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JTRATX · 12-17-2016, 08:45 AM

With this car this is my first encounter with carbon rotors. I do like them, but at the tracks I drive the pedal would would start to travel a bit more to the floor than I was comfortable, especially when needing to scrub over 100mph at some tracks to make your turn, and I use SRF, so it's not the brake fluid.

Plus the obvious consumables.

I will say that after I burned through the OEM brake pads I weighed the rotors and they weighed .2 lbs less than new. Pretty impressive.

So I went with Racing Brake rotors. Yes, they weigh more, check their site for specs.

These are pics after 3 days at COTA. I am using their race compound, and its pretty good, but will switch and try something else.
I now have shit loads of pad choices.

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D2M · 12-17-2016, 09:16 AM

Nice!! I was looking into this option. Please keep us posted on how long they last. One thing I dont miss about steel is swapping pads from street to track to street. Did you get the 34mm or 32mm wide front rotors?

JTRATX · 12-17-2016, 10:51 AM

I got the 32mm.
Swapping pads, ha, never! I prefer to squeal!

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ZapperZ · 12-17-2016, 01:03 PM

I've also experience soft brake pedal after 145mph hard braking sessions.
Definately thinking of going to steel rotors.
Didn't know rotors were available in different thickness.
Why did you go with 32mm?
How does the pads look after three COTA sessions?

JTRATX · 12-17-2016, 02:04 PM

Pads 1/3 worn, 32mm for weight

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ZapperZ · 12-17-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JTRATX

Pads 1/3 worn, 32mm for weight

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1/3 worn is really good for running at such a fast horsepower power track as COTA.
Five track days is about it for front and rear pads.

Schlok · 12-17-2016, 03:41 PM

Awesome! This changed my life. Well not really but pretty awesome.

Chris93Si · 12-17-2016, 09:20 PM

Great info, a part number and price would be a great reference for future searches

D2M · 12-17-2016, 09:55 PM

$3K

http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-T.../gm-irk-11.htm

Robbie1227 · 12-17-2016, 10:22 PM

Hold on a second... Now I'm no gera head, I say it all the time, but wasn't the Carbon Ceramic Brakes one of the main reasons we purchased the Z28??
I had a bad ass ZL1, and never had any brake fade, but was constantly warned that it was coming, and now we're switching back to steel rotors!?!?
I'm so confused

hjdca · 12-17-2016, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie1227

Hold on a second... Now I'm no gera head, I say it all the time, but wasn't the Carbon Ceramic Brakes one of the main reasons we purchased the Z28??
I had a bad ass ZL1, and never had any brake fade, but was constantly warned that it was coming, and now we're switching back to steel rotors!?!?
I'm so confused

I also thought the Carbon Ceramics were not supposed to go soft or fade.... I understand switching because of the cost issue ...but, the steel performing better on the track seems counter intuitive. I suppose you should have to brake earlier into the turns with the steel brakes, right ? ie. Can you break as late into the turns with the Steel vs the Carbon Ceramics ?

To be honest, I also like the cool factor of the CCBs... "Ahh, where did you get those XL pizza pie rotors on the front of that camaro !! "

Robbie1227 · 12-17-2016, 10:49 PM

Me too!
They look so sick and hardcore and unique!

Shoupaloop · 12-18-2016, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hjdca

To be honest, I also like the cool factor of the CCBs... "Ahh, where did you get those XL pizza pie rotors on the front of that camaro !! "

I had 16.1" rotors on my Charger, but they were in larger wheels. I got a few compliments from people that actually noticed them. I get way more in the Z28. People notice the rotors/calipers all the time. Weird.

Stephen12ZL1 · 12-18-2016, 02:16 PM

CCM brakes are great, but I would consider this mod. The CCMs aren't any better than a steel rotor with a track pad like a DTC70/60 imho.

12-17-2016, 08:45 AM	#1
JTRATX Drives: 17 SS 1LE, 14 Yukon Denali Join Date: May 2015 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 355	Installed steel rotors on Z28 With this car this is my first encounter with carbon rotors. I do like them, but at the tracks I drive the pedal would would start to travel a bit more to the floor than I was comfortable, especially when needing to scrub over 100mph at some tracks to make your turn, and I use SRF, so it's not the brake fluid. Plus the obvious consumables. I will say that after I burned through the OEM brake pads I weighed the rotors and they weighed .2 lbs less than new. Pretty impressive. So I went with Racing Brake rotors. Yes, they weigh more, check their site for specs. These are pics after 3 days at COTA. I am using their race compound, and its pretty good, but will switch and try something else. I now have shit loads of pad choices. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-17-2016, 10:22 PM	#10
Robbie1227 Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28/2016 Jeep Sahara Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 544	Hold on a second... Now I'm no gera head, I say it all the time, but wasn't the Carbon Ceramic Brakes one of the main reasons we purchased the Z28?? I had a bad ass ZL1, and never had any brake fade, but was constantly warned that it was coming, and now we're switching back to steel rotors!?!? I'm so confused __________________ 2015 summit white Z28 #120 TRK DAY -Sun-Tek PPF-C protection film on 2/3 of the car, Moreno Camber plates, American Racing 2" ceramic coated LT headers and X-pipes with No Cats, Taylor red performance wires, NGK plugs, BTR Stage III Cam, MSD Atomic intake, Nick Williams 102mm throttle body, Stage 2 CNC Ported Heads by WCCH, MGW short throw shifter, oil catch can, and a dyno tune to get me to 587 RWHP and 516 RWTQ GONE: 2013 Summit White Camaro ZL1 M6 Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks headers and CAT delete, ATI damper and 10% pulley and balancer! Results: 576 RWHP - 540 RWTQ

12-17-2016, 10:49 PM	#12
Robbie1227 Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28/2016 Jeep Sahara Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 544	Me too! They look so sick and hardcore and unique! __________________ 2015 summit white Z28 #120 TRK DAY -Sun-Tek PPF-C protection film on 2/3 of the car, Moreno Camber plates, American Racing 2" ceramic coated LT headers and X-pipes with No Cats, Taylor red performance wires, NGK plugs, BTR Stage III Cam, MSD Atomic intake, Nick Williams 102mm throttle body, Stage 2 CNC Ported Heads by WCCH, MGW short throw shifter, oil catch can, and a dyno tune to get me to 587 RWHP and 516 RWTQ GONE: 2013 Summit White Camaro ZL1 M6 Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks headers and CAT delete, ATI damper and 10% pulley and balancer! Results: 576 RWHP - 540 RWTQ

12-18-2016, 02:16 PM	#14
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,815	CCM brakes are great, but I would consider this mod. The CCMs aren't any better than a steel rotor with a track pad like a DTC70/60 imho. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

12-17-2016, 09:16 AM	#2
D2M Drives: Z/28 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: NJ Posts: 538	Nice!! I was looking into this option. Please keep us posted on how long they last. One thing I dont miss about steel is swapping pads from street to track to street. Did you get the 34mm or 32mm wide front rotors?

12-17-2016, 10:51 AM	#3
JTRATX Drives: 17 SS 1LE, 14 Yukon Denali Join Date: May 2015 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 355	I got the 32mm. Swapping pads, ha, never! I prefer to squeal! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-17-2016, 01:03 PM	#4
ZapperZ Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE 2022 GMC AT4 HD Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Valparaiso,Indiana Posts: 286	I've also experience soft brake pedal after 145mph hard braking sessions. Definately thinking of going to steel rotors. Didn't know rotors were available in different thickness. Why did you go with 32mm? How does the pads look after three COTA sessions?

12-17-2016, 02:04 PM	#5
JTRATX Drives: 17 SS 1LE, 14 Yukon Denali Join Date: May 2015 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 355	Pads 1/3 worn, 32mm for weight Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-17-2016, 03:41 PM	#7
Schlok Drives: 2015 Z/28 #397 2022 ZL1 #1799 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DC Posts: 521	Awesome! This changed my life. Well not really but pretty awesome.

12-17-2016, 09:20 PM	#8
Chris93Si Drives: 2015 Z28 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: WV Posts: 54	Great info, a part number and price would be a great reference for future searches

12-17-2016, 09:55 PM	#9
D2M Drives: Z/28 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: NJ Posts: 538	$3K http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-T.../gm-irk-11.htm