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NYCEGUY01 · 02-20-2017, 10:13 PM

Car has a KN CAI and is all stock.

Getting ready to order a set of Long tubes, exhaust, cam, ported TB etc...

Once I put all this in will the car start, run, and drive ( Freeway speeds ) safely without a tune ?

Im planning on getting it tuned but will I be able to drive it to a shop for some dyno time ?

Raulo19 · 02-20-2017, 10:30 PM

Don't be tempted to run it hard and you'll be fine. As long as you make sure everything is sealed and hook up ALL sensors (I always forget one). Unless it's a not so mild cam, I can't imagine it causing problems.

RupertPupkin · 02-20-2017, 10:30 PM

Should start.. drive it to tuner is fine..just baby it though.

RupertPupkin · 02-20-2017, 10:31 PM

I know for my car, builder said it barely cranked over.

WHAMMO · 02-20-2017, 10:36 PM

Mine ran ok, but idle was weird and car was dying everytime I would push the clutch. Ran like a POS. It even ran like that with a "base tune" from a known seller. I siwtched to a real tuner like Pat G and it ran perfect on "his 1st base tune" (email tune with autocal).

It will run like shittt

BurnedRubber · 02-20-2017, 10:59 PM

I wouldn't risk it personally. I would find someone with a trailer or get a flatbed to tow it over if you can afford it.

Gunmetal Speedster · 02-21-2017, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BurnedRubber

I wouldn't risk it personally. I would find someone with a trailer or get a flatbed to tow it over if you can afford it.

That's a lot of changes at once. It would be a shame if the car decided not to handle it after you sink that much into it.

EsteSS · 02-21-2017, 04:14 AM

Your initial startup will have the car in Open loop. That will be rough at first, and depending on your cam size, you may have too much air flow. As stated above... it may not stay cranked.

Once your car enters Closed loop, you should be ok to a point. You're ECU will make adjustments accordingly. But if you've ever seen a scanner right after a swap like that, your Fuel Trims are going nuts. It's having to adjust for an increase of air that it thinks shouldn't be there. If you gas it too hard (enough to enter power enrichment) you'll most likely lean out. Ain't nobody got time for that!

I personally (if I didn't have tune software) would only feel safe driving it straight to the Tuner, and would only do that if I had my scanner hooked up so I could monitor everything.

NYCEGUY01 · 02-21-2017, 07:09 AM

Anyone have luck with a mailed tune in a sct or diablo for something like this ?

Thinking of a ts stage 3 cam. Long tubes/full exhaust, Ported tb.

I originally was planning on doing the exhaust then just paying a local shop to install the cam and tune it but the 2 local guys I know of don't return mesages ( pm, email, or phone).

Hulk · 02-21-2017, 07:28 AM

I went with the GPI VVT SS3 cam, Ported heads, intake manifold tube mod, ported throttle body. Everything I needed was in the boxes. They sent me the initial tune. I turned the key and it fired up like normal only louder and then the nice cam sound came in. Still running it on the initial tune. I talked with Ryan to get what I needed. Awesome Customer support!

Take pictures and when you disconnect anything put blue painter tape on it and write on it so you know where it goes. The blue tape is easy to spot so you do not miss something.

NYCEGUY01 · 02-21-2017, 08:07 AM

Im good with the actual install work. Not worried about that part at all.

Just new to needing a computer to make it run.

I was just gonna pay the shop to install the cam so they could tune it at the same time.

Guess Im just old.

EsteSS · 02-21-2017, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYCEGUY01

Im good with the actual install work. Not worried about that part at all.

Just new to needing a computer to make it run.

I was just gonna pay the shop to install the cam so they could tune it at the same time.

Guess Im just old.

You should have no trouble getting some of the sponsors on here to set you up with a tune based on your setup and get it to you on a hand held to load it up.

JerTM · 02-21-2017, 09:19 AM

It's going to be tempermental, but it will run. I would contact JDP in Murray pretty quickly as their dyno fills up quickly. They are the ones who tuned mine the first time with the basic boltons, and the second time with the cam. Very happy with their tunes.

frankwjr · 02-21-2017, 09:25 AM

dynoSteve...seriously...why would you sink all the $$ into a car that run's on a computer and no tune? peace out...

02-20-2017, 10:13 PM	#1
NYCEGUY01 Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: N. UTAH Posts: 24	New cam and exhaust. will it start ? Car has a KN CAI and is all stock. Getting ready to order a set of Long tubes, exhaust, cam, ported TB etc... Once I put all this in will the car start, run, and drive ( Freeway speeds ) safely without a tune ? Im planning on getting it tuned but will I be able to drive it to a shop for some dyno time ? __________________ 2015 Velvet Blue 1LE

02-20-2017, 10:36 PM	#5
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,646	Mine ran ok, but idle was weird and car was dying everytime I would push the clutch. Ran like a POS. It even ran like that with a "base tune" from a known seller. I siwtched to a real tuner like Pat G and it ran perfect on "his 1st base tune" (email tune with autocal). It will run like shittt __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me.

02-20-2017, 10:59 PM	#6
BurnedRubber Ben Rakers Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Illinois Posts: 405 View My Garage	I wouldn't risk it personally. I would find someone with a trailer or get a flatbed to tow it over if you can afford it. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS K&N Blackhawk Cold air intake, Hawk Performance Ceramic pads, BAER drilled and slotted rotors, Side louver black faded inserts, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, BMR Trailing Arms, Elite Engineering Catch Can, MSD Spark Plug Wires, Texas Speed 1 7/8in Headers and cat back, High Flow Cats, 3 inch X-Pipe, Speed Dawg shift knob, Tuned by Nickey. And oh, its My first car. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_L...5jF6EQEoKDNQ2g

02-21-2017, 04:14 AM	#8
EsteSS Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 186	Your initial startup will have the car in Open loop. That will be rough at first, and depending on your cam size, you may have too much air flow. As stated above... it may not stay cranked. Once your car enters Closed loop, you should be ok to a point. You're ECU will make adjustments accordingly. But if you've ever seen a scanner right after a swap like that, your Fuel Trims are going nuts. It's having to adjust for an increase of air that it thinks shouldn't be there. If you gas it too hard (enough to enter power enrichment) you'll most likely lean out. Ain't nobody got time for that! I personally (if I didn't have tune software) would only feel safe driving it straight to the Tuner, and would only do that if I had my scanner hooked up so I could monitor everything. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Night Furry Cam Vararam Intake Custom Long Tube Headers - Straight Pipes Self Tuned with HP Tuners

02-21-2017, 07:09 AM	#9
NYCEGUY01 Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: N. UTAH Posts: 24	Anyone have luck with a mailed tune in a sct or diablo for something like this ? Thinking of a ts stage 3 cam. Long tubes/full exhaust, Ported tb. I originally was planning on doing the exhaust then just paying a local shop to install the cam and tune it but the 2 local guys I know of don't return mesages ( pm, email, or phone). __________________ 2015 Velvet Blue 1LE

02-20-2017, 10:30 PM	#2
Raulo19 Drives: 2013 Dusk SS, 2017 Pacifica Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: San Antonio Posts: 95	Don't be tempted to run it hard and you'll be fine. As long as you make sure everything is sealed and hook up ALL sensors (I always forget one). Unless it's a not so mild cam, I can't imagine it causing problems.

02-20-2017, 10:30 PM	#3
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,692	Should start.. drive it to tuner is fine..just baby it though.

02-20-2017, 10:31 PM	#4
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,692	I know for my car, builder said it barely cranked over.

02-21-2017, 07:28 AM	#10
Hulk Drives: 2011 Synenergy Green 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pueblo, Co Posts: 557	I went with the GPI VVT SS3 cam, Ported heads, intake manifold tube mod, ported throttle body. Everything I needed was in the boxes. They sent me the initial tune. I turned the key and it fired up like normal only louder and then the nice cam sound came in. Still running it on the initial tune. I talked with Ryan to get what I needed. Awesome Customer support! Take pictures and when you disconnect anything put blue painter tape on it and write on it so you know where it goes. The blue tape is easy to spot so you do not miss something. __________________ 2011 Synenergy Green 2SS/RS Automatic.

02-21-2017, 08:07 AM	#11
NYCEGUY01 Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: N. UTAH Posts: 24	Im good with the actual install work. Not worried about that part at all. Just new to needing a computer to make it run. I was just gonna pay the shop to install the cam so they could tune it at the same time. Guess Im just old. __________________ 2015 Velvet Blue 1LE

02-21-2017, 09:19 AM	#13
JerTM Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 1,940	It's going to be tempermental, but it will run. I would contact JDP in Murray pretty quickly as their dyno fills up quickly. They are the ones who tuned mine the first time with the basic boltons, and the second time with the cam. Very happy with their tunes.

02-21-2017, 09:25 AM	#14
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	dynoSteve...seriously...why would you sink all the $$ into a car that run's on a computer and no tune? peace out... __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...