Thoughts after washing the Cruze & Crossfire - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

RubyCamaro · 04-21-2013, 11:02 PM

First of all, it is amazing how much easier these 2 cars are to wash. For a lot of reasons. Obviously they are both a lot smaller. But even though neither one has much if any wax on them at this point, the bugs, dirt, pollen, grease & tar, bird poop, all came off them much easier than the Camaro. Why is that? I did not see any etching where bugs or bird poop had sat for a very long time. On my Camaro a bug or bird poop can be on the paint just a day of so & very often there is already etching. And there were VERY FEW paint chips. I have been daily driving the Cruze back & forth to work, round trip of about 70 miles a day for 7 months. My son drove it on several long trips before he left for the army. It will soon have 20K miles on it. The front end had exactly 1 paint chip on it - 1. WHY? My Camaro's paint is full of chips. Granted, I daily drove it for the first 2 years and have around 36K miles on it but the difference is quite remarkable in the paint of these 2 Chevys. I don't understand.

CHMSC · 04-21-2013, 11:09 PM

For some reason the paint quality on the Camaro's is subpar.

DaBears · 04-21-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CHMSC

For some reason the paint quality on the Camaro's is subpar.

Many camaro owners are reporting that.

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Frid · 04-21-2013, 11:35 PM

Never seem to have any problems washing mine. And haven't seen any rock chips in the 9k miles it's been driven.

RubyCamaro · 04-21-2013, 11:48 PM

Sounds like good luck to me. Hopefully it will hold up for ya.

SPARTAN sui · 04-21-2013, 11:53 PM

It seems like I have more chips on my 2011 Camaro with 20,000 miles than my 2007 Impala that had 43,000 miles. I feel your pain :(

RubyCamaro · 04-21-2013, 11:59 PM

But the Impala has the older oil based paint. The reason most often given when discussions of the paint on the Camaros is they had to go to water based paint due to EPA changes. But the Cruze is a 2012. It also has to have the water based paint right? What gives there?

Mr. iNCREDIBLE · 04-22-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Frid

Never seem to have any problems washing mine. And haven't seen any rock chips in the 9k miles it's been driven.

same with mine.. but then again I have mine detailed professionally once a week (all my cars for that matter), and no issues, believe me my detailer is one picky SOB, you would think they are his cars, he nit picks at everything..

But then that is why I have used him for nearly 10 years.. he knows his $hit and takes pride in his work..

SPARTAN sui · 04-22-2013, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RubyCamaro

But the Impala has the older oil based paint. The reason most often given when discussions of the paint on the Camaros is they had to go to water based paint due to EPA changes. But the Cruze is a 2012. It also has to have the water based paint right? What gives there?

Really? I thought that was water based also. You learn something new everyday.

The Cruze most definitely should have the same type of paint. I don't get it either.

Mr. Unassailable · 04-22-2013, 12:37 AM

OT question, but is your crossfire an SRT6?

RubyCamaro · 04-22-2013, 07:39 AM

No but it is still pretty fun to drive.

RubyCamaro · 04-22-2013, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SPARTAN sui

It seems like I have more chips on my 2011 Camaro with 20,000 miles than my 2007 Impala that had 43,000 miles. I feel your pain :(

I could be wrong, but I was thinking they had not switched over to water based yet in 2007. Maybe someone else on here knows for sure.

roorback · 04-22-2013, 04:59 PM

I think it depends on the drive. I do a lot of freeway driving, but construction, traffic and trucks have hammered my DD. I'd imagine that's why you see the disparity b/w owners. My Camaro has one or two chips but it's never in traffic so no chips.

But if you're driving a different car on the same routes then there is something to questioning the quality of the paint.

dkp2LT · 04-22-2013, 05:29 PM

The front end of my Camaro is on par w/ out DD's consider the mileage. IMO the major issue is the way the front tires can kick debris down the sides and back to the Q-panels. Since I put on the mud flaps (excuse me, quarter flares!) I have dramatically reduced the number of new chips.

I may be lucky - no highway to or from work & rarely in any heavy traffic. Therefore I don't have to worry about flying debris in our day-to-day driving.

04-21-2013, 11:02 PM	#1
RubyCamaro Jan Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT Red Jewel tintcoat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield, TN Posts: 16,241 View My Garage	Thoughts after washing the Cruze & Crossfire First of all, it is amazing how much easier these 2 cars are to wash. For a lot of reasons. Obviously they are both a lot smaller. But even though neither one has much if any wax on them at this point, the bugs, dirt, pollen, grease & tar, bird poop, all came off them much easier than the Camaro. Why is that? I did not see any etching where bugs or bird poop had sat for a very long time. On my Camaro a bug or bird poop can be on the paint just a day of so & very often there is already etching. And there were VERY FEW paint chips. I have been daily driving the Cruze back & forth to work, round trip of about 70 miles a day for 7 months. My son drove it on several long trips before he left for the army. It will soon have 20K miles on it. The front end had exactly 1 paint chip on it - 1. WHY? My Camaro's paint is full of chips. Granted, I daily drove it for the first 2 years and have around 36K miles on it but the difference is quite remarkable in the paint of these 2 Chevys. I don't understand. __________________

04-21-2013, 11:09 PM	#2
CHMSC ROAD COURSE JUNKIE Drives: 2012 SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Somewhere Posts: 4,868 View My Garage	For some reason the paint quality on the Camaro's is subpar. __________________

04-21-2013, 11:35 PM	#4
Frid Drives: '11 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 3,483	Never seem to have any problems washing mine. And haven't seen any rock chips in the 9k miles it's been driven. __________________

04-21-2013, 11:48 PM	#5
RubyCamaro Jan Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT Red Jewel tintcoat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield, TN Posts: 16,241 View My Garage	Sounds like good luck to me. Hopefully it will hold up for ya. __________________

04-21-2013, 11:53 PM	#6
SPARTAN sui PC Technician Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,161	It seems like I have more chips on my 2011 Camaro with 20,000 miles than my 2007 Impala that had 43,000 miles. I feel your pain :( __________________

04-21-2013, 11:59 PM	#7
RubyCamaro Jan Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT Red Jewel tintcoat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield, TN Posts: 16,241 View My Garage	But the Impala has the older oil based paint. The reason most often given when discussions of the paint on the Camaros is they had to go to water based paint due to EPA changes. But the Cruze is a 2012. It also has to have the water based paint right? What gives there? __________________

04-22-2013, 12:37 AM	#10
Mr. Unassailable Drives: 2010 2SS MT, 2010 SHO, 2004 S60R Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 581	OT question, but is your crossfire an SRT6? __________________ Garage: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6, 2010 Taurus SHO, 2004 S60R GT, 2008 F250

04-22-2013, 07:39 AM	#11
RubyCamaro Jan Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT Red Jewel tintcoat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield, TN Posts: 16,241 View My Garage	No but it is still pretty fun to drive. __________________

04-22-2013, 04:59 PM	#13
roorback Drives: V8 permagrin Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here Posts: 618	I think it depends on the drive. I do a lot of freeway driving, but construction, traffic and trucks have hammered my DD. I'd imagine that's why you see the disparity b/w owners. My Camaro has one or two chips but it's never in traffic so no chips. But if you're driving a different car on the same routes then there is something to questioning the quality of the paint.

04-22-2013, 05:29 PM	#14
dkp2LT Drives: '11 2SS, '11 C6 GS, '04 MDX Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kearney, MO Posts: 2,907	The front end of my Camaro is on par w/ out DD's consider the mileage. IMO the major issue is the way the front tires can kick debris down the sides and back to the Q-panels. Since I put on the mud flaps (excuse me, quarter flares!) I have dramatically reduced the number of new chips. I may be lucky - no highway to or from work & rarely in any heavy traffic. Therefore I don't have to worry about flying debris in our day-to-day driving.