Calipers off for a trip to Mike,,,, pads are in hand, what to do? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

tmandoug1 · 03-24-2013, 08:51 PM

Removed my calipers today which was very easy once I figured out how to get the wheels off,,,,,,,who sells you a car and gives you no way of getting the wheels off the deck,,,,,jeez. Any way scissor jack and block of wood and all is good. What to do with my pads while the calipers are away? Hate the dust but like the stopping power,,, have we on this forum found any middle ground with our ZL1 dust problem, any pads out there that will give me less dust without reducing the stopping power?

Tman

Deke736 · 03-24-2013, 08:53 PM

I know that some will say that the Hawk Ceramics reduce stopping power, but the reduction in dust was totally worth it. The only stopping loss I noticed was the initial bite from the OEM, but they will still haul the car down quickly.

tmandoug1 · 03-24-2013, 09:09 PM

You installed the ceramics and have no issues? Also, did it make a noticeable difference in dust? Can you send me the PN of the pads you got? Thanks Deke.

Modern07 · 03-24-2013, 11:17 PM

I've installed the hawk ceramics and haven't noticed any difference in stopping power from OEM.

I HAVE noticed a lot less dust though!

RiCorvette · 03-24-2013, 11:47 PM

ZL1
Rear: Hawk Performance HB194Z.570 Performance Ceramic Brake Pad
Front: Hawk Performance HB649Z.605 Performance Ceramic Brake Pad

Shop around; I found one cheaper on Ebay and the other on Amazon.

Haddem on my 10 SS and appreciated the reduced dust.
Not installed yet, but I do expect similar results for my Zed.

1MtnGoat · 03-25-2013, 05:30 AM

I've had the Hawk ceramics on for over 13,000 miles now and have had no problems what so ever. Rotors still look like new. The dust is significantly less. I think I was the first one on here to do the swap on a ZL1. All driving has been "street driving". I did not notice any difference in stopping power after I did the swap.

OVERPAR73 · 03-25-2013, 06:28 AM

You have to buy the ceramic pads for the dust situation alone! I was sick and tired of cleanning the wheels after every drive. You won't be disappointed, trust all the forum members!

Deke736 · 03-25-2013, 07:07 AM

I got mine from Maryland Speed when they were running a sale a few months back. Same PN's that Ricamaro posted above. I want to say I paid around $250 shipped for them. I haven't tracked mine with then, but I am only the occasional drag racer so I don't foresee any issues. The dust reduction is completely worth the price! I would suggest sending a PM to a few vendors to see who will give you the best deal. I know GMPartshouse will match any price too.

SCHUSS · 03-25-2013, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricamaro

ZL1
Rear: Hawk Performance HB194Z.570 Performance Ceramic Brake Pad
Front: Hawk Performance HB649Z.605 Performance Ceramic Brake Pad

Shop around; I found one cheaper on Ebay and the other on Amazon.

Haddem on my 10 SS and appreciated the reduced dust.
Not installed yet, but I do expect similar results for my Zed.

Thanks for the numbers!
On order, Amazon $241.88 for both 2nd day air w/Amazon prime!

zfuzz · 03-25-2013, 11:14 AM

Anybody have any idea how hard the Hawk ceramics will be on the rotors? Will they wear the same as if the stock pads were still installed? Or will the eat the rotors up pretty quickly.

I would love to lose the dust, I cant drive to the mailbox and back without having to detail my wheels again

But I don't want to be buying rotors every few thousand miles either.

RiCorvette · 03-25-2013, 11:21 AM

I had mine on for 10k miles then sold the car. I never noticed much difference (if any at all) in stopping power or wear on the rotors, but I did notice a marked decrease in dust.
My '10 was a DD.

Others with more mileage will chime in soon, I suppose.

If rotor wear is a big concern, you may want to investigate Cryo-treating.

BeachBum · 03-25-2013, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zfuzz

Anybody have any idea how hard the Hawk ceramics will be on the rotors? Will they wear the same as if the stock pads were still installed? Or will the eat the rotors up pretty quickly.

I would love to lose the dust, I cant drive to the mailbox and back without having to detail my wheels again

But I don't want to be buying rotors every few thousand miles either.

Yes, I Too Want To Find Different Pads To Help With The Dust Problem - Have Heard That Switching To Ceramics Will Warp The Rotors As They Get Hotter Against The Rotors - Anyone Experienced This Over Time?

charlietuna · 03-25-2013, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachBum

Yes, I Too Want To Find Different Pads To Help With The Dust Problem - Have Heard That Switching To Ceramics Will Warp The Rotors As They Get Hotter Against The Rotors - Anyone Experienced This Over Time?

This question needs to be answered hopefully one of the members who track the car can chime in.

I'm sick of the dust as well but am willing to buy more Adams green wheel cleaner if the rotors are ill affected. Im sure they are not cheap!!

tmandoug1 · 03-25-2013, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHUSS

Thanks for the numbers!
On order, Amazon $241.88 for both 2nd day air w/Amazon prime!

I found the same price, are there any sponsors that would like to match, would like to support you guys first.

03-24-2013, 08:51 PM	#1
tmandoug1 Deep Sea Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Fl. Posts: 969 View My Garage	Calipers off for a trip to Mike,,,, pads are in hand, what to do? Removed my calipers today which was very easy once I figured out how to get the wheels off,,,,,,,who sells you a car and gives you no way of getting the wheels off the deck,,,,,jeez. Any way scissor jack and block of wood and all is good. What to do with my pads while the calipers are away? Hate the dust but like the stopping power,,, have we on this forum found any middle ground with our ZL1 dust problem, any pads out there that will give me less dust without reducing the stopping power? Tman

03-24-2013, 08:53 PM	#2
Deke736 COTW 12/3/12 Drives: 2012 Ashen Gray ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Glen Carbon, IL Posts: 3,279	I know that some will say that the Hawk Ceramics reduce stopping power, but the reduction in dust was totally worth it. The only stopping loss I noticed was the initial bite from the OEM, but they will still haul the car down quickly. __________________

03-24-2013, 11:17 PM	#4
Modern07 Mid-Florida Camaro Club Drives: 2019 ZL1 on Order Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Heathrow, FL Posts: 3,136	I've installed the hawk ceramics and haven't noticed any difference in stopping power from OEM. I HAVE noticed a lot less dust though! __________________ My Build Thread

03-25-2013, 05:30 AM	#6
1MtnGoat Drives: '12 SIM ZL1, 1 of 49 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Eastern TN Posts: 459	I've had the Hawk ceramics on for over 13,000 miles now and have had no problems what so ever. Rotors still look like new. The dust is significantly less. I think I was the first one on here to do the swap on a ZL1. All driving has been "street driving". I did not notice any difference in stopping power after I did the swap. __________________ Under Hood - Painted strut bar ends w/custom Polished Stainless mounting hardware, E2 CC, RotoFab CAI, ZL1 underhood decal, Amsoil oil, Black billet strut covers, Metco pulleys, intercooler reservoir, JRE 75 RWHP package. Chassis - Hawk ceramic brake pads, ZL1 wheel decals, Amsoil fluids Interior - A pillar gauge pod w/Aeroforce Interceptor gauges, Polished ZL1 speaker rings, ZL1 mats and console lid, Custom GPS mount Exterior - 3M clear bra, LED driving lights, PIAA Plasma Ion yellow fog lights, Window tint, CF bowties, Technostalgia sequential tail lights

03-25-2013, 06:28 AM	#7
OVERPAR73 2018 Garnet Red ZL1 conve Drives: 2013 & 2018 ZL1 vert Join Date: May 2009 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,471 View My Garage	You have to buy the ceramic pads for the dust situation alone! I was sick and tired of cleanning the wheels after every drive. You won't be disappointed, trust all the forum members! __________________ Build Thread: 2018 ZL1 Vert Purchased (Overpar73)

03-24-2013, 09:09 PM	#3
tmandoug1 Deep Sea Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Fl. Posts: 969 View My Garage	You installed the ceramics and have no issues? Also, did it make a noticeable difference in dust? Can you send me the PN of the pads you got? Thanks Deke.

03-24-2013, 11:47 PM	#5
RiCorvette Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport 3LT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Center of the known Universe Posts: 863	ZL1 Rear: Hawk Performance HB194Z.570 Performance Ceramic Brake Pad Front: Hawk Performance HB649Z.605 Performance Ceramic Brake Pad Shop around; I found one cheaper on Ebay and the other on Amazon. Haddem on my 10 SS and appreciated the reduced dust. Not installed yet, but I do expect similar results for my Zed.

03-25-2013, 07:07 AM	#8
Deke736 COTW 12/3/12 Drives: 2012 Ashen Gray ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Glen Carbon, IL Posts: 3,279	Calipers off for a trip to Mike,,,, pads are in hand, what to do? I got mine from Maryland Speed when they were running a sale a few months back. Same PN's that Ricamaro posted above. I want to say I paid around $250 shipped for them. I haven't tracked mine with then, but I am only the occasional drag racer so I don't foresee any issues. The dust reduction is completely worth the price! I would suggest sending a PM to a few vendors to see who will give you the best deal. I know GMPartshouse will match any price too. __________________

03-25-2013, 11:14 AM	#10
zfuzz Drives: 69 Z28 / 12 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 409 View My Garage	Anybody have any idea how hard the Hawk ceramics will be on the rotors? Will they wear the same as if the stock pads were still installed? Or will the eat the rotors up pretty quickly. I would love to lose the dust, I cant drive to the mailbox and back without having to detail my wheels again But I don't want to be buying rotors every few thousand miles either.

03-25-2013, 11:21 AM	#11
RiCorvette Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport 3LT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Center of the known Universe Posts: 863	I had mine on for 10k miles then sold the car. I never noticed much difference (if any at all) in stopping power or wear on the rotors, but I did notice a marked decrease in dust. My '10 was a DD. Others with more mileage will chime in soon, I suppose. If rotor wear is a big concern, you may want to investigate Cryo-treating.