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Ajmalian · 10-19-2013, 04:12 PM

Hey guys....need some help here...now before you go on and raise some eye brows, I wanna give you some background to my requirement. I live in a city (Dubai, U.A.E) where traffic is just getting bad to worse as the months go by.

Here, I own a 2010 Camaro SS M6 that runs about 608RWHP. I have a whipple, cam and a whole list of toys that help the car put down that kind of power. Along with all the upgrades, you can imagine I had to upgrade my clutch too to a twin disc heavy duty clutch by Exedy. Drivability during traffic hours is just so painful, especially with the clutch behaving differently as the temperatures go up crawling in the traffic. The cam doesn't help crawl peacefully in the traffic too. Car keeps rocking back and forth....I want to swap out to automatic!!

THERE....I SAID IT!!!

Is it doable and what are your suggestions? Please mention pros and cons of doing so...

I would really appreciate your feedback.

Keep in mind, in the near future I plan to go bigger block targeting 800+ on the wheels.

Bad70supreme · 10-20-2013, 12:36 AM

4l80e or a th400. The 4l80 is pricey and the computer part I am sure is tricky. I am doing a th400 swap as we speak, much cheaper but just a strong. I also like no electronics and still shifting on my own. Down side is no overdrive, but all depends on the driving you do. 70mph will still be fine with the Th400 but gas mileage is gonna drop.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-20-2013, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

gas mileage is gonna drop.

Somehow I don't think gas mileage is going to be much of an issue in the UAE.

John B.

Mr. Nasty · 10-20-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

Somehow I don't think gas mileage is going to be much of an issue in the UAE.

John B.

Ajmalian · 10-20-2013, 03:24 PM

Hey hey hey...just cuz I'm running 600+ on wheel doesn't mean I don't care about the environment!! ;-P

Thanks for the info though Bad70Supreme!!

Anymore suggestions or feedback??

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-20-2013, 07:00 PM

Ajmalian, just out of curiosity, how much is gasoline there, per gallon or per liter, however it's sold?

John B.

Mr. Nasty · 10-20-2013, 08:09 PM

I have the same set as you whipple cam and 586 RWHP am running the 4L80 trans. I track the car a lot and joy ride. Go with the 4l80 you'll love it. You can cruse at high speeds with out high rpm with your 3.45 rear gear. Am running 3.91 with mine.

Ajmalian · 10-20-2013, 08:16 PM

Mr. Nasty, I too am running 3.91 rear gear..but tell me, is 4l80e not a 4 speed?

I would've imagined we would need a 6l80e or 6l90 like the ZL1 at the least where we get a 6 speed auto?

Mr. Nasty · 10-20-2013, 08:23 PM

Yes with overdrive I have my converter set to lock up at 55 mph.

Ajmalian · 10-20-2013, 08:27 PM

JohnnyBfromPeoria, our gas sells at $0.50/liter or $1.90/US Gallon for 98 Octane and $ 0.44/liter or $1.67/US Gallon for 95 Octane....then we've got diesel which I honestly don't know about

What are the prices like in the US?

Ajmalian · 10-20-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nasty

Yes with overdrive I have my converter set to lock up at 55 mph.

Unfortunately I don't know or understand the whole overdrive and stall converter locking up concept as yet. I guess I have to read up on I before I ask these questions huh?

I didn't know things "lock up"

Where do I go to learn all this?

Mr. Nasty · 10-20-2013, 08:34 PM

On the internet LOL

Mr. Nasty · 10-20-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajmalian

JohnnyBfromPeoria, our gas sells at $0.50/liter or $1.90/US Gallon for 98 Octane and $ 0.44/liter or $1.67/US Gallon for 95 Octane....then we've got diesel which I honestly don't know about

What are the prices like in the US?

Nice I cut 91 with 112 to make a 99 octane at a cost of $7.50 a gallon. And my work trucks are diesel and its $3.90 a gallon.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 10-20-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajmalian

JohnnyBfromPeoria, our gas sells at $0.50/liter or $1.90/US Gallon for 98 Octane and $ 0.44/liter or $1.67/US Gallon for 95 Octane....then we've got diesel which I honestly don't know about

What are the prices like in the US?

Ajmalian, the closest comparison I can give you is our 91 octane (probably the same as your 95 because of the measuring method). The best price I have paid in recent history was $3.21/gallon.

I honestly thought yours would be even less than that, but I sure wouldn't complain if I was paying it!

John B.

10-19-2013, 04:12 PM	#1
Ajmalian Drives: 2017 ZL1 and 2016 GMC Sierra Denali Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates Posts: 248	Transmission swap Hey guys....need some help here...now before you go on and raise some eye brows, I wanna give you some background to my requirement. I live in a city (Dubai, U.A.E) where traffic is just getting bad to worse as the months go by. Here, I own a 2010 Camaro SS M6 that runs about 608RWHP. I have a whipple, cam and a whole list of toys that help the car put down that kind of power. Along with all the upgrades, you can imagine I had to upgrade my clutch too to a twin disc heavy duty clutch by Exedy. Drivability during traffic hours is just so painful, especially with the clutch behaving differently as the temperatures go up crawling in the traffic. The cam doesn't help crawl peacefully in the traffic too. Car keeps rocking back and forth....I want to swap out to automatic!! THERE....I SAID IT!!! Is it doable and what are your suggestions? Please mention pros and cons of doing so... I would really appreciate your feedback. Keep in mind, in the near future I plan to go bigger block targeting 800+ on the wheels.

10-20-2013, 12:36 AM	#2
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	4l80e or a th400. The 4l80 is pricey and the computer part I am sure is tricky. I am doing a th400 swap as we speak, much cheaper but just a strong. I also like no electronics and still shifting on my own. Down side is no overdrive, but all depends on the driving you do. 70mph will still be fine with the Th400 but gas mileage is gonna drop. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

10-20-2013, 08:09 PM	#7
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	I have the same set as you whipple cam and 586 RWHP am running the 4L80 trans. I track the car a lot and joy ride. Go with the 4l80 you'll love it. You can cruse at high speeds with out high rpm with your 3.45 rear gear. Am running 3.91 with mine. __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

10-20-2013, 08:23 PM	#9
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	Yes with overdrive I have my converter set to lock up at 55 mph. __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

10-20-2013, 08:34 PM	#12
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	On the internet LOL __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

10-20-2013, 03:24 PM	#5
Ajmalian Drives: 2017 ZL1 and 2016 GMC Sierra Denali Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates Posts: 248	Hey hey hey...just cuz I'm running 600+ on wheel doesn't mean I don't care about the environment!! ;-P Thanks for the info though Bad70Supreme!! Anymore suggestions or feedback??

10-20-2013, 07:00 PM	#6
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	Ajmalian, just out of curiosity, how much is gasoline there, per gallon or per liter, however it's sold? John B.

10-20-2013, 08:16 PM	#8
Ajmalian Drives: 2017 ZL1 and 2016 GMC Sierra Denali Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates Posts: 248	Mr. Nasty, I too am running 3.91 rear gear..but tell me, is 4l80e not a 4 speed? I would've imagined we would need a 6l80e or 6l90 like the ZL1 at the least where we get a 6 speed auto?

10-20-2013, 08:27 PM	#10
Ajmalian Drives: 2017 ZL1 and 2016 GMC Sierra Denali Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates Posts: 248	JohnnyBfromPeoria, our gas sells at $0.50/liter or $1.90/US Gallon for 98 Octane and $ 0.44/liter or $1.67/US Gallon for 95 Octane....then we've got diesel which I honestly don't know about What are the prices like in the US?