Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Phastek Performance
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Members Area > General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-23-2009, 11:22 AM   #1
MuscleCarz
 
Drives: 5.4 3v
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Lake
Posts: 194
Ford posts $2.3B profit for Q2, $424M operating loss

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/23/f...loss/#comments

Quote:
Ford Motor Company is continuing to reverse its fortunes despite the globe's bleak auto markets, as the Dearborn, MI based-automaker surprised analysts with a $2.3 billion profit in the second quarter. Ford isn't dancing in the streets just yet, though, as it is still reporting $424 million in overall operating losses for the quarter. The $2.3 billion profit comes courtesy debt reduction activities taken on during the quarter, as Ford reduced its debt load by $10 billion as part of a debt-for-equity exchange, and a further $1.5 billion was raised in a stock sale. Ford says the $10 billion equity swap alone saved the company $500 million in interest expenses.

While the Blue Oval has a long way to go to get to where it wants to be, comparing numbers from the same quarter last year shows how far the automaker has come. Ford posted an $8.7 billion loss in Q2 2008, while posting a $1.4 billion operations loss.

Analysts were expecting an improvement for 2009, but the target was a 53 cent per share loss, and Ford shattered that with a loss of only 21 cents per share. Importantly, Ford has dramatically improved its cash situation too, as the company burned through only $300 million in cash. That's a huge improvement when compared to the $3.7 billion greenbacks Ford scorched in Q1. Mullaly and Co. now has $21 billion in cash on hand, down from $21.3 billion after Q1.

Ford also had good news on the production front, as its market share increased in a historically bad market. Ford increased share the right way, too, as it managed to do so despite decreasing incentive spend by $250 per vehicle compared to Q1. Ford CEO Alan Mulally sounds pretty optimistic about the company's prospects, with Q2 numbers bolstering its position.
MuscleCarz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2009, 11:31 AM   #2
Dakota Kid

 
Dakota Kid's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RJT/L99
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 1,151
Ford has a nice lineup these days.
__________________
2SS/RJT/L99
Dakota Kid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2009, 11:43 AM   #3
Unfair
Banned
 
Drives: 2001 Camaro SS
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 754
They should give GM some tips or hire a ford consultant or something jesssus
Unfair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2009, 12:00 PM   #4
Zabo
Gunning for Sixth
 
Zabo's Avatar
 
Drives: '03 ZR2 Blazer
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Woodhaven, Michigan
Posts: 9,358
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unfair View Post
They should give GM some tips or hire a ford consultant or something jesssus
Really..? I mean, really?

Yeah.. C'mon GM.
Zabo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2009, 12:03 PM   #5
Legend
Hello!
 
Legend's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 JSB Z06!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,624
Well with the GM and Chrylser in BK...most people bought Fords if they were looking for cars...I mean the average American will make decisions based on what the media tells them...so they bought Fords since they were the only one not in BK!

It's sad there are so many people like that...but it's true.

Good for Ford though...maybe the start of all three coming back strong!
Legend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2009, 12:09 PM   #6
Supermans
Camaro & Stang Enthusiast
 
Supermans's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 4,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unfair View Post
They should give GM some tips or hire a ford consultant or something jesssus
Over time, it will become apparent to the general public that there is a difference between a privately run business and a Government run entity when it comes to becoming more efficient and generating a profit. It is good that at least one privately run American car company still exists that is making wise decisions on its own without massive Government intervention.

Quote:
Originally Posted by I am Legend View Post
Well with the GM and Chrylser in BK...most people bought Fords if they were looking for cars...I mean the average American will make decisions based on what the media tells them...so they bought Fords since they were the only one not in BK!

It's sad there are so many people like that...but it's true.

Good for Ford though...maybe the start of all three coming back strong!
The media is constantly lambasting privately run business including Ford and has run many puff pieces on the new GM and how "green" they will become now that they shed some heavy gas guzzling weight.. I don't think the media has as much clout in affecting peoples decisions when they need to go out and buy a car. Advertising does make a huge difference though and Ford commercials do seem to run at a 4:1 margin when compared to GM. Toyota, Nissan and Mazda all have plenty of commercials. I rarely see any GM or Chrysler commercials anymore and in my opinion they really need to increase those to raise sales..
__________________
Bought my Camaro from Eric Hall(817) 421-7266
Supermans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2009, 03:22 PM   #7
camaro5


 
camaro5's Avatar
 
Drives: X-15 Velocipede
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 4,630
Quote:
Originally Posted by MuscleCarz View Post
This is great news for the American auto industry.




Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermans View Post
Over time, it will become apparent to the general public that there is a difference between a privately run business and a Government run entity when it comes to becoming more efficient and generating a profit. It is good that at least one privately run American car company still exists that is making wise decisions on its own without massive Government intervention.



The media is constantly lambasting privately run business including Ford and has run many puff pieces on the new GM and how "green" they will become now that they shed some heavy gas guzzling weight.. I don't think the media has as much clout in affecting peoples decisions when they need to go out and buy a car. Advertising does make a huge difference though and Ford commercials do seem to run at a 4:1 margin when compared to GM. Toyota, Nissan and Mazda all have plenty of commercials. I rarely see any GM or Chrysler commercials anymore and in my opinion they really need to increase those to raise sales..


Don't forget, GM is dead.

The NEW GM has none of the debt and legacy costs, they dumped them all through bankruptcy.

I believe we will see a profitable NEW GM when the current quarters results are revealed.

Also, if the government did not step in, we'd all be forced to buy Mustangs; GM would be complete history.
__________________
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge

General Motors ASEP, A.S. Automotive Technology, Telecommunications Specialist, CISCO Network Engineer

STANDARD DISCLAIMER
camaro5 is furnishing this information "as is". camaro5 does not provide any warranty of the information whatsoever,
whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any warranty of merchantability
or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the information will be error-free.
camaro5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 11:11 AM   #8
DGthe3
Moderator.ca
 
DGthe3's Avatar
 
Drives: 05 Grand Am GT
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Niagara, Canada
Posts: 25,366
Send a message via MSN to DGthe3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermans View Post
Over time, it will become apparent to the general public that there is a difference between a privately run business and a Government run entity when it comes to becoming more efficient and generating a profit. It is good that at least one privately run American car company still exists that is making wise decisions on its own without massive Government intervention.
Show me where GM is being run by the government. Show me anyone who makes a decision at GM who is directly responsible to the US, Canadian, or Ontario government. Last time I checked, those 3 governments had 0 voting shares. Here is a quote from Obama himself "When a difficult decision has to be made on matters like where to open a new plant or what type of new car to make, the new GM, not the United States government, will make that decision", that was on June 1st.

Owners are not always the operators. Everyone seems to agree that it is incredibly stupid to have the government run GM. This includes the people in the government and at GM. Why? Well, it would likely cause the company to eventually cease operations and be erased from landscape. Nobody involved wants that to happen because if they did, it would have happened already.
__________________
Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them
__________________
Originally Posted by FbodFather
My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors......
........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!!
__________________

Camaro Fest sub-forum
DGthe3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 12:24 PM   #9
Georgie

 
Georgie's Avatar
 
Drives: Camaro... soon
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,217
ownership give you the right to vote for directors and the residual profit interest, plus dividends if declared. the big thing is that if the government has a majority share (not sure that is the case here) they can vote in the top management they want and run the company via their selected directors. if they have no share then they can't do much in terms of voting in directors.
__________________
2011 IOM or CGM 1SS
Georgie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 08:30 PM   #10
syr74
Account Suspended
 
Drives: Thunderbird
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 951
Quote:
Originally Posted by camaro5 View Post
The NEW GM has none of the debt and legacy costs, they dumped them all through bankruptcy.

I believe we will see a profitable NEW GM when the current quarters results are revealed.

Also, if the government did not step in, we'd all be forced to buy Mustangs; GM would be complete history.
The new GM started life 10 billion dollars in debt.
syr74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 08:34 PM   #11
Xmicro_SS
Thank You GM
 
Xmicro_SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Sky Redline & Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 2,876
They were smart to downsize and resell all the foreign automakers they bought early on in the down turn. I wonder if they just bought them to steal some secrets, because their cars improved a lot since they owned, Volvo, Jag, Aston Martin, etc.
__________________
ITS HERE! : 2010 Camaro 2SS / 6 Speed Manual (No other way) / Silver Ice Metallic / Inferno Orange Interior Accent / RS Package / Polished Wheels / SOLO MACH X CAT BACK
Xmicro_SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2009, 08:57 PM   #12
MuscleCarz
 
Drives: 5.4 3v
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Lake
Posts: 194
Quote:
Originally Posted by syr74 View Post
The new GM started life 10 billion dollars in debt.
Plus the $50b they owe the gov.
MuscleCarz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FORD to break even or profit by 2011!! ArcAngel General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 9 05-15-2009 11:47 AM
Edmunds: 2010 Ford Mustang First Look Scotsman General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 32 11-23-2008 10:55 PM
Ford delays launch of new F-150 KILLER74Z28 General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 3 06-20-2008 02:37 PM
Ford Flex: Reclaiming land lost to imports, from coast to coast Scotsman General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 0 04-16-2008 01:56 AM
Financial Problems for Ford??? TAG UR IT General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 14 10-29-2006 07:17 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.