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14ZL1M6 · 01-05-2015, 04:14 PM

What kind of boost is a LS9 blower capable of on a LSA engine? I have an opportunity to pick one up for a decent price from a buddy that is taking it off his ZR1.

Thanks

white1LE · 01-05-2015, 07:21 PM

Jess!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're Up. Lol

smokum · 01-05-2015, 07:30 PM

Calling jess. Are you out there. Lol.

vatechguy3 · 01-05-2015, 08:25 PM

If you pass it up, let us know.
pleanty of folks on here would want it.

Tony

pktrusty · 01-05-2015, 09:27 PM

Following

jessrayo · 01-06-2015, 10:07 AM

Boost is a measure of restriction. When I put the LS9 on my car it had a 427, radical camshaft, trickflow heads, oversize valves, long tube headers. It was a very good flowing motor so the max boost we ever saw with the LS9 was around 15 pounds. I'm guessing at 23,000 rpm it would make about 19 or 20 pounds on a stock motor.

The main problem with the LS9 is you have to have the Lingenfelter snout adapter to run it on a LSA motor. Those may be hard to find because it is my understanding that Lingenfelter stopped production of that snout when the Heartbeat blower came out because the Heartbeat made more power for less money.

The LS9 is a little better blower than the LSA but unless you get it for next to nothing it is not worth the costs in my opinion to convert your system. It does not handle over-rev as good as the 1.9 does. When it gets to the rpm limit it hits a wall and gets so hot you have to back off.

I say port the 1.9 and pulley it up, get bigger reservoirs and pumps and heat exchangers and when you max out the 1.9 then swap directly to the heartbeat.

14ZL1M6 · 01-06-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

Boost is a measure of restriction. When I put the LS9 on my car it had a 427, radical camshaft, trickflow heads, oversize valves, long tube headers. It was a very good flowing motor so the max boost we ever saw with the LS9 was around 15 pounds. I'm guessing at 23,000 rpm it would make about 19 or 20 pounds on a stock motor.

The main problem with the LS9 is you have to have the Lingenfelter snout adapter to run it on a LSA motor. Those may be hard to find because it is my understanding that Lingenfelter stopped production of that snout when the Heartbeat blower came out because the Heartbeat made more power for less money.

The LS9 is a little better blower than the LSA but unless you get it for next to nothing it is not worth the costs in my opinion to convert your system. It does not handle over-rev as good as the 1.9 does. When it gets to the rpm limit it hits a wall and gets so hot you have to back off.

I say port the 1.9 and pulley it up, get bigger reservoirs and pumps and heat exchangers and when you max out the 1.9 then swap directly to the heartbeat.

Thanks for the info and advice Jessrayo! What are your thoughts on the 2.8 Kenne Bell?

jessrayo · 01-06-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 14ZL1M6

Thanks for the info and advice Jessrayo! What are your thoughts on the 2.8 Kenne Bell?

Kenne Bell blowers just do not have the bearing reliability or the cooling capacity that any of the other blower manufacturers have... and they are famous for being difficult to get support and parts from. If I was going to put a Kenne Bell on my car it would definitely not be the 2.8. Yes the KB 2.8 can make more boost than the 1.9 on a 3 second dyno pull but it will have more heat issues. If I was going to put on a KB it would be the 4.2 so I could could get the boost with much lower rpm thereby prolonging bearing life and reducing heat related to rpm.

With the other alternatives I just don't see that a KB is a good option on a Camaro when you consider costs. If real big power numbers are your goal, you would be better off buying the AGP turbo kit and selling the stock blower.

Dutchman427 · 01-06-2015, 01:08 PM

Good Thread. Thanks for the information Jess.

Trackman · 01-06-2015, 07:55 PM

What Jess said.

smokum · 01-06-2015, 07:59 PM

What trackman said. Lol.

14ZL1M6 · 01-07-2015, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

Kenne Bell blowers just do not have the bearing reliability or the cooling capacity that any of the other blower manufacturers have... and they are famous for being difficult to get support and parts from. If I was going to put a Kenne Bell on my car it would definitely not be the 2.8. Yes the KB 2.8 can make more boost than the 1.9 on a 3 second dyno pull but it will have more heat issues. If I was going to put on a KB it would be the 4.2 so I could could get the boost with much lower rpm thereby prolonging bearing life and reducing heat related to rpm.

With the other alternatives I just don't see that a KB is a good option on a Camaro when you consider costs. If real big power numbers are your goal, you would be better off buying the AGP turbo kit and selling the stock blower.

Appreciate the insight Jessrayo! I think I'm liking the TT idea! I just so happen to have in my possession a Holley Hi Ram w/105mm TB for an LS3 in my basement....Might be time to use it! Lol

14ZL1M6 · 02-18-2015, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessrayo

Boost is a measure of restriction. When I put the LS9 on my car it had a 427, radical camshaft, trickflow heads, oversize valves, long tube headers. It was a very good flowing motor so the max boost we ever saw with the LS9 was around 15 pounds. I'm guessing at 23,000 rpm it would make about 19 or 20 pounds on a stock motor.

The main problem with the LS9 is you have to have the Lingenfelter snout adapter to run it on a LSA motor. Those may be hard to find because it is my understanding that Lingenfelter stopped production of that snout when the Heartbeat blower came out because the Heartbeat made more power for less money.

The LS9 is a little better blower than the LSA but unless you get it for next to nothing it is not worth the costs in my opinion to convert your system. It does not handle over-rev as good as the 1.9 does. When it gets to the rpm limit it hits a wall and gets so hot you have to back off.

I say port the 1.9 and pulley it up, get bigger reservoirs and pumps and heat exchangers and when you max out the 1.9 then swap directly to the heartbeat.

Jess,

So, I ended up picking up this LS9 blower for a price I could not pass up. Now in search of a Lingenfelter snout...Haha. What kind of horsepower will this thing make on a built motor with the blower maxed out and possibly on E85 or Meth? What RPM is considered maxed (pulley combo)...23,000?

Thanks

Signalman54 · 02-18-2015, 04:01 PM

I'm using a LS9 blower on my ZL1 m6 w/Lingenfelter snout and 700 hp package with a forged 376 ci motor. Blower pulleys 2.55/8.25 =21000 rpms on a LPE 93 octane tune. It made 752 rwhp /727 rwtq at 16 lbs of boost peak.

01-05-2015, 04:14 PM	#1
14ZL1M6 Drives: 2015 ZL1 Coupe A6 & 2002 ZO6 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 246	LS9 Blower What kind of boost is a LS9 blower capable of on a LSA engine? I have an opportunity to pick one up for a decent price from a buddy that is taking it off his ZR1. Thanks

01-05-2015, 07:21 PM	#2
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01-06-2015, 10:07 AM	#6
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	Boost is a measure of restriction. When I put the LS9 on my car it had a 427, radical camshaft, trickflow heads, oversize valves, long tube headers. It was a very good flowing motor so the max boost we ever saw with the LS9 was around 15 pounds. I'm guessing at 23,000 rpm it would make about 19 or 20 pounds on a stock motor. The main problem with the LS9 is you have to have the Lingenfelter snout adapter to run it on a LSA motor. Those may be hard to find because it is my understanding that Lingenfelter stopped production of that snout when the Heartbeat blower came out because the Heartbeat made more power for less money. The LS9 is a little better blower than the LSA but unless you get it for next to nothing it is not worth the costs in my opinion to convert your system. It does not handle over-rev as good as the 1.9 does. When it gets to the rpm limit it hits a wall and gets so hot you have to back off. I say port the 1.9 and pulley it up, get bigger reservoirs and pumps and heat exchangers and when you max out the 1.9 then swap directly to the heartbeat. Attached Images __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.

01-05-2015, 07:30 PM	#3
smokum Drives: 2010 2ssrs Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 828 View My Garage	Calling jess. Are you out there. Lol.

01-05-2015, 09:27 PM	#5
pktrusty Drives: 2013 ZL1- 850 JDP Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Sandy, Utah Posts: 75 View My Garage	Following

01-06-2015, 01:08 PM	#9
Dutchman427 Drives: 2012 ZL1 #1329 M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 1,040	Good Thread. Thanks for the information Jess.

01-06-2015, 07:55 PM	#10
Trackman Drives: 67RS Camaro ,Black 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,409	What Jess said.

01-06-2015, 07:59 PM	#11
smokum Drives: 2010 2ssrs Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 828 View My Garage	What trackman said. Lol.

02-18-2015, 04:01 PM	#14
Signalman54 Drives: 2013 Ashen Gray m6 ZL1 camaro Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 16 View My Garage	I'm using a LS9 blower on my ZL1 m6 w/Lingenfelter snout and 700 hp package with a forged 376 ci motor. Blower pulleys 2.55/8.25 =21000 rpms on a LPE 93 octane tune. It made 752 rwhp /727 rwtq at 16 lbs of boost peak.