HELP! After Cam Idle Surge & P0068 Code - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

AiL762 · 01-14-2016, 07:36 PM

I installed vengeance racing kaotik cam. after the install I noticed the car would do a massive rpm drop down after giving it a little acceleration to back out of my drive way or navigate around a parking lot. that drop would constantly turn off the car and was a chore to try driving like that.

after a few days of running, I was able to find out with dynoSteve that my dumbass thought when you tune to delete the o2 sensors, i thought it meant the top ones on the headers as well lol

so obviously I installed them and drastically helped my rpm dropping issue. It still does it and shuts off, but maybe once or twice on cold start. other times it averages around 500, but occasionally around 200.

So point is its still doing it and was trying to find out the issue with it. In addition a few days later, during a hard pull, the car is now giving me an occasional p0068 code. I have to clear it and not drive hard when that decides to happen.

In addition, it seems like the car is running really rich and sometimes the car feels bogged down/clogged and then after it backfires to clear up it runs fine again.

Steve believes I need to replace my spark plugs or at least clean them from when I was running without the o2 sensors it flooded them and are now messed up/dirty. I havnt had the chance to pull all of them out yet, but I did take cylinder one out and it seemed fine. So idk what to think and was hoping some of you on here can give a 2nd or 15th opinion.

I'm gonna clean them to be on the safe side, but I really don't think it would work to solve my issues. please people give me some more ideas on what it might be, or if you have heard of someone having a similar issue.

thanks.

Mike

AiL762 · 01-14-2016, 09:59 PM

no one really has anything to chime in? i really want this car to be realiable as i know it should be.

Candr3535 · 01-14-2016, 10:07 PM

I'd give Ted a call at Jannettys, I'm sure he could help. You definitely need a new tune or adjustment to your tune you have now....

CBRTRX · 01-14-2016, 10:18 PM

You need a tune, I'd talk to some of the venders here.

AiL762 · 01-14-2016, 10:35 PM

i have a tune from dynosteve with my sct tuner. I got it done with him for this cam swap

Candr3535 · 01-14-2016, 10:44 PM

Well dyno Steve has a good reputation, I'd be checking for some sort of vacuum leak. But after that I'd be calling Steve with some data logging. Just a thought, did you upgrade the fuel injectors?

AiL762 · 01-14-2016, 10:52 PM

Ive been doing datalogging with him. and says everything seems "fine" but obviously it isnt and he thinks its yhe spark plugs like i mentioned.

no, didnt upgrade the injectors. dont think i needed for the amount of power i should be making

AiL762 · 01-15-2016, 10:35 AM

I've contacted Ted to try and see what he thinks. As well plan on checking for vacuum leaks and spark plug condition whenever it decides to stop fkn raining all week long. Anyone else have any opinions on what might be going on?

IMPERIALBLUE2SS · 01-15-2016, 11:27 AM

That's a pretty big cam, no way a remote tune is going to get it running right. Find a local reputable tuner to tune on a dyno. Reinstall the factory tune first so they don't charge you out the whazoo to dial it in.

Moreair1 · 01-15-2016, 10:13 PM

Possible causes
- Air leak between the MAF sensor and throttle body
- Dirty Throttle body or Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor
- Throttle Position (TP) sensor not seated properly
- Faulty Throttle Position (TP) sensor
- Faulty Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor
But in all reality it sounds like the tune, when I installed my agp kit I recieved a tune with it, and my rpms where at 1000 when idling and when I was driving it would go all the way up too 3750 rpms, the issue was corrected when i went in and adjusted some of the tables in hp tuner, and it was also causing me multiple engine codes. But I wish you luck with your problem and hopefully you solve it soon
(idle Airflow Minimum is where I had my issues)

rvadim76 · 01-17-2016, 11:23 AM

I would also suggest contacting (calling) Dynosteve, indeed he has a good reputation on this forum and should be able to help you out with this trouble.

Good luck!

rvadim76 · 01-17-2016, 11:24 AM

P.S. he has done a custom tune for my converted and cummed ls3 and he is the one who is always willing to help!

JANNETTYRACING · 01-26-2016, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMPERIALBLUE2SS

That's a pretty big cam, no way a remote tune is going to get it running right. Find a local reputable tuner to tune on a dyno. Reinstall the factory tune first so they don't charge you out the whazoo to dial it in.

False, I have remote tuned that cam many times with perfect results.

Ted.

patternpilot · 01-26-2016, 11:02 PM

I had a similar situation after installing my cam which was specked and provided by Dyno Steve. It turns out the wrong reluctor gear was provided with the cam so the engine was seeing the wrong timing. Due to other problems with this purchase I went to Ted to provide the tune. This is when I found the wrong gear. Purchased the right gear, installed it and with Teds tune the car runs great. Use him. You wont be sorry.

01-14-2016, 07:36 PM	#1
AiL762 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: MIA Posts: 60	HELP! After Cam Idle Surge & P0068 Code I installed vengeance racing kaotik cam. after the install I noticed the car would do a massive rpm drop down after giving it a little acceleration to back out of my drive way or navigate around a parking lot. that drop would constantly turn off the car and was a chore to try driving like that. after a few days of running, I was able to find out with dynoSteve that my dumbass thought when you tune to delete the o2 sensors, i thought it meant the top ones on the headers as well lol so obviously I installed them and drastically helped my rpm dropping issue. It still does it and shuts off, but maybe once or twice on cold start. other times it averages around 500, but occasionally around 200. So point is its still doing it and was trying to find out the issue with it. In addition a few days later, during a hard pull, the car is now giving me an occasional p0068 code. I have to clear it and not drive hard when that decides to happen. In addition, it seems like the car is running really rich and sometimes the car feels bogged down/clogged and then after it backfires to clear up it runs fine again. Steve believes I need to replace my spark plugs or at least clean them from when I was running without the o2 sensors it flooded them and are now messed up/dirty. I havnt had the chance to pull all of them out yet, but I did take cylinder one out and it seemed fine. So idk what to think and was hoping some of you on here can give a 2nd or 15th opinion. I'm gonna clean them to be on the safe side, but I really don't think it would work to solve my issues. please people give me some more ideas on what it might be, or if you have heard of someone having a similar issue. thanks. Mike

01-14-2016, 10:07 PM	#3
Candr3535 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Triple Black Vert M6 #5591 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Galloway,NJ Posts: 747 View My Garage	I'd give Ted a call at Jannettys, I'm sure he could help. You definitely need a new tune or adjustment to your tune you have now.... __________________ 695 RWHP / 660 RWTQ @ 13.5 PSI Dyna-Tech Headers Ceramic Coated w/Super Flo Cats, JRE Custom Rough Idle Racing Cam Package and 125 RWHP Pulley Kit w/ 28% pulley, Custom Tune by Ted, ID850 injectors, JMS Fuel Booster, NGK Plugs, MSD Plug Wires, Roto-Fab CAI, Roto-Fab Big Gulp, Elite Catch Can, Mild to Wild, 90mm VMaxx Ported Throttle Body, Skip Shift Elim., D3 Coolant Resevoir, Separated Clutch Resevoir, and Fuzzy Red Dice.. Last edited by Candr3535; 01-14-2016 at 10:22 PM.

01-14-2016, 10:18 PM	#4
CBRTRX Drives: 2015 CAMARO 1LE Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 195	You need a tune, I'd talk to some of the venders here. __________________ 2015 CAMARO 1LE

01-14-2016, 10:44 PM	#6
Candr3535 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Triple Black Vert M6 #5591 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Galloway,NJ Posts: 747 View My Garage	Well dyno Steve has a good reputation, I'd be checking for some sort of vacuum leak. But after that I'd be calling Steve with some data logging. Just a thought, did you upgrade the fuel injectors? __________________ 695 RWHP / 660 RWTQ @ 13.5 PSI Dyna-Tech Headers Ceramic Coated w/Super Flo Cats, JRE Custom Rough Idle Racing Cam Package and 125 RWHP Pulley Kit w/ 28% pulley, Custom Tune by Ted, ID850 injectors, JMS Fuel Booster, NGK Plugs, MSD Plug Wires, Roto-Fab CAI, Roto-Fab Big Gulp, Elite Catch Can, Mild to Wild, 90mm VMaxx Ported Throttle Body, Skip Shift Elim., D3 Coolant Resevoir, Separated Clutch Resevoir, and Fuzzy Red Dice..

01-15-2016, 10:13 PM	#10
Moreair1 Drives: 2011 ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	Possible causes - Air leak between the MAF sensor and throttle body - Dirty Throttle body or Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor - Throttle Position (TP) sensor not seated properly - Faulty Throttle Position (TP) sensor - Faulty Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor But in all reality it sounds like the tune, when I installed my agp kit I recieved a tune with it, and my rpms where at 1000 when idling and when I was driving it would go all the way up too 3750 rpms, the issue was corrected when i went in and adjusted some of the tables in hp tuner, and it was also causing me multiple engine codes. But I wish you luck with your problem and hopefully you solve it soon (idle Airflow Minimum is where I had my issues) Last edited by Moreair1; 01-15-2016 at 10:45 PM.

01-14-2016, 09:59 PM	#2
AiL762 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: MIA Posts: 60	no one really has anything to chime in? i really want this car to be realiable as i know it should be.

01-14-2016, 10:35 PM	#5
AiL762 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: MIA Posts: 60	i have a tune from dynosteve with my sct tuner. I got it done with him for this cam swap

01-14-2016, 10:52 PM	#7
AiL762 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: MIA Posts: 60	Ive been doing datalogging with him. and says everything seems "fine" but obviously it isnt and he thinks its yhe spark plugs like i mentioned. no, didnt upgrade the injectors. dont think i needed for the amount of power i should be making

01-15-2016, 10:35 AM	#8
AiL762 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: MIA Posts: 60	I've contacted Ted to try and see what he thinks. As well plan on checking for vacuum leaks and spark plug condition whenever it decides to stop fkn raining all week long. Anyone else have any opinions on what might be going on?

01-15-2016, 11:27 AM	#9
IMPERIALBLUE2SS Drives: 2010 imperial blue LS3 M6 2SSRS Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Virginia beach Virginia Posts: 210	That's a pretty big cam, no way a remote tune is going to get it running right. Find a local reputable tuner to tune on a dyno. Reinstall the factory tune first so they don't charge you out the whazoo to dial it in.

01-17-2016, 11:23 AM	#11
rvadim76 Drives: SOLD: 2012 Chevy Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 560 View My Garage	I would also suggest contacting (calling) Dynosteve, indeed he has a good reputation on this forum and should be able to help you out with this trouble. Good luck!

01-17-2016, 11:24 AM	#12
rvadim76 Drives: SOLD: 2012 Chevy Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 560 View My Garage	P.S. he has done a custom tune for my converted and cummed ls3 and he is the one who is always willing to help!

01-26-2016, 11:02 PM	#14
patternpilot Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tri-Cities WA. Posts: 934 View My Garage	I had a similar situation after installing my cam which was specked and provided by Dyno Steve. It turns out the wrong reluctor gear was provided with the cam so the engine was seeing the wrong timing. Due to other problems with this purchase I went to Ted to provide the tune. This is when I found the wrong gear. Purchased the right gear, installed it and with Teds tune the car runs great. Use him. You wont be sorry. __________________ There's more to life than gas mileage LS3, Whipple, Custom Comp Cam, springs, pushrods, timing set, CAI intake, Apex cold air scoop, Doug Thorley TRI-Y headers, Billet Custom Products baffled Valve covers, Mighty Mouse Catch can, ADM FPCM, ZL1 fuel pump, MSD boost-a-pump, Hex Vent hood vents, ProSport gauges(fuel pressure, AFR, Boost), Corsa, 100 cell Cats. Jannetty remote tuned, Pfadt trailing arms, all parts user installed. No Dyno yet. Manual trans. 3.45 gears.