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Powellbr · 01-21-2015, 03:31 PM

Hey guys, as the name says, I was wondering how the handling and ride feel is after upgrading the suspension and adding a Hotchkiss strut tower brace and sub-frame connectors from Granetteli Motorsports. I'll be going with BMR rear toe rods, trailing arms, lower control arms, bushings, adjustable sway bars, and motor mounts with the aluminum bushings. Here are links to all:
Control arms: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...023&superpro=0
Bushings: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...172&superpro=0
Toe rods: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...483&superpro=0
Trailing arms: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...041&superpro=0
Sway bars: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...164&superpro=0
Strut tower brace:http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...ace-500076.htm
Sub-frame connectors:http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...ace-500076.htm
Motor mounts: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...d=75&catid=325

BMR Sales · 01-21-2015, 04:25 PM

Thanks for your support. I'm sure you will be happy with our products and the way they ride & handle. I'm not a fan of that Granatelli kit - too thin of tubing spread over too large of an area and trying to do much. Our Subframe Connectors are a lot less expensive and stronger.

What will you be doing with the car? I

JDP Sales · 01-21-2015, 04:58 PM

Good setup for sure, but I'd skip the under-bracing. The 5th Gen chassis is already very rigid and the bracing will basically only be adding on extra weight.

What year is your car and what will you be doing with it?

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

rockrau · 01-21-2015, 05:48 PM

I do not think any of the road course guys use any under carriage bracing, and many have not added a strut tower brace. $0.02

Dan@Hotchkis · 01-21-2015, 05:50 PM

We made ours out of elliptical aluminum tubing for those exact reasons. The added chassis rigidity without the added weight. The chassis exhibits a lot of flex under launch and cornering loads and our connectors reduce that flex pretty dramatically.

Powellbr · 01-21-2015, 08:22 PM

Itll be used as a combo dd & drag car,both strip & street ,also should mention ill be puttin in a 10-point chromoly cage

Powellbr · 01-21-2015, 08:23 PM

Thanks for the info about granetelli, I'll look @ yours when I get a moment

Powellbr · 01-22-2015, 09:55 AM

So I've taken a look at the hotchkis braces and they look a whole hella better than the granetelli.

Powellbr · 01-22-2015, 04:01 PM

With probably 1500+ horsepower, how's the ride gonna be? Is it gonna be rough or almost like stock (or as close to stock 1500+ horsepower can be) but extremely athletic? I'll be using the firmest setting on the sway bars also because I know that'll make a difference at higher speeds & in the corners.

Dan@Hotchkis · 01-22-2015, 04:27 PM

Can't rightly say. I don't know of or have any personal experience with cars using our product with that much power. Most of the higher power cars are in the 400-600rwhp and benefit quite a bit from our bracing.

As to the sway bar settings, they are adjustable to handle a variety of track surfaces and driving styles/preferences. Going full max right out off the bat may cause the vehicle to have an unfavorable handling characteristic, or it might be perfect.

Nighthawk89 · 01-22-2015, 04:44 PM

FMT solid subframe bushing are a nice addition..

Here is some pictures of some of the parts and the build i just completed

Powellbr · 01-22-2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan@Hotchkis

Can't rightly say. I don't know of or have any personal experience with cars using our product with that much power. Most of the higher power cars are in the 400-600rwhp and benefit quite a bit from our bracing.

As to the sway bar settings, they are adjustable to handle a variety of track surfaces and driving styles/preferences. Going full max right out off the bat may cause the vehicle to have an unfavorable handling characteristic, or it might be perfect.

Ok, also I got to lookin on PhastrkPerformance and was wondering if it'd be possible to use the ARH floor plan brace, the hotchkis sub frame braces, and the G5 front subframe brace all together?

Dan@Hotchkis · 01-22-2015, 09:46 PM

I'm not sure. You'd want to ask that seller/installer if they have mixed and matched those pieces before. We generally don't do cross manufacturer fitment unless it's a non-competing aftermarket component, like a supercharger or exhaust.

Powellbr · 01-23-2015, 03:23 PM

Ok, so I got to looking at the parts and an image of the undercarriage (still waiting to get my Camaro sadly

) and it looks like you could use the G5 brace with the hotchkis set 'cause the G5 stiffens the front subframe. Still waiting to hear back from ARH on whether or not they've had anyone do it and if they've had any success doing it.

01-21-2015, 03:31 PM	#1
Powellbr Drives: '99 Mitsubishi Mirage de coupe Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Carbon, UT Posts: 142	Handling after upgrading suspension Hey guys, as the name says, I was wondering how the handling and ride feel is after upgrading the suspension and adding a Hotchkiss strut tower brace and sub-frame connectors from Granetteli Motorsports. I'll be going with BMR rear toe rods, trailing arms, lower control arms, bushings, adjustable sway bars, and motor mounts with the aluminum bushings. Here are links to all: Control arms: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...023&superpro=0 Bushings: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...172&superpro=0 Toe rods: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...483&superpro=0 Trailing arms: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...041&superpro=0 Sway bars: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...164&superpro=0 Strut tower brace:http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...ace-500076.htm Sub-frame connectors:http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...ace-500076.htm Motor mounts: http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...d=75&catid=325

01-21-2015, 05:48 PM	#4
rockrau Drives: 2010 2ss red LS3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: perkasie pa Posts: 541	I do not think any of the road course guys use any under carriage bracing, and many have not added a strut tower brace. $0.02 __________________ Pedders Pace Car Kit with ZL1 sway bar conversion & camber bolt kit.Lowered 1.5". 1LE tires & wheels. CAI air intake. Anvil CF rear spoiler.MGW shifter. 1 7/8" Kooks LT headers & HF cats.V-Max ported TB. Tuned.

01-21-2015, 08:23 PM	#7
Powellbr Drives: '99 Mitsubishi Mirage de coupe Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Carbon, UT Posts: 142	Thanks for the info about granetelli, I'll look @ yours when I get a moment Last edited by Powellbr; 01-22-2015 at 09:54 AM.

01-22-2015, 04:44 PM	#11
Nighthawk89 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2Ss M6 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,013	FMT solid subframe bushing are a nice addition.. Here is some pictures of some of the parts and the build i just completed Attached Images

01-23-2015, 03:23 PM	#14
Powellbr Drives: '99 Mitsubishi Mirage de coupe Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Carbon, UT Posts: 142	Ok, so I got to looking at the parts and an image of the undercarriage (still waiting to get my Camaro sadly) and it looks like you could use the G5 brace with the hotchkis set 'cause the G5 stiffens the front subframe. Still waiting to hear back from ARH on whether or not they've had anyone do it and if they've had any success doing it.

01-21-2015, 04:25 PM	#2
BMR Sales Drives: Race Car Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seffner, FL Posts: 6,226	Thanks for your support. I'm sure you will be happy with our products and the way they ride & handle. I'm not a fan of that Granatelli kit - too thin of tubing spread over too large of an area and trying to do much. Our Subframe Connectors are a lot less expensive and stronger. What will you be doing with the car? I

01-21-2015, 04:58 PM	#3
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	Good setup for sure, but I'd skip the under-bracing. The 5th Gen chassis is already very rigid and the bracing will basically only be adding on extra weight. What year is your car and what will you be doing with it? Best regards, Tyler 888-308-6007

01-21-2015, 05:50 PM	#5
Dan@Hotchkis 1 Drives: Whatever is available! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Santa Fe Springs, CA Posts: 45	We made ours out of elliptical aluminum tubing for those exact reasons. The added chassis rigidity without the added weight. The chassis exhibits a lot of flex under launch and cornering loads and our connectors reduce that flex pretty dramatically.

01-21-2015, 08:22 PM	#6
Powellbr Drives: '99 Mitsubishi Mirage de coupe Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Carbon, UT Posts: 142	Itll be used as a combo dd & drag car,both strip & street ,also should mention ill be puttin in a 10-point chromoly cage

01-22-2015, 09:55 AM	#8
Powellbr Drives: '99 Mitsubishi Mirage de coupe Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Carbon, UT Posts: 142	So I've taken a look at the hotchkis braces and they look a whole hella better than the granetelli.

01-22-2015, 04:01 PM	#9
Powellbr Drives: '99 Mitsubishi Mirage de coupe Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Carbon, UT Posts: 142	With probably 1500+ horsepower, how's the ride gonna be? Is it gonna be rough or almost like stock (or as close to stock 1500+ horsepower can be) but extremely athletic? I'll be using the firmest setting on the sway bars also because I know that'll make a difference at higher speeds & in the corners.

01-22-2015, 04:27 PM	#10
Dan@Hotchkis 1 Drives: Whatever is available! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Santa Fe Springs, CA Posts: 45	Can't rightly say. I don't know of or have any personal experience with cars using our product with that much power. Most of the higher power cars are in the 400-600rwhp and benefit quite a bit from our bracing. As to the sway bar settings, they are adjustable to handle a variety of track surfaces and driving styles/preferences. Going full max right out off the bat may cause the vehicle to have an unfavorable handling characteristic, or it might be perfect.

01-22-2015, 09:46 PM	#13
Dan@Hotchkis 1 Drives: Whatever is available! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Santa Fe Springs, CA Posts: 45	I'm not sure. You'd want to ask that seller/installer if they have mixed and matched those pieces before. We generally don't do cross manufacturer fitment unless it's a non-competing aftermarket component, like a supercharger or exhaust.