What’s changing? Effective 02/25/2013, all Trifecta tunes provided will have all emission control related Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) and OBD2 Readiness Monitors set to the original settings that were supplied with the vehicle from the factory. At the same time, EZ Flash version 1.6.0.0 will be released, which adds a new feature that allows end customers or dealers using EZ Flash to modify DTC and Monitor settings at their own discretion. Why are we making this change? We currently rely on a written statement from the end user (via the ordering process) that they indeed are only operating their vehicle off public highways, if they request us to modify emission control settings in the tuning we provide. We do not feel this process is ideal for several reasons (mainly that a large portion of our support efforts are to address these concerns for customers), so we’re adopting a process similar to others in the tuning industry in that we leave it up to the end user of our products to decide whether they want to modify the settings, and to what extent. Will I be affected by this change? All tune files produced on 02/25/2013 or later will have the factory DTC and Monitor settings in them. If your vehicle requires changes to the DTCs and/or Monitors, you will need to make the changes yourself using EZ Flash. How do I make these changes? The EZ Flash user guide located at the EZ Flash download page explains in detail how to make the changes. What else should I know about this? This feature (and prior to now, our tuning service as it pertains to DTC and Monitor settings) is provided as a tool/service to end-users that want to have their vehicle control systems configured in a way that aligns with the emission control device configuration of the vehicle, which may be different than the way the factory built the vehicle control system. Examples include pure race track cars, pure off-road (unlicensed) vehicles, and running powertrain swaps into vehicles that are not operated on a highway, ever (e.g. sand rails), or vehicles that are not even operated in roads at all (e.g. fan boats, power boats, aircraft or engines in stand-alone test-dyno situations). While we are not experts in environmental law nor are we licensed to give legal advice or guidance, it is believed that usage of this feature to intentionally disable emission control diagnostics for the purpose of obtaining a passing result at an emissions test station when emission control devices have otherwise been removed or disabled on a vehicle operated on public highway would be a blatant violation of emission control laws. We do not condone the usage of our products for this purpose, and we do not take responsibility for its use in this capacity." So can someone explain this to me like I am 15 years old? Is this really going to change anything? Why is this better? I just do not really understand what is changing and why. |
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Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008
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looking forward to this since I've been wondering same thing
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Stop writing "vert", ffs!
Drives: 2011 2LT Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Gambrills, MD
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![]() Drives: '11 SW 1LT RS Join Date: Aug 2012
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I read that yesterday. Still not real helpful. It sounds like now you can clear your own CEL code if you get headers. Also something where you can turn on and off emission control which would be nice if it could increase power or if it could help you pass smog.
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Drives: Supercharged LLT Join Date: Jul 2010
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Yeah it was kind of insightful but nothing I would need/care for.
Question though, do we need an updated tune if our tune is considered a "old" tune?
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I don't get it either. I have no idea what it's for or who would need it. All this tune stuff lately is getting awfully murky to me.
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![]() Drives: SIM Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: DC
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The tune is for people like me who have installed BBK headers but now get a Check engine light for codes. I get p0036,p0037,p0057 which all have to do with the oxygen sensors. I need to remove the check engine light so that I can use my automatic start since it won't work if you have a check engine light on.
Now I just need to figure out which box/boxes to uncheck, I tried unchecking the boxes with those 3 codes but they just come back.... |
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This update is about the EZflash software, and not about the tune itself. Bascially now when you get a tune from Trifecta, it will not automatically disable emissions codes for things like 02 sensors when running long tube headers. Now you must do this youself, from the options within the new EZFlash software.
It does not enable you to tweak your own tune, just enable or disable certain codes or things of that nature.
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Drives: 2012 Camaro Vert Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Palm Bay , FL
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Its simple. Before the default Tune had some checks turned off. They would also update the tune if you need others changed.
Now the the Ez-Flash gives you the options to do it yourself. Its an No brainier and anyone trying to make the update look bad has another agenda. Last edited by KalCorp; 02-27-2013 at 02:45 PM. |
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Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE, 2019 Camaro 2.0 Join Date: Sep 2011
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The idea behind this is that you no longer need to contact us to turn off CELs for headers or catless downpipes and things of that nature. This means you do not need to wait for anyone, you can do it yourself, whenever you want. We can collectively build settings files that we think work better for the community (we meaning all of us on this forum, users and vendors alike) and we can then share them for people to import.
This appears to be misunderstood as something that we are pawning off on you as the end user and that we are not interested in helping you with these things anymore. That is not the case. We will happily help you choose which DTCs need to be turned off, or if the community works together to build a settings file that works for most or all of you, I will happily host it for everyone to download and import. This last piece of info may not have been shared, but once you choose your settings, you'll need to reflash the car. If you have a tune that is working fine and doesn't need anything adjusted, you simply do nothing. You do not need to mess around with this unless you choose to. |
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![]() Drives: SIM Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: DC
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If anybody knows which monitor to disable to get rid of codes p0036 and p0057 please let me know. I'm having no luck so far figuring out which one to uncheck by trial and error
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Drives: 2012 Camaro Vert Join Date: Sep 2011
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I did that for P0420 for my headers. Just find it in the list and uncheck it. |
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