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Mrbowtie26 · 11-04-2016, 07:40 AM

Posted in the 1LE forum but figured this would be more appropriate. It's a 2015 1SS 1LE with TSP 2" primary LT headers through dual 3" exhaust with no cats going Into dual flowmaster outlaw mufflers. Sounds insane. Other mods are ADM LSA conversion. With 2.75 pulley, btr stage 1 pd blower cam, ADM cai with race scoop, rear suspension complete bmn except for lca's , adm fpcm, 65lb injectors. Dyno'd 640/578 with the injectors at 86% duty cycle. Debating if I should get ID850'S or a boost a pump. Very happy with the combo. ADM kit was 100% complete and really well done. Definitely recommend ADM kit for anyone thinking of going pd. In hindsight I probably should have went with 85 lb injectors I just didn't think I would have made as much as 640. I figured I'd be closer to 580. Opinions on injectors with my combo ?

frankwjr · 11-04-2016, 07:54 AM

Stock fuel pump? Maybe a ZL1 fuel pump swap before larger injectors...

MoeIv · 11-04-2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by frankwjr

Stock fuel pump? Maybe a ZL1 fuel pump swap before larger injectors...

The 1LE's come with a zl1 fuel pump from the factory

frankwjr · 11-04-2016, 08:12 AM

10-4....

hammdo · 11-04-2016, 08:50 AM

1LE's eat this kit up. Excellent numbers for sure. Unless you intended to WOT all the time, 80% duty is what you want to be at max duty cycle -- as a safe margin. 86% is close. Are you going for more hp? 850s would be safe and give you room. Those would drop right in. Retune would be necessary.

Every car is different. Your combo breaths well and the hp shows that! How much boost? 9 PSI?

Congrats!

-Don

Mrbowtie26 · 11-04-2016, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hammdo

1LE's eat this kit up. Excellent numbers for sure. Unless you intended to WOT all the time, 80% duty is what you want to be at max duty cycle -- as a safe margin. 86% is close. Are you going for more hp? 850s would be safe and give you room. Those would drop right in. Retune would be necessary.

Every car is different. Your combo breaths well and the hp shows that! How much boost? 9 PSI?

Congrats!

-Don

Thanks Hammdo. Yeah the boost is on the above picture but to be exact it was around 9 for most of it but from 5700 to 6900 it slowly rose to a max of 9.9. Ted Janetty commented that it was really good power for that amount of boost. I still have the 2.50 pulley I considered putting on but that was assuming I'd be just under or at 600. I'm not sure how much I wanna push the stock block.

Mrbowtie26 · 11-04-2016, 10:17 AM

Ted recommended bigger injectors to get the duty cycle down and give more room for the other pulley and Andy from ADM recommended a boost a pump.

Bo White · 11-04-2016, 10:26 AM

I'd go with better pumps and 85Lb injectors. Your probably running out of pump too

Mrbowtie26 · 11-04-2016, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

I'd go with better pumps and 85Lb injectors. Your probably running out of pump too

With the adm fpcm and zl1 pump the pressure stayed above 60 even at 6900. Not sure if much more is desirable. In the above picture the fuel pressure is in pink. After Ted was done tuning everything the pressure was relatively consistent at 60 or slightly above throughout.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-04-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrbowtie26

With the adm fpcm and zl1 pump the pressure stayed above 60 even at 6900. Not sure if much more is desirable. In the above picture the fuel pressure is in pink. After Ted was done tuning everything the pressure was relatively consistent at 60 or slightly above throughout.

When I finished tuning I was happy with the fuel pressure so we are good there.

A fuel pump voltage booster won't change that nor will it change the IDC.

I am still going to push you toward the ID-850s Your IDC will be around 50 % and leave room for that 2.5 pulley.

Ted.

Mrbowtie26 · 11-04-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

When I finished tuning I was happy with the fuel pressure so we are good there.

A fuel pump voltage booster won't change that nor will it change the IDC.

I am still going to push you toward the ID-850s Your IDC will be around 50 % and leave room for that 2.5 pulley.

Ted.

Ted you think with the Id850's, zl1 pump, and adm fpcm that would get me in the 680 range right (with the 2.5 pulley) ?
I'm probably going to make that my upgrades for next season. I'm just worried about the stock bottom end and unsure how much more power it will take (assuming I get the injector issue in line).

JANNETTYRACING · 11-05-2016, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrbowtie26

Ted you think with the Id850's, zl1 pump, and adm fpcm that would get me in the 680 range right (with the 2.5 pulley) ?
I'm probably going to make that my upgrades for next season. I'm just worried about the stock bottom end and unsure how much more power it will take (assuming I get the injector issue in line).

I have done 700-720 RWHP on this fuel supply ID-850 combination many times so you definitely will be able to support 680.

I am comfortable at 650-670 on your combo on 93 octane but not with your current injectors.

Ted.

Mrbowtie26 · 11-05-2016, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

I have done 700-720 RWHP on this fuel supply ID-850 combination many times so you definitely will be able to support 680.

I am comfortable at 650-670 on your combo on 93 octane but not with your current injectors.

Ted.

Alright thanks for the info appreciate it !

JANNETTYRACING · 11-05-2016, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrbowtie26

Alright thanks for the info appreciate it !

Any time Friend.

Thank you for your business.

Ted.

11-04-2016, 07:40 AM	#1
Mrbowtie26 Drives: 2015 CRT 1SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: West Haven CT Posts: 593 View My Garage	Finally dyno'd my car after LSA conversion Posted in the 1LE forum but figured this would be more appropriate. It's a 2015 1SS 1LE with TSP 2" primary LT headers through dual 3" exhaust with no cats going Into dual flowmaster outlaw mufflers. Sounds insane. Other mods are ADM LSA conversion. With 2.75 pulley, btr stage 1 pd blower cam, ADM cai with race scoop, rear suspension complete bmn except for lca's , adm fpcm, 65lb injectors. Dyno'd 640/578 with the injectors at 86% duty cycle. Debating if I should get ID850'S or a boost a pump. Very happy with the combo. ADM kit was 100% complete and really well done. Definitely recommend ADM kit for anyone thinking of going pd. In hindsight I probably should have went with 85 lb injectors I just didn't think I would have made as much as 640. I figured I'd be closer to 580. Opinions on injectors with my combo ? Attached Images

11-04-2016, 07:54 AM	#2
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	Stock fuel pump? Maybe a ZL1 fuel pump swap before larger injectors... __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

11-04-2016, 08:12 AM	#4
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	10-4.... __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

11-04-2016, 08:50 AM	#5
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,709 View My Garage	1LE's eat this kit up. Excellent numbers for sure. Unless you intended to WOT all the time, 80% duty is what you want to be at max duty cycle -- as a safe margin. 86% is close. Are you going for more hp? 850s would be safe and give you room. Those would drop right in. Retune would be necessary. Every car is different. Your combo breaths well and the hp shows that! How much boost? 9 PSI? Congrats! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

11-04-2016, 10:26 AM	#8
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,095	I'd go with better pumps and 85Lb injectors. Your probably running out of pump too __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

11-04-2016, 10:17 AM	#7
Mrbowtie26 Drives: 2015 CRT 1SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: West Haven CT Posts: 593 View My Garage	Ted recommended bigger injectors to get the duty cycle down and give more room for the other pulley and Andy from ADM recommended a boost a pump.