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hapisok · 12-19-2013, 11:05 PM

does anybody know if the ZL1 injector will support conversion on the SS for E85? curious if they run a larger injector. looking at the cost in comparison to the ID850's.

Thanks

Iam Broke · 12-20-2013, 04:50 AM

I believe they are 52 lb, that's what came with my SLP SC kit. It would be close NA, I wouldn't risk it. I ran FIC 60's NA but needed the ZL1 pump and ADM FPCM to make it work. Pop for the ID850's and you'll have plenty of room for the future but plan on FP upgrades at any rate. E85 requires over 30% more fuel.

On corn I'm running out of FP on the Livernois twin but I'm blown at 9 psi on ID850's. Waiting on the Squash returnless fuel system to be released.

hapisok · 12-20-2013, 02:49 PM

awesome, thanks for the info. yeah, i plan on staying NA...just love the smell. they've got a decent price for the 850's right now which i want to jump on, but if i can get by with out spending more...then thats what i'd like to do. but i don't want to run the injectors above 80% either.

you think NA that i'll need a FP upgrade?

thanks Broke

VADER SS L99 · 12-20-2013, 06:48 PM

I don't think the spray pattern is optimal when staying NA on those injectors.

SIC LSX · 12-20-2013, 07:11 PM

I'm tuned on e85 with id850s with the stock fuel pump. i Haven't had any issues. Longtubes, intake and tune.

Iam Broke · 12-20-2013, 08:02 PM

I never ran the ID850's NA, had FIC 60's for awhile after being blown. Couldn't go more than 50% E until I upgraded the FP, tried the ZL1 pump, then added the ADM FPCM but still was short. Switched to the Livernois twin and 850's and just making it at 9psi.

The post 1 above this is more relevant to you being NA. You just won't know for sure until you log fuel pressure and IDC.

hapisok · 12-20-2013, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIC LSX

I'm tuned on e85 with id850s with the stock fuel pump. i Haven't had any issues. Longtubes, intake and tune.

sweet.

do you have any before and after numbers on E85? what was your gain?

SIC LSX · 12-22-2013, 12:04 AM

I actually have the flex fuel conversion but unfortunately I do not have any direct comparisons from gas to e85. One of these days I will have to do a comparison just for piece of mind.

SlowTurtle · 12-22-2013, 02:09 AM

LSA injectors spray at an angle, they will not work correctly in a regular intake.

Iam Broke · 12-22-2013, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hapisok

sweet.

do you have any before and after numbers on E85? what was your gain?

Typical E85 gains are ~5% NA.

redredrage · 12-23-2013, 01:40 PM

I question buying a zl1 only to lose your warranty by going e85, when you could have bought an ss and installed the appropriate mods for much less

snk8bte01 · 06-30-2017, 01:34 PM

any issues with that set up thus far boss??? really thinking of doing the conversion and this sounds the most cost friendly set up lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIC LSX

I'm tuned on e85 with id850s with the stock fuel pump. i Haven't had any issues. Longtubes, intake and tune.

DSX Tuning · 07-01-2017, 12:28 PM

For NA, the LSA/LS9 injectors will support full ethanol unless you have an extreme 600+ whp setup.

12-19-2013, 11:05 PM	#1
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	ZL1 injectors for E85 does anybody know if the ZL1 injector will support conversion on the SS for E85? curious if they run a larger injector. looking at the cost in comparison to the ID850's. Thanks __________________

12-20-2013, 04:50 AM	#2
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	I believe they are 52 lb, that's what came with my SLP SC kit. It would be close NA, I wouldn't risk it. I ran FIC 60's NA but needed the ZL1 pump and ADM FPCM to make it work. Pop for the ID850's and you'll have plenty of room for the future but plan on FP upgrades at any rate. E85 requires over 30% more fuel. On corn I'm running out of FP on the Livernois twin but I'm blown at 9 psi on ID850's. Waiting on the Squash returnless fuel system to be released. __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

12-20-2013, 02:49 PM	#3
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	awesome, thanks for the info. yeah, i plan on staying NA...just love the smell. they've got a decent price for the 850's right now which i want to jump on, but if i can get by with out spending more...then thats what i'd like to do. but i don't want to run the injectors above 80% either. you think NA that i'll need a FP upgrade? thanks Broke __________________

12-20-2013, 06:48 PM	#4
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I don't think the spray pattern is optimal when staying NA on those injectors. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

12-20-2013, 08:02 PM	#6
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	I never ran the ID850's NA, had FIC 60's for awhile after being blown. Couldn't go more than 50% E until I upgraded the FP, tried the ZL1 pump, then added the ADM FPCM but still was short. Switched to the Livernois twin and 850's and just making it at 9psi. The post 1 above this is more relevant to you being NA. You just won't know for sure until you log fuel pressure and IDC. __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

12-20-2013, 07:11 PM	#5
SIC LSX Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 185	I'm tuned on e85 with id850s with the stock fuel pump. i Haven't had any issues. Longtubes, intake and tune.

12-22-2013, 12:04 AM	#8
SIC LSX Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 185	I actually have the flex fuel conversion but unfortunately I do not have any direct comparisons from gas to e85. One of these days I will have to do a comparison just for piece of mind.

12-22-2013, 02:09 AM	#9
SlowTurtle Drives: camaro turtle Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: somewhere in the south Posts: 272	LSA injectors spray at an angle, they will not work correctly in a regular intake. __________________ This nick no longer in use. Please direct all future pms to 'Dietcoke'

12-23-2013, 01:40 PM	#11
redredrage Drives: 2010 Camaro SS manual all stock Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Royal Oak, MI Posts: 160	I question buying a zl1 only to lose your warranty by going e85, when you could have bought an ss and installed the appropriate mods for much less

07-01-2017, 12:28 PM	#13
DSX Tuning Drives: 2019 Corvette ZR1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 313	For NA, the LSA/LS9 injectors will support full ethanol unless you have an extreme 600+ whp setup.