Anyone NOT run with a catch can? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

harmonyp · 02-19-2015, 09:30 AM

I'm new to owning a supercharged car. Every time a catch can comes up in this forum, which is a LOT, says - it's a MUST have, and the sooner the better.

Curious how many people have NOT installed catch can's on their ZL1s. Any issues?

cal45 · 02-19-2015, 09:56 AM

Well, I'm not.....yet as I just bought my 2015 ZL1 this past Sunday. I do have one on order and a Rotofab CAI as they are the two must haves per fellow ZL1 owners here. These will probably be the only mods I add as this is my daily driver.

MaroSS · 02-19-2015, 10:20 AM

I haven't installed one on mine yet, I only have 2,770 miles but I am on the fence about it. Of course no issues, its a brand new car lol.

mmarx82 · 02-19-2015, 10:25 AM

Contrary to what your asking, I do have one. Needing one, not needing one, I couldn't say. The pictures I've seen though do speak for themselves. I empty it at every oil change and usually remove about 1/4 of a cup.

Jeb114 · 02-19-2015, 10:40 AM

I don't have one 8000 miles no problems. All stock.....

HDRDTD · 02-19-2015, 10:45 AM

2013, 22,000 miles, no catch can, no problems.

jaymoo7 · 02-19-2015, 10:59 AM

Over 58k and no catch can, All stock.

TripleBlkZL1 · 02-19-2015, 11:06 AM

35,000 miles and no catch can

jessrayo · 02-19-2015, 12:18 PM

I didn't have one until I blew a rear seal. I kind of think it really isn't that big of a deal for the car to burn that gunk and you have to run a lot of oil through your supercharger before it affects the performance. I have had 3 supercharged cars and have a total of probably 120,000 miles on the 3 cars. I never had a catch can on the first 2 and probably still would not have one if I didn't have excess crankcase pressure on my highly boosted motor. I kind of think the cans draw out more gunk than passes the standard pcv which makes it look very important. The supercharger has been on and off my ZL1 many times with no indication there is any gunk getting on it at all. I kind of think it just gives you something else you have to watch. I suspect if you put 100,000+ miles on the engine and supercharger you would have some discoloration in the supercharger from the recycling of oil vapors but in the absence of another problem I don't think it will affect performance much. I honestly go through a lot of cars and engines and don't see me ever owning anything long enough that that can is going to make a difference. That is my opinion. If I thought I would keep the car until I die it would probably be a good idea. I don't think I have ever had a car more than 5 or 6 years.

ZED SLED · 02-19-2015, 01:06 PM

This post w/pic of a ZL1 blower is from Rx in one of the catch can threads, so it may be just a little embellished. They were, after all, in the business of selling catch cans.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...15&postcount=8

titanfan · 02-19-2015, 01:09 PM

I've owned a dozen or supercharged vehicles and I have NEVER ran a catch can. IMHO, they are a waste of money and do nothing to add to the longevity the drivetrain. Cars that come from the factory with a supercharged engine are engineered for them. I would not say the same holds true for cars that came with n/a engines and where an aftermarket supercharger was added.

jessrayo · 02-19-2015, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

This post w/pic of a ZL1 blower is from Rx in one of the catch can threads, so it may be just a little embellished. They were, after all, in the business of selling catch cans.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...15&postcount=8

Yeah I've seen those photos but I have never seen a cooling brick like that. I suspect that engine had some other problems...

lbls1 · 02-19-2015, 01:48 PM

I don't have one. Will it void the warranty?

JDP Sales · 02-19-2015, 01:58 PM

Catch cans are not snake oil guys.. They truly work and do exactly as they are supposed to do. May be hard to take my word, being that I'm a vendor, but if you have seen some of the gunk/buildup we've seen you would be a believer. There's a reason we include them in all of our packages and use them on our personal cars.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

02-19-2015, 09:30 AM	#1
harmonyp Drives: 2015 ZL1 Silver Ice Metallic Manual Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: NorCal Posts: 249	Anyone NOT run with a catch can? I'm new to owning a supercharged car. Every time a catch can comes up in this forum, which is a LOT, says - it's a MUST have, and the sooner the better. Curious how many people have NOT installed catch can's on their ZL1s. Any issues?

02-19-2015, 10:20 AM	#3
MaroSS ZL1 Drives: 10' SS/RS - Sold; 15' White ZL1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Harbor City, CA Posts: 682 View My Garage	I haven't installed one on mine yet, I only have 2,770 miles but I am on the fence about it. Of course no issues, its a brand new car lol. __________________

02-19-2015, 10:25 AM	#4
mmarx82 Drives: '12 ZL1 #1609 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,762	Contrary to what your asking, I do have one. Needing one, not needing one, I couldn't say. The pictures I've seen though do speak for themselves. I empty it at every oil change and usually remove about 1/4 of a cup. __________________ Life is too short to drive cars that suck. My build Thread

02-19-2015, 11:06 AM	#8
TripleBlkZL1 Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 & 18 2500HD Duramax Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 733 View My Garage	35,000 miles and no catch can __________________ Procharged 2018 ZL1 A10 2018 2500HD Duramax

02-19-2015, 12:18 PM	#9
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	I didn't have one until I blew a rear seal. I kind of think it really isn't that big of a deal for the car to burn that gunk and you have to run a lot of oil through your supercharger before it affects the performance. I have had 3 supercharged cars and have a total of probably 120,000 miles on the 3 cars. I never had a catch can on the first 2 and probably still would not have one if I didn't have excess crankcase pressure on my highly boosted motor. I kind of think the cans draw out more gunk than passes the standard pcv which makes it look very important. The supercharger has been on and off my ZL1 many times with no indication there is any gunk getting on it at all. I kind of think it just gives you something else you have to watch. I suspect if you put 100,000+ miles on the engine and supercharger you would have some discoloration in the supercharger from the recycling of oil vapors but in the absence of another problem I don't think it will affect performance much. I honestly go through a lot of cars and engines and don't see me ever owning anything long enough that that can is going to make a difference. That is my opinion. If I thought I would keep the car until I die it would probably be a good idea. I don't think I have ever had a car more than 5 or 6 years. __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.

02-19-2015, 09:56 AM	#2
cal45 Drives: 2015 Blue Velvet Metallic ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Orlando & Flagler Beach,FL Posts: 1,453	Well, I'm not.....yet as I just bought my 2015 ZL1 this past Sunday. I do have one on order and a Rotofab CAI as they are the two must haves per fellow ZL1 owners here. These will probably be the only mods I add as this is my daily driver.

02-19-2015, 10:40 AM	#5
Jeb114 Drives: 2021 300 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New Jersey Posts: 968	I don't have one 8000 miles no problems. All stock.....

02-19-2015, 10:45 AM	#6
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,046	2013, 22,000 miles, no catch can, no problems.

02-19-2015, 10:59 AM	#7
jaymoo7 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 A6 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Slidell, La Posts: 248	Over 58k and no catch can, All stock.

02-19-2015, 01:06 PM	#10
ZED SLED Drives: 2017 Mosaic Bk ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South of Raleigh, NC Posts: 9,615 View My Garage	This post w/pic of a ZL1 blower is from Rx in one of the catch can threads, so it may be just a little embellished. They were, after all, in the business of selling catch cans. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...15&postcount=8 __________________

02-19-2015, 01:09 PM	#11
titanfan Account Suspended Drives: Several in a big garage Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Nashville Posts: 628	I've owned a dozen or supercharged vehicles and I have NEVER ran a catch can. IMHO, they are a waste of money and do nothing to add to the longevity the drivetrain. Cars that come from the factory with a supercharged engine are engineered for them. I would not say the same holds true for cars that came with n/a engines and where an aftermarket supercharger was added.

02-19-2015, 01:48 PM	#13
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,071	I don't have one. Will it void the warranty? __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic* '25 Silverado 1500 High Country 6.2L

02-19-2015, 01:58 PM	#14
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	Catch cans are not snake oil guys.. They truly work and do exactly as they are supposed to do. May be hard to take my word, being that I'm a vendor, but if you have seen some of the gunk/buildup we've seen you would be a believer. There's a reason we include them in all of our packages and use them on our personal cars. Best regards, Tyler 888-308-6007