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2010_camaro · 06-26-2015, 12:27 AM

What all do i need to run E85 safely on my superchargerd ls3?

blake-b · 06-26-2015, 12:29 AM

Flex fuel setup (sensor and wiring) Dave Steck sells a plug and play kit
and, depending on where your power level is now and what fuel system you have, you will likely need:
bigger injectors
more fuel pump (and/or a boost a pump)
and enabling flexfuel in your tune

2010SSRSM6 · 06-26-2015, 01:39 AM

What Blake said

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2010_camaro · 06-26-2015, 03:57 AM

Well I'm making 610 to the wheel on stock fuel pump with out any type of boost a pump. I'm running fast 85# injectors. I'm only on 8lbs of boost but I'm bumping up to 10ish lbs.

I have a zl1 pump sitting here ready to go in but before I do I wanted to see my options on E85.

You have a link for this plug and play kit?

MonteSS · 06-26-2015, 10:29 AM

https://www.facebook.com/DSX.Tuning

Contact him here. He'll probably tell you to ditch the ZL1 pump and get a squash fuel system.
http://www.squashperformance.com/201...ystem_p_8.html

Additionally you'll probably need ID1300's if you want to have some room to grow. You could probably make due with ID1000's but that's a question for Steck.

It gets expensive quick to run E85, but it's worth it! I just installed the squash fuel system in my car in preparation for running E85 next season when my motor's built!

camarossdusk · 06-26-2015, 10:45 AM

you have a couple diff. options squash or fore, I went with level 2 fore dual pump system, id1300's, gm flex fuel sensor, fore has fluid lines that package with their flex fuel sensor kit that worked great with my setup. Jannetty racing has flex fuel sensor kit that works, as well as dsx tuning, dsx tuning was backordered when tried getting their flex fuel sensor kit.

willhe64 · 06-26-2015, 10:57 AM

Noob question. What is this flex fuel sensor and why would you need it if you run nothing but E85?

Unreal · 06-26-2015, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by willhe64

Noob question. What is this flex fuel sensor and why would you need it if you run nothing but E85?

Flex fuel uses a sensor to automatically just for ethanol percent. So you can run anything from pure gas to E100. If you only run e85 then there isn't much of an advantage, but for $300 or so for the setup, being able to fill up anywhere, blend, or even have the car adjust for E70 in the winter or if the e85 isn't pure e85 is well worth the cost. E85 at the pump varies and the sensor can adjust for e70 to e90, and if you can't get e85, just pump whatever in.

402 · 06-26-2015, 11:37 AM

Just for the record.
A properly tuned e85 car will not notice a difference going from e83 to e70..

That said adding the sensor is badass and very handy.

blake-b · 06-26-2015, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteSS

https://www.facebook.com/DSX.Tuning

Contact him here. He'll probably tell you to ditch the ZL1 pump and get a squash fuel system.
http://www.squashperformance.com/201...ystem_p_8.html

Additionally you'll probably need ID1300's if you want to have some room to grow. You could probably make due with ID1000's but that's a question for Steck.

It gets expensive quick to run E85, but it's worth it! I just installed the squash fuel system in my car in preparation for running E85 next season when my motor's built!

"ID1000s will do 1000whp on E85 if the fuel pump can keep up."
-Dave Steck

granatl · 06-27-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 402

Just for the record.
A properly tuned e85 car will not notice a difference going from e83 to e70..

That said adding the sensor is badass and very handy.

The stoich AFR is different between the two. So the LTFTs might compensate enough for that little of a difference.

Other relevant tables don't have that granularity, but I think it still affects performance.

I drove out of state yesterday where there aren't any e85 stations. So I topped off with gas. It's nice to have the FF sensor and let the car automatically adjust.

06-26-2015, 12:27 AM	#1
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	E85 What all do i need to run E85 safely on my superchargerd ls3? __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

06-26-2015, 12:29 AM	#2
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	Flex fuel setup (sensor and wiring) Dave Steck sells a plug and play kit and, depending on where your power level is now and what fuel system you have, you will likely need: bigger injectors more fuel pump (and/or a boost a pump) and enabling flexfuel in your tune Last edited by blake-b; 06-26-2015 at 02:12 AM.

06-26-2015, 01:39 AM	#3
2010SSRSM6 Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 6,558 View My Garage	What Blake said Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ UNDER CONSTRUCTION......again......

06-26-2015, 03:57 AM	#4
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	Well I'm making 610 to the wheel on stock fuel pump with out any type of boost a pump. I'm running fast 85# injectors. I'm only on 8lbs of boost but I'm bumping up to 10ish lbs. I have a zl1 pump sitting here ready to go in but before I do I wanted to see my options on E85. You have a link for this plug and play kit? __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

06-26-2015, 10:29 AM	#5
MonteSS Drives: 2010 1SS M6 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 168	https://www.facebook.com/DSX.Tuning Contact him here. He'll probably tell you to ditch the ZL1 pump and get a squash fuel system. http://www.squashperformance.com/201...ystem_p_8.html Additionally you'll probably need ID1300's if you want to have some room to grow. You could probably make due with ID1000's but that's a question for Steck. It gets expensive quick to run E85, but it's worth it! I just installed the squash fuel system in my car in preparation for running E85 next season when my motor's built! __________________ 2010 1SS M6 10.58 @ 129 790/689 D1 Procharger Blower Cam Long Tubes Alky Control Meth Tuning by Shane Hinds Built by STG Motorsports

06-26-2015, 10:45 AM	#6
camarossdusk whippled 5th gen Drives: 2013 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: West Texas Posts: 442 View My Garage	you have a couple diff. options squash or fore, I went with level 2 fore dual pump system, id1300's, gm flex fuel sensor, fore has fluid lines that package with their flex fuel sensor kit that worked great with my setup. Jannetty racing has flex fuel sensor kit that works, as well as dsx tuning, dsx tuning was backordered when tried getting their flex fuel sensor kit. __________________ Whipple running 13 lbs of boost, Innovators west 8 rib with 10 percent over drive crankshaft pulley. Fore level 2 Dual pump fuel system, with duel TI auto fuel pumps, ID 1300 fuel injectors, tuned on e85. Driveshaft shop aluminum driveshaft, 1400 hp half shafts, Detroit tru-trac. ls9 camshaft, CNC ported heads, with trunion and dual valve spring upgrade, LS9 head gaskets, ARP 2000 head studs, Manley stainless valves. Adjustable Bmr toe rods, trailing arms, rear adjustable sway bar, full cradle bushings, upper control arm bushings, BMR diff. bushings, bmr driveshaft safety loop.

06-26-2015, 10:57 AM	#7
willhe64 Drives: 2012 45th Vert, 2011 4x4, 9sec Vega Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,188	Noob question. What is this flex fuel sensor and why would you need it if you run nothing but E85? __________________ I feel it only fair to warn you, I have a black belt in CAPS LOCK.

06-26-2015, 11:37 AM	#9
402 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: NEB Posts: 242	Just for the record. A properly tuned e85 car will not notice a difference going from e83 to e70.. That said adding the sensor is badass and very handy.