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1KillerSS · 06-02-2015, 04:13 PM

For those of you running an MSD 2351 BAP, What voltage are you running? I have heard that there is a max voltage and not to go past that. Wondering what that is. I am running Livernois dual pumps. So far my highest voltage is 17.

Also is it necessary to ramp in the voltage or can I just kick it in where I want it?

AGP Turbo · 06-02-2015, 04:37 PM

19v

been working fine, long term
Been running 21v in a test car just to see if it will actually burn out the pump.

1KillerSS · 06-02-2015, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

19v

been working fine, long term
Been running 21v in a test car just to see if it will actually burn out the pump.

I ramped it to 19 from 17 and still have FP issues...WTF I either am doing something wrong or my pids are wrong.

Orange wire to fuse block, red wire to FPCM.

Bo White · 06-02-2015, 06:44 PM

Ramp it so there is no shock to the pump. 17v is the "safe" amount. Some go 19v like was said.

1KillerSS · 06-02-2015, 06:53 PM

This is at 19 volts, should have FP like this?

This was the best of three runs before the laptop battery died, but its actually as low as 47.

AGP Turbo · 06-02-2015, 07:10 PM

You're using up all the fuel in that darn engine!!! If FP goes any lower you're going to need more pump. The dual CTSv pumps are two small pumps, only worth a little more power than a ZL1.

1KillerSS · 06-02-2015, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

You're using up all the fuel in that darn engine!!! If FP goes any lower you're going to need more pump.

That's pretty much saying the same thing as if I go any higher on the boost, I'll need more pump. Thats a bummer

Was really hoping to get better than 800 out of my dual pump setup.

Thanks for all the help, as usual, you guys take good care of me.

AGP Turbo · 06-02-2015, 07:26 PM

I thought that pump with a booster was supposed to be good for 850whp.
Maybe it's the trims inside the FPCM latency ramping up to full duty. Maybe try wiring the MSD with constant power to the orange wire. That way the FPCM won't forget to go strait to 100%.

1KillerSS · 06-02-2015, 07:28 PM

I thought the same, but I'm not following you about what to try.

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Bo White · 06-02-2015, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

You're using up all the fuel in that darn engine!!! If FP goes any lower you're going to need more pump. The dual CTSv pumps are two small pumps, only worth a little more power than a ZL1.

Exactly right.
Im at 680rwhp with LPE kit and FIC850s pushing 100%
My BAP should put me into a more safer 85ish%

06-02-2015, 04:13 PM	#1
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	MSD BAP Max Voltage?? For those of you running an MSD 2351 BAP, What voltage are you running? I have heard that there is a max voltage and not to go past that. Wondering what that is. I am running Livernois dual pumps. So far my highest voltage is 17. Also is it necessary to ramp in the voltage or can I just kick it in where I want it? Attached Images __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

06-02-2015, 06:44 PM	#4
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,094	Ramp it so there is no shock to the pump. 17v is the "safe" amount. Some go 19v like was said. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

06-02-2015, 06:53 PM	#5
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	This is at 19 volts, should have FP like this? This was the best of three runs before the laptop battery died, but its actually as low as 47. Attached Images __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855 Last edited by 1KillerSS; 06-03-2015 at 03:49 PM.

06-02-2015, 07:28 PM	#9
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	I thought the same, but I'm not following you about what to try. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

06-02-2015, 04:37 PM	#2
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	19v been working fine, long term Been running 21v in a test car just to see if it will actually burn out the pump.

06-02-2015, 07:10 PM	#6
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	You're using up all the fuel in that darn engine!!! If FP goes any lower you're going to need more pump. The dual CTSv pumps are two small pumps, only worth a little more power than a ZL1.

06-02-2015, 07:26 PM	#8
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	I thought that pump with a booster was supposed to be good for 850whp. Maybe it's the trims inside the FPCM latency ramping up to full duty. Maybe try wiring the MSD with constant power to the orange wire. That way the FPCM won't forget to go strait to 100%.