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davidjoshua11 · 11-01-2014, 12:40 AM

ok so im kinda short on $$$ atm. im rolling with Pzero all season tires with stock 20' rs wheels. u guys think sandbags in the trunk would be a good alternative for winter tires this coming winter since im running with all season tires? i know snow tires is the best options but yeah. kinda low on $$$. please help. i live at chicagoland suburbs btw.

WaboSS · 11-01-2014, 09:52 PM

I don't know how the all season p-zeros do in the snow, but I'd never recommend anyone trying to drive in cold temps, or especially in snow (even as little as 2") with the summer ones. Sandbags might help, or you might be able to find a used set of cheap winter tires that will fit on your stock wheels.

davidjoshua11 · 11-02-2014, 10:48 PM

bump. help please

MoCamaro10 · 11-03-2014, 04:20 AM

Hey, I'm in chicago too. the all season's are horrible in our cold temps, not to mention the snow. I had extra weight in my trunk as well with just 30 degree temps, and the tires were very suspect

45thCamaro · 11-03-2014, 04:33 AM

This is just my option, but I feel like the sandbags would be a bad idea. Considering the p-zeros aren't really made for snow and the fact that the rubber will be as hard as a rock you will have a hard time stopping, now you introduce extra weight in the back that would take even longer to stop. Idk how the all seasons match up compared to the summer only but why not look for a set of heritage wheels. I know your short on cash but for probably the same amount of money or less than your insurance deductible you could pick up a set and have a little more piece of mind. Good luck.

Pro Stock John · 11-03-2014, 07:39 AM

I have seen some pretty good deals on used snow tires, I think there is a set on Chicago5thgen right now.

I'm in Chicago and have Pirelli snow tires. They work great.

davidjoshua11 · 11-04-2014, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

I have seen some pretty good deals on used snow tires, I think there is a set on Chicago5thgen right now.

I'm in Chicago and have Pirelli snow tires. They work great.

do you use 20' rims?

kidhauler · 11-04-2014, 07:38 AM

You will spin out and crash that car. Don't do it. Just keep your eye out for some used ones on the forums.

-Dennis-

Pro Stock John · 11-04-2014, 09:18 AM

Remember the bad snow we got last year? Here is my car on 20" snow tires:

http://youtu.be/EkICehOJJ2k?list=UUB...jbrEY6_GEkcCJg

another vid:
http://youtu.be/vbaQfHymjCQ?list=UUB...jbrEY6_GEkcCJg

one more:
http://youtu.be/myuFb_kwCA0?list=UUB...jbrEY6_GEkcCJg

Mr_Draco · 11-04-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by davidjoshua11

ok so im kinda short on $$$ atm. im rolling with Pzero all season tires with stock 20' rs wheels. u guys think sandbags in the trunk would be a good alternative for winter tires this coming winter since im running with all season tires? i know snow tires is the best options but yeah. kinda low on $$$. please help. i live at chicagoland suburbs btw.

Imo, all season tires on a two wheel drive car is only good for light snows (2" max) regardless of the brand or the weight in the back. Anymore than that and you pretty much need snow tires.

Rudy@Tirerack · 11-04-2014, 05:56 PM

You're 20 inch Pirelli tires are NOT all season. Putting sandbags in the trunk will do nothing we these tires. You are going to need snow tires or do not drive the car when it snows. The factory 20 inch Pirell's are SUMMER tires. Just a heads up.

smarbrit · 11-04-2014, 06:10 PM

Agree with all the above!!! I got caught on performance tires on a different car a few years ago - I've never in my life been as scared as I was trying to get home from work. Could not move on ice, even sliding when stopped - front wheel drive, manual 5 speed. We get crazy weather and can go from +15 celcius to -20 in hours. Imagine what the roads are like - light rain to ice. It took me 4 hours to go 20 kms, I finally pulled into a shopping centre and called for a ride. It wasn't just me who got caught, the entire city came to an abrupt halt as this storm hit during rush hour. Busses were sideways trying to get up hills, cars everywhere. Called the dealer the next day, ordered snow tires and had them installed in time for the next storm a week later - made a world of difference!!!! Thankfully I did not cause or get involved in any accidents that day.

I have snows on my SS and have not required sandbags in the trunk over the last 2 winters. The traction control will keep the car straight on a start, 2nd gear starts may be required, but I have not had any issues driving over the winter. Get proper tires and the car will handle fine. This time of year looking for used set ups can be challenging, but worth it as it will save you a bit, but you'll be replacing them sooner!!! good luck!

11-01-2014, 12:40 AM	#1
davidjoshua11 Drives: 2011 summit white 1LT RS Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: United States Posts: 69	winter tires alternative ok so im kinda short on $$$ atm. im rolling with Pzero all season tires with stock 20' rs wheels. u guys think sandbags in the trunk would be a good alternative for winter tires this coming winter since im running with all season tires? i know snow tires is the best options but yeah. kinda low on $$$. please help. i live at chicagoland suburbs btw.

11-01-2014, 09:52 PM	#2
WaboSS Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: AA, MD Posts: 50 View My Garage	I don't know how the all season p-zeros do in the snow, but I'd never recommend anyone trying to drive in cold temps, or especially in snow (even as little as 2") with the summer ones. Sandbags might help, or you might be able to find a used set of cheap winter tires that will fit on your stock wheels. __________________ Retired: 1987 Cavalier RS 1990 Beretta GT 1993 Cavalier Z24 1987 Formula Firebird 1995 Ford Probe GT 1995 Camaro Z28 2000 Camaro SS 2003 Monte Carlo SS 2011 1LT Camaro 2013 2SSRS Camaro

11-03-2014, 07:39 AM	#6
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,221	I have seen some pretty good deals on used snow tires, I think there is a set on Chicago5thgen right now. I'm in Chicago and have Pirelli snow tires. They work great. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

11-04-2014, 07:38 AM	#8
kidhauler Drives: 2014 2LT/RS Silver Ice Metallic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Haverhill, MA Posts: 70	You will spin out and crash that car. Don't do it. Just keep your eye out for some used ones on the forums. -Dennis- __________________ 2014 Camaro 2LT +RS Silver Ice - 55W HID Fogs, RotoFab CAI 2009 G8 V6 PBM mid-muffler and resonator delete, Magnaflow x-pipe, Rotofab CAI, GT Brake upgrade w/slotted rotors, partial debage

11-04-2014, 09:18 AM	#9
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,221	Remember the bad snow we got last year? Here is my car on 20" snow tires: http://youtu.be/EkICehOJJ2k?list=UUB...jbrEY6_GEkcCJg another vid: http://youtu.be/vbaQfHymjCQ?list=UUB...jbrEY6_GEkcCJg one more: http://youtu.be/myuFb_kwCA0?list=UUB...jbrEY6_GEkcCJg __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

11-02-2014, 10:48 PM	#3
davidjoshua11 Drives: 2011 summit white 1LT RS Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: United States Posts: 69	bump. help please

11-03-2014, 04:20 AM	#4
MoCamaro10 Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange Camaro Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 88	Hey, I'm in chicago too. the all season's are horrible in our cold temps, not to mention the snow. I had extra weight in my trunk as well with just 30 degree temps, and the tires were very suspect

11-03-2014, 04:33 AM	#5
45thCamaro Drives: 2012 Camaro 45th Anniversary RS Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New York Posts: 2,417	This is just my option, but I feel like the sandbags would be a bad idea. Considering the p-zeros aren't really made for snow and the fact that the rubber will be as hard as a rock you will have a hard time stopping, now you introduce extra weight in the back that would take even longer to stop. Idk how the all seasons match up compared to the summer only but why not look for a set of heritage wheels. I know your short on cash but for probably the same amount of money or less than your insurance deductible you could pick up a set and have a little more piece of mind. Good luck.

11-04-2014, 05:56 PM	#11
Rudy@Tirerack Drives: 1-800-428-8355 X4664 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: rudy@tirerack.com Posts: 1,186	You're 20 inch Pirelli tires are NOT all season. Putting sandbags in the trunk will do nothing we these tires. You are going to need snow tires or do not drive the car when it snows. The factory 20 inch Pirell's are SUMMER tires. Just a heads up. Last edited by Rudy@Tirerack; 11-05-2014 at 10:32 AM.

11-04-2014, 06:10 PM	#12
smarbrit Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS IOM Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 771	Agree with all the above!!! I got caught on performance tires on a different car a few years ago - I've never in my life been as scared as I was trying to get home from work. Could not move on ice, even sliding when stopped - front wheel drive, manual 5 speed. We get crazy weather and can go from +15 celcius to -20 in hours. Imagine what the roads are like - light rain to ice. It took me 4 hours to go 20 kms, I finally pulled into a shopping centre and called for a ride. It wasn't just me who got caught, the entire city came to an abrupt halt as this storm hit during rush hour. Busses were sideways trying to get up hills, cars everywhere. Called the dealer the next day, ordered snow tires and had them installed in time for the next storm a week later - made a world of difference!!!! Thankfully I did not cause or get involved in any accidents that day. I have snows on my SS and have not required sandbags in the trunk over the last 2 winters. The traction control will keep the car straight on a start, 2nd gear starts may be required, but I have not had any issues driving over the winter. Get proper tires and the car will handle fine. This time of year looking for used set ups can be challenging, but worth it as it will save you a bit, but you'll be replacing them sooner!!! good luck!