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camarosspower · 01-14-2017, 07:55 PM

Hey guys asking for my buddy again. He has a 2013 1le with the agp TT kit. Anyways his car was running fine up until he stopped at a red light, put the clutch in and it died. Had it towed. Next day tried to crank it again and it did but idled real rough then would die once it heated up a bit. DTC code read c2711 on the aeroforce gauges. We thought it might've been the n2mb 2step/wot box. Checked all the wires and reprogrammed it. Still same issue. He also changed the crank position sensor and cam position sensor. And now it won't start at all. Now the codes P0335 and p0336 are showing after he changed them. Could it be the timing chain? Running out of ideas.

1KillerSS · 01-15-2017, 02:59 AM

Possibly a burnt harness. When they originally installed the kit on my car, the tech didn't have the common sense to relocate one of the harnesses. As a result it was burnt. causing crank signal issues. Hell, we thought the reclutor wheel was loose.

camarosspower · 01-15-2017, 08:25 AM

You might be right. It does get hot in there

1KillerSS · 01-15-2017, 01:22 PM

Did you do a crank sensor relearn?

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camarosspower · 01-15-2017, 07:40 PM

He hasn't done that yet. But isn't the car suppose to crank in order to do the relearn procedure? Checked all the wiring, turned out good

Moreair1 · 01-15-2017, 08:28 PM

You may also have to do a theft deterrent system relearn as well, this could be preventing the car from starting

Moreair1 · 01-15-2017, 08:30 PM

Crankshaft Variation (CASE Learn), Engine Idle speed, Theft Deterrent password, and Transmission adaptive shift points. Body Control Computer &/or Instrument Cluster replacement Theft deterrent password relearn is necessary. Engine, crankshaft, harmonic balancer, and crankshaft position sensor. If any of the above items are replaced, then a Crankshaft Variation relearn is necessary.

RELEARN PROCEDURES

IMPORTANT: Please note that the Theft Deterrent Password Relearn must be performed first, otherwise the vehicle may not start.

A link that may help
http://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagno...procedure.html

camarosspower · 01-15-2017, 10:09 PM

Thanks moreair you've been a great help. He is trying to get someone to get it done

Moreair1 · 01-15-2017, 10:36 PM

Good luck and let us know what it was once you figure it out

bayarea408 · 01-15-2017, 11:36 PM

check your grounds! i had a good time looking around and found out that one of my grounds from the passenger side head was NOT making full contact! i may have bumped into it doing something. A quick look over and a wiggle to ensure contact and it started right up first turn over.

ecreps · 01-18-2017, 09:20 PM

I will second the grounds. I had one of the nuts holding on the motor to chassis ground work loose, car wouldn't crank or anything. Tightened it up and all was well.

Moto-Mojo · 01-20-2017, 08:59 AM

Man, big boy mods are not for rank amateurs, it appears. (no dig at the OP) If the money outlay doesn't spook you, the potential high tech problems will! Hope you get it figured out.

1KillerSS · 01-20-2017, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

Man, big boy mods are not for rank amateurs, it appears. (no dig at the OP) If the money outlay doesn't spook you, the potential high tech problems will! Hope you get it figured out.

Stuff like this happens all the time, across professional shops all over the US. They just don't start a thread about it. They call a buddy, or someone else that may know the answer. For them starting a thread would make them look bad, and loose business.

Unreal · 01-20-2017, 09:51 AM

And the 1000+ people going around with no issues aren't posting about it either.

And shit like this happens to bone stock cars.

01-14-2017, 07:55 PM	#1
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Car won't start Hey guys asking for my buddy again. He has a 2013 1le with the agp TT kit. Anyways his car was running fine up until he stopped at a red light, put the clutch in and it died. Had it towed. Next day tried to crank it again and it did but idled real rough then would die once it heated up a bit. DTC code read c2711 on the aeroforce gauges. We thought it might've been the n2mb 2step/wot box. Checked all the wires and reprogrammed it. Still same issue. He also changed the crank position sensor and cam position sensor. And now it won't start at all. Now the codes P0335 and p0336 are showing after he changed them. Could it be the timing chain? Running out of ideas.

01-15-2017, 02:59 AM	#2
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Possibly a burnt harness. When they originally installed the kit on my car, the tech didn't have the common sense to relocate one of the harnesses. As a result it was burnt. causing crank signal issues. Hell, we thought the reclutor wheel was loose. __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

01-15-2017, 01:22 PM	#4
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Did you do a crank sensor relearn? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

01-15-2017, 08:28 PM	#6
Moreair1 Drives: 2011 ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	You may also have to do a theft deterrent system relearn as well, this could be preventing the car from starting __________________ Cai intake and a few other mods😎

01-15-2017, 08:30 PM	#7
Moreair1 Drives: 2011 ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	Crankshaft Variation (CASE Learn), Engine Idle speed, Theft Deterrent password, and Transmission adaptive shift points. Body Control Computer &/or Instrument Cluster replacement Theft deterrent password relearn is necessary. Engine, crankshaft, harmonic balancer, and crankshaft position sensor. If any of the above items are replaced, then a Crankshaft Variation relearn is necessary. RELEARN PROCEDURES IMPORTANT: Please note that the Theft Deterrent Password Relearn must be performed first, otherwise the vehicle may not start. A link that may help http://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagno...procedure.html __________________ Cai intake and a few other mods😎 Last edited by Moreair1; 01-15-2017 at 08:48 PM.

01-15-2017, 08:25 AM	#3
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	You might be right. It does get hot in there

01-15-2017, 07:40 PM	#5
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	He hasn't done that yet. But isn't the car suppose to crank in order to do the relearn procedure? Checked all the wiring, turned out good

01-15-2017, 10:09 PM	#8
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Thanks moreair you've been a great help. He is trying to get someone to get it done

01-15-2017, 10:36 PM	#9
Moreair1 Drives: 2011 ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	Good luck and let us know what it was once you figure it out __________________ Cai intake and a few other mods😎

01-15-2017, 11:36 PM	#10
bayarea408 Drives: T Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 803	check your grounds! i had a good time looking around and found out that one of my grounds from the passenger side head was NOT making full contact! i may have bumped into it doing something. A quick look over and a wiggle to ensure contact and it started right up first turn over.

01-18-2017, 09:20 PM	#11
ecreps Drives: 2014 1LE, 1996 z28 Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 172	I will second the grounds. I had one of the nuts holding on the motor to chassis ground work loose, car wouldn't crank or anything. Tightened it up and all was well.

01-20-2017, 08:59 AM	#12
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,986	Man, big boy mods are not for rank amateurs, it appears. (no dig at the OP) If the money outlay doesn't spook you, the potential high tech problems will! Hope you get it figured out. __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

01-20-2017, 09:51 AM	#14
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	And the 1000+ people going around with no issues aren't posting about it either. And shit like this happens to bone stock cars. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp