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SixCyl · 12-11-2013, 04:03 PM

Hey all,

I just got my ceramic BBK headers in the mail but am unsure about one of them, the lip is slightly bent and there is rust along the inside. The lip shouldn't be an issue since the cats go around the header as I understand it. But the rust has me thinking. I called BBK and sent an email with the same pictures, the guy who answered said he'd look into it for me.

Anyway, what do you guys think? The last picture is of the header with no issues.

Lil' Nasty · 12-11-2013, 04:11 PM

Not sure about the rust, but the lip on one of my headers was bent too. No issues. Let us know what BBK sends back.

pgustavson · 12-11-2013, 04:20 PM

Rust in the vicinity of weldments is fairly typical - usually the first place it appears. I looks to be surface rust and would have appeared very shortly after use anyway. I wouldn't be too concerned about it. But maybe BBK will have something different to say. Silly me thought that ceramic coated meant a coating both inside and out. Had no idea the inside was left uncoated. IMO, that's where the coating is needed...

jlawrence613 · 12-11-2013, 04:21 PM

lol yeah im curious too. just got my headers on monday, (also from bbk). had a tiny bit of rust in there.

SixCyl · 12-11-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil' Nasty

Not sure about the rust, but the lip on one of my headers was bent too. No issues. Let us know what BBK sends back.

Yeah I found that other thread where someone had the same issue. But the rust issue wasn't settled I felt like. As far as BBK's response, I'll let all of you guys knows as soon as I do.

menendez1293 · 12-11-2013, 04:22 PM

The surface rust is normal around the weld points but I am curious to see what BBK has to say

SixCyl · 12-11-2013, 04:25 PM

Speak of the devil!

Hey Carlos,

Sorry I haven’t had a chance to call back yet.. Phones have been a bit busy today to say the least. This does look like something that could cause some leaking issues. The rust also is not normal for a “brand new” part. Do I remember you saying you bought these from American Muscle?

- xxxx (I'm keeping him confidential)

camaro2lt · 12-11-2013, 11:59 PM

mine has this too....i just bought them and are ceramic coated

SixCyl · 12-12-2013, 05:26 PM

That's quite a few people. I don't feel very secure about these now.

KMPrenger · 12-12-2013, 08:27 PM

Not saying yours are fine, but I've never ever heard of anyone having any issues with BBKs after the install. Have you heard back from them?

SixCyl · 12-12-2013, 09:09 PM

No not yet, and you're right I haven't either. That reminder does help, thanks KM. But I decided to check the header again and the rust is present even on the manifold side, so the rust must go the entire length of the header. I contacted autoanything and they told me call customer service for a warranty claim.

simt3k · 12-13-2013, 11:32 AM

The whole bottom of my bbk headers are completely rusted out and my cats are completely covered in rust, regardless if they ceramic coated they aren't stainless steel.

SixCyl · 12-13-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by simt3k

The whole bottom of my bbk headers are completely rusted out and my cats are completely covered in rust, regardless if they ceramic coated they aren't stainless steel.

How long did that take to happen?

Apex Motorsports · 12-13-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by simt3k

The whole bottom of my bbk headers are completely rusted out and my cats are completely covered in rust, regardless if they ceramic coated they aren't stainless steel.

This. Mild steel and 400 series stainless will rust. Even if it is coated it will still happen eventually. If you want you exhaust to stay pristine and outlast the car then you have to go with 300 series stainless.

12-11-2013, 04:03 PM	#1
SixCyl Drives: 2010 Camaro CGM V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 694 View My Garage	BBK headers bent and rusted? Hey all, I just got my ceramic BBK headers in the mail but am unsure about one of them, the lip is slightly bent and there is rust along the inside. The lip shouldn't be an issue since the cats go around the header as I understand it. But the rust has me thinking. I called BBK and sent an email with the same pictures, the guy who answered said he'd look into it for me. Anyway, what do you guys think? The last picture is of the header with no issues. Attached Images __________________ El gato. Mods: Eagle eye headlights, 18" Axis Sport graphite, Roto-Fab cold air intake, Vmax ported TB, 3/8" Vmax Black-Ice, RX single valve catch can, RX breather, Pedders inserts, Trifecta tune, BBK LTH 304 SS. art/ärt/Noun. Definition: 5th generation Camaro.

12-11-2013, 04:11 PM	#2
Lil' Nasty [COTW 4/13/15] Drives: Supercharged LLT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 5,957	Not sure about the rust, but the lip on one of my headers was bent too. No issues. Let us know what BBK sends back. __________________ LiL' Nasty's Build Journal

12-11-2013, 04:20 PM	#3
pgustavson Stop writing "vert", ffs! Drives: 2011 2LT Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Gambrills, MD Posts: 1,341 View My Garage	Rust in the vicinity of weldments is fairly typical - usually the first place it appears. I looks to be surface rust and would have appeared very shortly after use anyway. I wouldn't be too concerned about it. But maybe BBK will have something different to say. Silly me thought that ceramic coated meant a coating both inside and out. Had no idea the inside was left uncoated. IMO, that's where the coating is needed... __________________ Vararam \| Vmax Ported TB \| Ported IM \| Vmax Black ICE-olator

12-11-2013, 04:21 PM	#4
jlawrence613 Drives: 2011 V6 Premium Mustang Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 154	lol yeah im curious too. just got my headers on monday, (also from bbk). had a tiny bit of rust in there. __________________ Mods: MPT 93 Tune, FRPP 3.73 Gears, Airaid CAI, Boss 302 STB, J&M LCA, Whiteline Relocation Brackets, Eibach Sportlines, 18x9/10 2010 GT500 rims 255/45, 285/40/18 Nitto555, BBK Longtube Headers O/R X-pipe Up next: BBK 73mm TB, Ported Intake Manifold, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft, Mustang GT 2.75" Overaxle pipe. 2011 Ford Mustang V6: 13.258 @ 107.45 MPH Uncorrected

12-11-2013, 04:25 PM	#7
SixCyl Drives: 2010 Camaro CGM V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 694 View My Garage	Speak of the devil! Hey Carlos, Sorry I haven’t had a chance to call back yet.. Phones have been a bit busy today to say the least. This does look like something that could cause some leaking issues. The rust also is not normal for a “brand new” part. Do I remember you saying you bought these from American Muscle? - xxxx (I'm keeping him confidential) __________________ El gato. Mods: Eagle eye headlights, 18" Axis Sport graphite, Roto-Fab cold air intake, Vmax ported TB, 3/8" Vmax Black-Ice, RX single valve catch can, RX breather, Pedders inserts, Trifecta tune, BBK LTH 304 SS. art/ärt/Noun. Definition: 5th generation Camaro.

12-11-2013, 04:22 PM	#6
menendez1293 Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 9,686 View My Garage	The surface rust is normal around the weld points but I am curious to see what BBK has to say

12-11-2013, 11:59 PM	#8
camaro2lt Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT VR/RS CGM Rally's Join Date: May 2009 Location: Palmyra, PA Posts: 5,675 View My Garage	mine has this too....i just bought them and are ceramic coated

12-12-2013, 05:26 PM	#9
SixCyl Drives: 2010 Camaro CGM V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 694 View My Garage	That's quite a few people. I don't feel very secure about these now. __________________ El gato. Mods: Eagle eye headlights, 18" Axis Sport graphite, Roto-Fab cold air intake, Vmax ported TB, 3/8" Vmax Black-Ice, RX single valve catch can, RX breather, Pedders inserts, Trifecta tune, BBK LTH 304 SS. art/ärt/Noun. Definition: 5th generation Camaro.

12-12-2013, 08:27 PM	#10
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,967	Not saying yours are fine, but I've never ever heard of anyone having any issues with BBKs after the install. Have you heard back from them? __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

12-12-2013, 09:09 PM	#11
SixCyl Drives: 2010 Camaro CGM V6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 694 View My Garage	No not yet, and you're right I haven't either. That reminder does help, thanks KM. But I decided to check the header again and the rust is present even on the manifold side, so the rust must go the entire length of the header. I contacted autoanything and they told me call customer service for a warranty claim. __________________ El gato. Mods: Eagle eye headlights, 18" Axis Sport graphite, Roto-Fab cold air intake, Vmax ported TB, 3/8" Vmax Black-Ice, RX single valve catch can, RX breather, Pedders inserts, Trifecta tune, BBK LTH 304 SS. art/ärt/Noun. Definition: 5th generation Camaro.

12-13-2013, 11:32 AM	#12
simt3k Drives: 2011 Camaro RS 2LT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada Posts: 762	The whole bottom of my bbk headers are completely rusted out and my cats are completely covered in rust, regardless if they ceramic coated they aren't stainless steel.