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Inferno2SSRS · 10-09-2009, 12:50 AM

Hey guys, I want to get the ARH, the Vararam CAI when it comes out and get a tune to get everything going right. But I don't want to void my warranty especially since I bought the extended one. Has anyone done this and asked there dealer about it, and had any problems? Any info would be helpful.

Thanks,
Jim

drperry · 10-09-2009, 05:52 AM

Everything should be passable for warranty work, except the tune... No ifs ands or buts about it. A tune will most likely void your warranty...

Though, technically they're supposed to prove that your mod cause the problem, but...

Croathlete · 10-09-2009, 06:59 AM

Just make sure you can go back to your stock tune before you go to the dealer and you should be fine. Look into Vector Motorsports.

Jekyll-N-Hyde · 10-09-2009, 07:09 AM

Inferno both gentleman up above me have nailed it on the head. The only part you mentioned that would void a warranty would be a Tune.
This is how I look at it........After about 3,000 miles if the car hasnt really had any major problems then screw the warranty.
Understand you are only voiding the powertrain warranty on the car.
When it comes to the powertrain the little small things are easy to fix.
IMO unless you lose an engine or a Tranny the warranty will be awsome.
If you have ever dealed with a service department then you will know even with a warranty unless Gm/Ford/Dodge or whoever can duplicate the problem that wont always fix it.
I'm mechanically inclined so if the small stuff happens im there and able to take over....if you are not tool handy then you will need that warranty.
Gm's powertrain is proven I dont know many who use that warranty to replace engines or trannys. ITs not like the LS3 is something New to the Market.
I'm driving mine for 3K miles after that im getting my tune and hoping for the best

You may get a tune have a good rep with the service department and still get work done if they want to be cool.

they have to prove the tune did the hurt or problem however they can say what they want................ lol

eddie SS · 10-09-2009, 10:39 AM

Good to know... I'm in the same situation. Just wondering about current and future mods.

Inferno2SSRS · 10-09-2009, 11:49 AM

Thanks for the info guys.

HaveBlue · 10-09-2009, 12:17 PM

I would recommend that you get a copy of the disclaimer from the parts manufacturer. If the manufacturer has a disclaimer that looks like one of these below than you are guilty of "tampering" with the emissions system according to the EPA's Clean Air Act. Since GM has to certify that that vehicle will meet emissions standards for 50,000 miles, they no longer consider your car a street car.
Since long tube headers require the relocation of the converters they are an automatic "fail".

Not trying to be the messanger of doom here, but you should be aware of the actual law before you proceed and not someone's opinion of "what you can get away with".

“Not legal for sale for, or use on, pollution-controlled vehicles.”

“Legal only for racing vehicles which may never be used upon a highway. Not
applicable or intended for street or highway use.”

Special Note: Be aware that use of either disclaimer assumes additional responsibilities with regard to accountability. Specifically, records of all sales should be kept to provide a “trail” to the number of products sold as compared to the potential size of the market segment. For example, if you are selling parts for a specific category of race cars and your total sales exceed the projected number of such cars in use, it could be deemed you are selling outside the boundaries of the market segment you’ve specified. Such practice can become a violation of the Act and CARB policy.!
SEMA Black Book - A Guide to Emissions Clarification of Specialty Automotive Aftermarket Products

NAHURRY · 10-09-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Croathlete

Just make sure you can go back to your stock tune before you go to the dealer and you should be fine. Look into Vector Motorsports.

Have these kind of tunes been proven to work yet? What I mean is...I have
read that they (GM) have a way of knowing if your car was ever tuned?

HaveBlue · 10-09-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAHURRY

Have these kind of tunes been proven to work yet? What I mean is...I have
read that they (GM) have a way of knowing if your car was ever tuned?

http://www.sandyblogs.com/techlink/2...ibrations.html

BOBSS · 10-09-2009, 08:33 PM

in the event a dealer rejects a claim due to the tune, or anything else, is your VIN tagged in a database making it impossible to change the the outcome of any subsequent claims?

For what it's worth, I have this setup and have been fine for 8000 miles so far, no regrets.

HaveBlue · 10-09-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOBSS

in the event a dealer rejects a claim due to the tune, or anything else, is your VIN tagged in a database making it impossible to change the the outcome of any subsequent claims?

For what it's worth, I have this setup and have been fine for 8000 miles so far, no regrets.

Yes that is correct.

Glad you're enjoying your car

Inferno2SSRS · 10-10-2009, 02:31 AM

It sucks, that this car has so much potential to sound so great, because I think everyone can agree it needs to breath better. But I gotta go speak to the dealer and see what they say, because they have the final say regardless. Thanks again guys.

Black5thgen · 10-10-2009, 03:13 AM

Tune does not always void your warrenty. Ask your service manager.

BOBSS · 10-10-2009, 04:12 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Onstar was keeping track of who had the best tune...
Does onstar get a flag when a Camaro SS overtakes a vette?

10-09-2009, 12:50 AM	#1
Inferno2SSRS Jim Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Orange Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York, Staten Island Posts: 362 View My Garage	Warranty Question for Headers, CAI, and Tune Hey guys, I want to get the ARH, the Vararam CAI when it comes out and get a tune to get everything going right. But I don't want to void my warranty especially since I bought the extended one. Has anyone done this and asked there dealer about it, and had any problems? Any info would be helpful. Thanks, Jim

10-09-2009, 06:59 AM	#3
Croathlete Danny Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,656	Just make sure you can go back to your stock tune before you go to the dealer and you should be fine. Look into Vector Motorsports. __________________ 2SS/RS CGM with black rally stripes DON_RAFA describing my Noweeds cutouts - "Very Strong. When I couldn't see you I still heard you. Sounds like your car is pissed at the world."

10-09-2009, 10:39 AM	#5
eddie SS ALWAYS A MARINE......!!! Drives: 2010 camaro IOM/2SS/RS/sunroof Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 268 View My Garage	Good to know... I'm in the same situation. Just wondering about current and future mods. __________________ She's finally home: 09/18/09 Mods so far: SOLO Performance MACH XL cat-back exhaust, NOWEEDS exhaust diverters, Tinted windows, gas cap decal, bow tie black outs, Cold Air Inc CAI, Eibach Pro kit lowering springs Mods I have but not installed yet: rear trunk black out, Diablosport Trinity Future Mods: ARH long tube w/ high flow cats or Dynatech's SuperMaXX long tube w/ high flow cats, Maggie S/C

10-09-2009, 12:17 PM	#7
HaveBlue Drives: CTS/CAMARO Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SEMA/PERF INDUSTRY GUY Posts: 488	I would recommend that you get a copy of the disclaimer from the parts manufacturer. If the manufacturer has a disclaimer that looks like one of these below than you are guilty of "tampering" with the emissions system according to the EPA's Clean Air Act. Since GM has to certify that that vehicle will meet emissions standards for 50,000 miles, they no longer consider your car a street car. Since long tube headers require the relocation of the converters they are an automatic "fail". Not trying to be the messanger of doom here, but you should be aware of the actual law before you proceed and not someone's opinion of "what you can get away with". “Not legal for sale for, or use on, pollution-controlled vehicles.” “Legal only for racing vehicles which may never be used upon a highway. Not applicable or intended for street or highway use.” Special Note: Be aware that use of either disclaimer assumes additional responsibilities with regard to accountability. Specifically, records of all sales should be kept to provide a “trail” to the number of products sold as compared to the potential size of the market segment. For example, if you are selling parts for a specific category of race cars and your total sales exceed the projected number of such cars in use, it could be deemed you are selling outside the boundaries of the market segment you’ve specified. Such practice can become a violation of the Act and CARB policy.! SEMA Black Book - A Guide to Emissions Clarification of Specialty Automotive Aftermarket Products __________________ "everyone wants to go to heaven. but nobody wants to die" "you gotta pay to play" SEMA PICTURES-PARTS & CARS http://www.pbase.com/haveblue/sema_2009

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10-09-2009, 05:52 AM	#2
drperry Drives: Chevy Blazer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grande Prairie, AB Posts: 300	Everything should be passable for warranty work, except the tune... No ifs ands or buts about it. A tune will most likely void your warranty... Though, technically they're supposed to prove that your mod cause the problem, but...

10-09-2009, 07:09 AM	#4
Jekyll-N-Hyde I put the FU back in FUN Drives: 1969 SS 396 , 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Between Weatherford and Azle TX hway730 Posts: 2,129	Inferno both gentleman up above me have nailed it on the head. The only part you mentioned that would void a warranty would be a Tune. This is how I look at it........After about 3,000 miles if the car hasnt really had any major problems then screw the warranty. Understand you are only voiding the powertrain warranty on the car. When it comes to the powertrain the little small things are easy to fix. IMO unless you lose an engine or a Tranny the warranty will be awsome. If you have ever dealed with a service department then you will know even with a warranty unless Gm/Ford/Dodge or whoever can duplicate the problem that wont always fix it. I'm mechanically inclined so if the small stuff happens im there and able to take over....if you are not tool handy then you will need that warranty. Gm's powertrain is proven I dont know many who use that warranty to replace engines or trannys. ITs not like the LS3 is something New to the Market. I'm driving mine for 3K miles after that im getting my tune and hoping for the best You may get a tune have a good rep with the service department and still get work done if they want to be cool. they have to prove the tune did the hurt or problem however they can say what they want................ lol

10-09-2009, 11:49 AM	#6
Inferno2SSRS Jim Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Orange Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York, Staten Island Posts: 362 View My Garage	Thanks for the info guys.

10-09-2009, 08:33 PM	#10
BOBSS Outlaw Drives: 2010SS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 299	in the event a dealer rejects a claim due to the tune, or anything else, is your VIN tagged in a database making it impossible to change the the outcome of any subsequent claims? For what it's worth, I have this setup and have been fine for 8000 miles so far, no regrets.

10-10-2009, 02:31 AM	#12
Inferno2SSRS Jim Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Orange Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York, Staten Island Posts: 362 View My Garage	It sucks, that this car has so much potential to sound so great, because I think everyone can agree it needs to breath better. But I gotta go speak to the dealer and see what they say, because they have the final say regardless. Thanks again guys.

10-10-2009, 03:13 AM	#13
Black5thgen Account Suspended Drives: 2007 C6 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 2,251 View My Garage	Tune does not always void your warrenty. Ask your service manager.

10-10-2009, 04:12 AM	#14
BOBSS Outlaw Drives: 2010SS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 299	I wouldn't be surprised if Onstar was keeping track of who had the best tune... Does onstar get a flag when a Camaro SS overtakes a vette?