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by Odeon
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C7 Corvette will get all NEW 8-SPEED AUTO
Well, check this out: http://papers.sae.org/2014-01-1721/
"General Motors Rear Wheel Drive Eight Speed Automatic Transmission General Motors shall introduce a new rear wheel drive eight speed automatic transmission, known as the 8L90, in the 2015 Chevrolet Corvette. The rated turbine torque capacity is 1000 Nm. This transmission replaces the venerable 6L80 six speed automatic transmission. The objectives behind creation of this transmission are improved fuel economy, performance, and NVH. Packaging in the existing vehicle architecture and high mileage dependability are the givens. The architecture is required to offer low cost for a rear drive eight speed transmission while meeting the givens and objectives. An eight speed powerflow, invented by General Motors, was selected. This powerflow yields a 7.0 overall ratio spread, enabling improved launch capability because of a deeper first gear ratio and better fuel economy due to lower top gear N/V capability, relative to the 6L80. The eight speed ratios are generated using four simple planetary gearsets, two brake clutches and three rotating clutches. The resultant on-axis transmission architecture utilizes a squashed torque converter, an off-axis pump and four close coupled gearsets. The three rotating clutches have been located forward of the gearsets to minimize the length of oil feeds which provides for enhanced shift response and simplicity of turbine shaft manufacturing. The transmission architecture features a case with integral bell housing for enhanced powertrain stiffness. A unique pump drive design allows for off-axis packaging very low in the transmission. The pump is a binary vane type which effectively allows for two pumps in the packaging size of one. This design and packaging strategy not only enables low parasitic losses and optimum priming capability but also provides for ideal oil routing to the controls system, with the pump located in the valve body itself. The transmission controller is externally mounted, enabling packaging and powertrain integration flexibilities. The controller makes use of three speed sensors which provide for enhanced shift response and accuracy. Utilization of aluminum and magnesium components throughout the transmission yields competitive mass. The dedicated compensator feed circuit, used in GM six speed designs, was supplanted by a lube-fed design in order to simplify oil routing and enhance shift response. Packaging is within that of the GM 6L80 design, allowing for ease of application integration. The overall result is a robust, compact, and cost effective transmission which offers significant fuel economy and performance benefit, over its six speed counterpart, and shall provide an attractive balance of overall metrics in the automatic transmission market."
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Bad ass !
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Must be the one they worked with ford with? I rather see a Dual clutch in vette since it is a sports car and most sports cars have Dual clutches cause they are quicker shifting.
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Thanks S3XPanther! Awesome news! I wish it was available at launch for the people who have bought the 2014 Model Year Stingray's sake.
Can't wait to hear even more details and info about it though!
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Even those affordable foreign Hot Hatch's have all gone to dual clutch transmissions. Even the Euro spec Ford and Chrysler/ Fiats have them.
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GM Files Patent For 7-Speed Dual-Clutch, Is Corvette First In Line? http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-first-in-line
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This is awesome news, and will make the Corvette even more badass than it already is.
Automatic corvettes are already running deep into the 11s bone stock. 11.67 is the fastest I have seen. I'm guessing this transmission should shave another tenth or two off of that. Sweetness!
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by Odeon
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Don't worry, the hi-po will more than likely have one as well.
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by Odeon
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These are all the patents that GM already has on DCT tech:
Patents 1 8,600,633 Full-Text Gear preselect systems for a dual clutch transmission 2 8,591,381 Full-Text System and method for controlling an automatic engine restart 3 8,590,684 Full-Text Control system for a dual clutch transmission 4 8,589,042 Full-Text System and method for adaptive transmission clutch torque control 5 8,585,548 Full-Text System and method for controlling an automatic engine stop-start 6 8,579,762 Full-Text Negative torque upshift offgoing clutch control systems and methods 7 8,579,751 Full-Text Hybrid powertrain with layshaft transmission and electric torque converter and method of controlling same 8 8,578,803 Full-Text Synchronizer actuation assembly 9 8,577,565 Full-Text Limiting branch pressure to a solenoid valve in a fluid circuit 10 8,573,084 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 11 8,567,580 Full-Text Electro-hydraulic control system for a dual clutch transmission 12 8,567,273 Full-Text Gear transfer dual clutch transmission 13 8,561,502 Full-Text Dual drive pump system with one way clutches 14 8,560,192 Full-Text Control system and method for shift fork position in dual clutch transmissions 15 8,551,576 Full-Text Method for controlling a coefficient of friction 16 8,548,699 Full-Text Control system and method for adaptive control of transmission fluid operating pressures 17 8,543,279 Full-Text System and method for detecting and responding to pressure losses in a hydraulic automatic transmission 18 8,534,150 Full-Text Dual clutch multi-speed transmission 19 8,532,890 Full-Text Driven wheel torque estimation systems and methods 20 8,532,858 Full-Text Multi-speed hybrid powertrain with series and parallel operating modes 21 8,529,402 Full-Text Pump arrangement 22 8,528,711 Full-Text Control system for a dual clutch transmission 23 8,528,431 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 24 8,521,382 Full-Text Transmission oil temperature estimation systems and methods 25 8,511,189 Full-Text Dual clutch multi-speed transmission 26 8,505,401 Full-Text Seven speed dual clutch transmission with four axes of rotation 27 8,505,400 Full-Text Dual clutch five speed transmission 28 8,504,267 Full-Text Control system and method for synchronization control in dual clutch transmissions 29 8,504,265 Full-Text System and method for decreasing acceleration disturbance during transmission upshifts 30 8,504,263 Full-Text Accumulator working volume management and adaptation 31 8,499,656 Full-Text Eight speed dual clutch transmission 32 8,495,926 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 33 8,485,333 Full-Text Actuation device for a dual clutch transmission 34 8,485,056 Full-Text Dual clutch multi-speed transmission 35 8,479,602 Full-Text Seven speed dual clutch transmission with four axes of rotation 36 8,475,336 Full-Text Hydraulic control system for a dual clutch transmission 37 8,474,586 Full-Text Clutch actuation assembly with satellite pistons 38 8,474,341 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 39 8,469,858 Full-Text Hybrid vehicle with dual clutch transmission 40 8,469,851 Full-Text Oil supply system for an automatic transmission of a vehicle, an automatic transmission and a vehicle comprising the oil supply system 41 8,464,851 Full-Text Electro-hydraulic control system for an automatic transmission 42 8,464,599 Full-Text Eight speed dual clutch transmission 43 8,459,135 Full-Text Seven speed dual clutch transmission having improved packaging 44 8,453,557 Full-Text Piston actuator assembly 45 8,443,688 Full-Text Method of learning an initial capacity point of a clutch in a dual clutch transmission 46 8,443,687 Full-Text Electro-hydraulic control system for a dual clutch transmission 47 8,443,686 Full-Text Seven speed dual clutch transmission 48 8,439,803 Full-Text System and method for improved closed throttle downshifts 49 8,438,941 Full-Text Eight speed dual clutch transmission 50 8,434,603 Full-Text Low content control system for a dual clutch transmission 51 8,434,380 Full-Text Dual clutch multi-speed transmission 52 8,433,487 Full-Text Shift sequencing systems for a dual clutch transmission 53 8,430,220 Full-Text Wet dual clutch transmission control system 54 8,429,994 Full-Text Hydraulic control systems for dual clutch transmissions 55 8,427,806 Full-Text Control system and method for transmission solenoids 56 8,425,376 Full-Text Multi-speed dual-clutch transmission for a hybrid vehicle 57 8,424,404 Full-Text Eight speed dual clutch transmissions 58 8,413,780 Full-Text Dual clutch for a transmission having multiple input shafts 59 8,413,777 Full-Text High efficiency hydraulic transmission control system 60 8,412,396 Full-Text Electric launch of a hybrid vehicle having a belt alternator starter and a dual clutch transmission 61 8,408,085 Full-Text Seven speed dual clutch transmission 62 8,403,792 Full-Text Hydraulic control systems for dual clutch transmissions 63 8,402,993 Full-Text Hydraulic fluid cooling system for a dual clutch automatic transmission 64 8,402,859 Full-Text Barrel cam shift mechanism 65 8,402,855 Full-Text Hydraulic control systems for dual clutch transmissions 66 8,396,634 Full-Text Method and apparatus for maximum and minimum output torque performance by selection of hybrid range state and input speed for a hybrid powertrain system 67 8,382,639 Full-Text Control system for a dual clutch transmission 68 8,376,109 Full-Text Lever applied dry clutch 69 8,375,817 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 70 8,371,552 Full-Text Shift actuator valve having a pressure dead band 71 8,366,557 Full-Text Engine drive plate connection 72 8,365,893 Full-Text Dual clutch 73 8,365,622 Full-Text Reverse chain drive for motor vehicle transmissions 74 8,364,364 Full-Text System and method for controlling unpowered to powered transitions in vehicles having dry dual clutch transmissions 75 8,364,361 Full-Text Transmission clutch control apparatus and method 76 8,359,941 Full-Text Hydraulic control systems for dual clutch transmissions 77 8,356,529 Full-Text Hydraulic control systems for dual clutch transmissions 78 8,346,451 Full-Text Realtime estimation of clutch piston position 79 8,336,411 Full-Text Dual clutch multi-speed transmission 80 8,336,410 Full-Text Dual clutch multi-speed transmission 81 8,333,127 Full-Text Seven speed dual clutch transmission with four axes of rotation 82 8,327,730 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 83 8,313,415 Full-Text Method and apparatus for clutch control in a vehicle having an engine start-stop powertrain and a dual-clutch transmission 84 8,302,500 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 85 8,297,424 Full-Text Single actuator self-adjusting dry dual clutch 86 8,297,140 Full-Text Dual clutch five speed transmission 87 8,292,055 Full-Text Self-adjusting mechanisms for clutches 88 8,286,526 Full-Text Synchronizer actuating system 89 8,286,522 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 90 8,285,463 Full-Text Method and system for calibrating a pressure sensor for an automatic transmission 91 8,276,439 Full-Text System and method for determining a volume of a torque converter clutch and calibrating a transmission 92 8,266,986 Full-Text Transmission hydraulic control system having a dual element pump 93 8,266,977 Full-Text Seven speed dual clutch transmission 94 8,241,161 Full-Text Hybrid module for interconnecting an engine and a transmission 95 8,240,224 Full-Text Dual clutch five speed transmission 96 8,234,946 Full-Text Hydraulic control system for a dual clutch transmission 97 8,225,915 Full-Text Dual clutch torque converter control system 98 8,225,687 Full-Text Hydraulic control systems for dual clutch transmissions 99 8,224,537 Full-Text Method and apparatus for dry clutch temperature prediction in a DCT 100 8,221,279 Full-Text Dual apply clutch apparatus for compact electro-mechanical transmission 101 8,220,352 Full-Text Dual clutch transmission 102 8,220,351 Full-Text Dual clutch multi-speed transmission having one countershaft and a reverse shaft 103 8,210,066 Full-Text Electromagnetic synchronizer actuating system 104 8,206,265 Full-Text Control system for dual clutch transmission 105 8,192,176 Full-Text Hydraulic fluid supply system having active regulator 106 8,191,441 Full-Text Hybrid powertrain and dual clutch transmission 107 8,190,343 Full-Text Gear actuator control systems and methods for dual clutch transmissions 108 8,189,336 Full-Text Composite cover with integral heat sink 109 8,166,841 Full-Text Manual transmission for a motor vehicle 110 8,150,586 Full-Text Method for synchronized transmission gear ratio engagement 111 8,137,241 Full-Text System and method for automatic transmission shift control 112 8,117,935 Full-Text Synchronizer actuating system with selectives 113 8,117,933 Full-Text Five speed dual clutch transmission 114 8,117,932 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with countershaft gearing 115 8,116,951 Full-Text Transmission with substantially identical gear sets for torque load sharing 116 8,104,367 Full-Text Seven speed dual clutch transmission 117 8,104,366 Full-Text Double-clutch transmission for vehicles 118 8,091,696 Full-Text Rocker clutch assembly 119 8,070,649 Full-Text Hybrid powertrain and dual clutch transmission 120 8,070,638 Full-Text Dual input planetary final drive 121 8,065,930 Full-Text Hydraulic actuator for transmissions having reduced noise 122 8,056,663 Full-Text Hybrid module for interconnecting an engine and a dual-clutch transmission 123 8,056,429 Full-Text Multi-speed dual clutch transmission with countershaft gearing arrangement 124 8,038,564 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission 125 8,011,261 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with countershaft gearing arrangement 126 7,988,772 Full-Text Air/oil separator for transmissions and transaxles 127 7,987,740 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with countershaft gearing arrangement 128 7,985,283 Full-Text System for de-aerating a hydraulic fluid in a transmission 129 7,980,374 Full-Text Flow accumulator and clutch control system for automatic transmissions 130 7,972,235 Full-Text Hybrid powertrain system having selectively connectable engine, motor/generator, and transmission 131 7,963,191 Full-Text Hybrid powertrain and dual clutch transmission 132 7,913,580 Full-Text Apparatus and method for securing transmission gear synchronizers to shafts 133 7,896,775 Full-Text Control system for electronic range selection in a dual clutch transmission 134 7,896,770 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission 135 7,886,626 Full-Text Multi-speed dual clutch transmission 136 7,870,804 Full-Text Multi-speed dual clutch transmission 137 7,846,055 Full-Text Multi-speed split dual clutch transmission 138 7,845,247 Full-Text Shift fork actuation system for control of synchronizer position 139 7,837,589 Full-Text Multi-speed split dual clutch transmission 140 7,832,298 Full-Text Countershaft clutch and gear assembly 141 7,828,684 Full-Text Control system for a differential in a transmission 142 7,752,935 Full-Text Control system for a multi-speed transmission 143 7,752,934 Full-Text Multi speed transmission having a countershaft gearing arrangement 144 7,743,678 Full-Text Selectable one-way rocker clutch 145 7,743,677 Full-Text Powertrain with torque converter and axially compact seven speed dual clutch transmission 146 7,703,346 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with countershaft gearing 147 7,695,390 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission 148 7,669,497 Full-Text Powertrain with torque converter and axially compact seven speed dual clutch transmission 149 7,644,639 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with countershaft gearing 150 7,640,818 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with a countershaft gearing 151 7,610,825 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with countershaft gearing 152 7,604,561 Full-Text Multi-speed countershaft transmission with a planetary gear set and method 153 7,597,644 Full-Text Nine or ten speed split clutch countershaft automatic transmission 154 7,524,265 Full-Text Powertrain overspeed protection 155 7,478,572 Full-Text Transmission with torque sensors and method of controlling a transmission 156 7,437,963 Full-Text Power transmission 157 7,415,905 Full-Text Vehicular transmissions utilizing slipper ring clutch control 158 7,401,687 Full-Text Dual clutch engine coupling damper 159 7,353,724 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with Hi-Lo output torque-transmitting mechanisms and gear sets 160 7,322,456 Full-Text Radially stacked dual dry clutch configuration 161 7,311,630 Full-Text Multi-speed transmission with differential gear set and countershaft gearing 162 7,235,037 Full-Text Friction launch control system for a vehicle
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Hail to the King baby!
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I think the JV is on FWD transmissions similar to the 6 speeds they are using jointly today.
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This is really cool stuff. The Camaro SS historically gets its drive train from the Vette so with less weight, more power, and improved gear box technology we are going to be looking at serious performance and great fuel economy in the 6th Gen.
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Sounds awesome, hearing it shift 8 times would be pretty unique lol.
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I wonder if we can transplant them in to the SS?
With my HP level, I may be in the market to replace my 6L80E soon enough. ![]() Padre |
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