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OlePhu · 02-21-2017, 05:58 PM

I was walking through a Chevy dealer a couple of weeks ago looking for something a little more luxurious than my 13 year old Galant. Still a nice car but had 157,000 miles on it and the a/c broke ... not a good thing in Florida. I was looking at a pre-owned Lincoln MKZ, Buick Lacrosse and an Impala 2LT (which had everything I wanted and more but at a price.) and then I saw it ... a 2013 pumpkinish colored Camaro and when I looked closer, I noticed it was a 6 cylinder ... really? In a Camaro? Yeah, I get it ... fuel economy and all that but the salesman convinced me to give it a drive. Well I gotta say, with the 6 spd manual, it has plenty of power to do what I want. And, it only had 7100 miles on it; even had new car smell. So, I ended up agonizing for the next week but it's now in my garage.

At any rate, the issue I have is the previous owner did a muffler delete and my neighbors bedroom window is right next to our driveway so when I crank it up at 5:30 in the am, they're not too happy. Unfortunately, we get along or I wouldn't feel bad, but I do, so I'm looking at having some Magnaflow mufflers installed ... not to totally quiet the sound but to mellow it out. For the record, I know I have a 6 and it's not going to sound like my son's 5.0 GT 'stang and I'm okay with that ... I just don't want it to sound like a ricer either.

Now, my mechanic quoted me about $1200 for a cat back MBRP setup because he said he couldn't do an axle back due to the welding on the pipes. I stopped by a muffler shop and he said he can install axle back Magnafllows or Flowmasters for about $300 (difference between a good mechanic who doesn't do exhaust systems and a muffler guy). He has done it on quite a few Camaros and hasn't had a complaint so that was a fairly easy decision. So I'm looking at a 14" vs a 18" ... does it really make any difference in the sound/performance? Oh yeah, I've been listening to the MRT 2.0 soundclips and they sounds pretty bad as well ... nice throaty growl.

Thanks for your help

mydreamcar · 02-21-2017, 06:34 PM

Mrt2.0 all the way, loved mine when I had my v6. Great exhaust for a good price

sspade · 02-21-2017, 06:56 PM

MF x pipe and short body mufflers is an excellent setup. I had the x pipe and muffler delete originally and HATED IT. Obnoxiously loud and way too much drone.

Would definitely recommend my set up. Sounds deeper and meaner than stock but still refined and not obnoxious or excessive except maybe on cold starts and hard acceleration.

DokWatson · 02-22-2017, 10:58 AM

Park facing the other way.

kmarshall2121 · 02-22-2017, 01:04 PM

my Flowmasters sound incredible..

Silent... · 02-22-2017, 05:10 PM

There are a ton of threads in this section of the forum about exhaust. Best thing to do is read, read and read some more. If you don't mind drone, then your options are more. If you want less or no noticeable drone, then you have less options. Videos will not give you any idea of how much drone one brand and/or type has over another. When I first bought mine, I thought I'd be ok with the MRT V2 and the amount of drone that people were talking about, but I wasn't. When the windows were open and music on, I was ok with it. But with the windows up and even with music, forget about it. So I removed them and went back to stock. Actually, Friday I'm getting Magnaflow straight through ovals put on and I consulted quite a bit with a local shop before setting up the appointment to let them do it. Since they are not round, they are not supposed to have the drone that most rounds do.

kmarshall2121 · 02-22-2017, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent...

There are a ton of threads in this section of the forum about exhaust. Best thing to do is read, read and read some more. If you don't mind drone, then your options are more. If you want less or no noticeable drone, then you have less options. Videos will not give you any idea of how much drone one brand and/or type has over another. When I first bought mine, I thought I'd be ok with the MRT V2 and the amount of drone that people were talking about, but I wasn't. When the windows were open and music on, I was ok with it. But with the windows up and even with music, forget about it. So I removed them and went back to stock. Actually, Friday I'm getting Magnaflow straight through ovals put on and I consulted quite a bit with a local shop before setting up the appointment to let them do it. Since they are not round, they are not supposed to have the drone that most rounds do.

keep us posted. I love my FM, but would like to lessen the drone...

sspade · 02-22-2017, 06:45 PM

I have short body MF straight through ovals as well. And the MF x pipe. VERY HAPPY AND HIGHLY RECOMMEND.

Kenny Camaro · 02-22-2017, 06:55 PM

The ovals are supposed to help stop the drone.

OlePhu · 02-22-2017, 09:01 PM

1st of all, thanks for the responses. I've been doing a lot of reading and listening to a lot of sound clips and it can get confusing to read the different reviews. I've owned a 57 Chevy, 56 Nomad, 67 Camaro SS (which, unfortunately did not do good on ice), a 69 Chevelle SS, then to Ford trucks, an MG and finally a couple of Mitsubishi's so I've come full circle. Back in the day, glass packs were the thing and the po-po had less attitude but that's changed. So now, I'm looking for a more refined sound, something that makes a statement without being obnoxious.

The Magnaflow supposedly tones down the higher frequencies at higher rpm's (which is one thing I hate about the muffler delete I have now) to tone down the ricer sound. I had read that the MRT v2 setup also does something similar but perhaps that's just manufacturer hype. MF x pipe (thank you sspade) is definitely something to consider as well; lot of good feedback on that. Then there are the Dynamax who claim to control drone and they sound pretty throaty but no local dealers to confirm that with. I've also heard that the oval MF's help control drone like Silent... and Kenny mentioned so I'm beginning to realize that I'm using this as a sounding board and am probably leaning more towards the MF's but I'll have to get back with the muffler guy for more information. Sometimes I spend too much time analyzing but hopefully I can get mine installed next Monday. Silent...let us know how you like yours.

kmarshall2121-not to ignore you but my muffler guy thought they might be a little louder than I'm looking for.

dok-if I park the other way then the sound bounces off the garage door ... echo might be even worse.

On a side note, has anyone noticed any difference in performance or gas mileage after installing their systems?

Thanks again for the comments

derek1387 · 02-23-2017, 07:57 AM

You must do the Magnaflow 11386 resonated X pipe if you want to tame it down a
Bit and get rid of the drone.

Lacpac · 02-23-2017, 10:16 AM

Like my MRT 2.0. You could put a resonated x pipe in as well.

Silent... · 02-23-2017, 04:32 PM

I should be able to report back tomorrow evening on the install and results, including the exact part # that is being used. And yes, if this setup has any amount of drone that I don't like, then we can add the MF resonated x-pipe.

TVZ222 · 02-25-2017, 10:56 PM

I'm interested in this too. Would the resonators on the Solo Performance cats help with the drone on an axle back? I'm weighing a few different options at the moment, stuck between the MRT and the FM.

02-21-2017, 05:58 PM	#1
OlePhu Oldskool Drives: 2013 Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Treasure Coast FL Posts: 166 View My Garage	I've been seduced but she's a screamer I was walking through a Chevy dealer a couple of weeks ago looking for something a little more luxurious than my 13 year old Galant. Still a nice car but had 157,000 miles on it and the a/c broke ... not a good thing in Florida. I was looking at a pre-owned Lincoln MKZ, Buick Lacrosse and an Impala 2LT (which had everything I wanted and more but at a price.) and then I saw it ... a 2013 pumpkinish colored Camaro and when I looked closer, I noticed it was a 6 cylinder ... really? In a Camaro? Yeah, I get it ... fuel economy and all that but the salesman convinced me to give it a drive. Well I gotta say, with the 6 spd manual, it has plenty of power to do what I want. And, it only had 7100 miles on it; even had new car smell. So, I ended up agonizing for the next week but it's now in my garage. At any rate, the issue I have is the previous owner did a muffler delete and my neighbors bedroom window is right next to our driveway so when I crank it up at 5:30 in the am, they're not too happy. Unfortunately, we get along or I wouldn't feel bad, but I do, so I'm looking at having some Magnaflow mufflers installed ... not to totally quiet the sound but to mellow it out. For the record, I know I have a 6 and it's not going to sound like my son's 5.0 GT 'stang and I'm okay with that ... I just don't want it to sound like a ricer either. Now, my mechanic quoted me about $1200 for a cat back MBRP setup because he said he couldn't do an axle back due to the welding on the pipes. I stopped by a muffler shop and he said he can install axle back Magnafllows or Flowmasters for about $300 (difference between a good mechanic who doesn't do exhaust systems and a muffler guy). He has done it on quite a few Camaros and hasn't had a complaint so that was a fairly easy decision. So I'm looking at a 14" vs a 18" ... does it really make any difference in the sound/performance? Oh yeah, I've been listening to the MRT 2.0 soundclips and they sounds pretty bad as well ... nice throaty growl. Thanks for your help

02-21-2017, 06:34 PM	#2
mydreamcar My Dream Car Drives: 2011 SIM LS3 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: staten island Posts: 1,534	Mrt2.0 all the way, loved mine when I had my v6. Great exhaust for a good price __________________ CAI intake/ADM Scoop/Stainless Power Headers/Dynatech cat back exhaust/Vitesse Throttle Control/ Ported Throttle Body/QTP Electric Cutouts/ 3.91 gears and janetty rear posi/ Tuned by Janetty racing

02-21-2017, 06:56 PM	#3
sspade Drives: 2015 Camaro LFX A6 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 675	MF x pipe and short body mufflers is an excellent setup. I had the x pipe and muffler delete originally and HATED IT. Obnoxiously loud and way too much drone. Would definitely recommend my set up. Sounds deeper and meaner than stock but still refined and not obnoxious or excessive except maybe on cold starts and hard acceleration. __________________ Cold Air Inductions CAI : Apex Air Scoop / WW Relocate Kit : JacFab Intake Manifold Spacer : Overkill 80mm Throttle Body : Overkill Tuned : MagnaFlow Cat-Back Exhaust : Elite Engineering Catch Can : ZL1 Strut Tower Brace : Custom Tunnel Brace : JPSS Caster Locks : JPSS 32mm Rear Sway Bar : JPSS Billet Radius Arm Bushings : Pegasus Solid Sub Frame Bushings : 1LE Brembo Conversion : B&M 70273 Trans Cooler

02-22-2017, 10:58 AM	#4
DokWatson Dok Drives: 2015 Camaro 1LS M6 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Alaska Posts: 188	Park facing the other way. __________________ Hoonigan/Technician Check out my channel. https://www.youtube.com/user/AK49Watson

02-22-2017, 05:10 PM	#6
Silent... Drives: 2012 2LT RS White Born: 11/10/11 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 313	There are a ton of threads in this section of the forum about exhaust. Best thing to do is read, read and read some more. If you don't mind drone, then your options are more. If you want less or no noticeable drone, then you have less options. Videos will not give you any idea of how much drone one brand and/or type has over another. When I first bought mine, I thought I'd be ok with the MRT V2 and the amount of drone that people were talking about, but I wasn't. When the windows were open and music on, I was ok with it. But with the windows up and even with music, forget about it. So I removed them and went back to stock. Actually, Friday I'm getting Magnaflow straight through ovals put on and I consulted quite a bit with a local shop before setting up the appointment to let them do it. Since they are not round, they are not supposed to have the drone that most rounds do. __________________ Grey Hockey Stripes; Heritage Grill; GM GFX - Unpainted Argent Gray; GM Dovetail Spoiler; Rivercity Creations custom painted rear bowtie, RS & Taillight Bezels; MRR M017 Graphite Wheels; Nitto NT555 G2; ACS 4Teen Heat Extractor RX Catch Can;CAI; MF Exhaust; VMAX CNC Spiral Ported TB; Overkill Stage 1 Supercharger System; Hotchkis Comp Sway Bar Set w/ End Links, Cadillac CTSV 4 Piston Brembos on all corners with SS Black Hat Rotors Youtube Channel - HPDE Driving Videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpO...8aw6hgX3O1Uh7A

02-22-2017, 01:04 PM	#5
kmarshall2121 Drives: 2012 45th Anniversary Edition Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,618 View My Garage	my Flowmasters sound incredible..

02-22-2017, 06:45 PM	#8
sspade Drives: 2015 Camaro LFX A6 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 675	I have short body MF straight through ovals as well. And the MF x pipe. VERY HAPPY AND HIGHLY RECOMMEND. __________________ Cold Air Inductions CAI : Apex Air Scoop / WW Relocate Kit : JacFab Intake Manifold Spacer : Overkill 80mm Throttle Body : Overkill Tuned : MagnaFlow Cat-Back Exhaust : Elite Engineering Catch Can : ZL1 Strut Tower Brace : Custom Tunnel Brace : JPSS Caster Locks : JPSS 32mm Rear Sway Bar : JPSS Billet Radius Arm Bushings : Pegasus Solid Sub Frame Bushings : 1LE Brembo Conversion : B&M 70273 Trans Cooler

02-22-2017, 06:55 PM	#9
Kenny Camaro Account Suspended Drives: 2013 1LT RS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 3,494	The ovals are supposed to help stop the drone.

02-22-2017, 09:01 PM	#10
OlePhu Oldskool Drives: 2013 Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Treasure Coast FL Posts: 166 View My Garage	1st of all, thanks for the responses. I've been doing a lot of reading and listening to a lot of sound clips and it can get confusing to read the different reviews. I've owned a 57 Chevy, 56 Nomad, 67 Camaro SS (which, unfortunately did not do good on ice), a 69 Chevelle SS, then to Ford trucks, an MG and finally a couple of Mitsubishi's so I've come full circle. Back in the day, glass packs were the thing and the po-po had less attitude but that's changed. So now, I'm looking for a more refined sound, something that makes a statement without being obnoxious. The Magnaflow supposedly tones down the higher frequencies at higher rpm's (which is one thing I hate about the muffler delete I have now) to tone down the ricer sound. I had read that the MRT v2 setup also does something similar but perhaps that's just manufacturer hype. MF x pipe (thank you sspade) is definitely something to consider as well; lot of good feedback on that. Then there are the Dynamax who claim to control drone and they sound pretty throaty but no local dealers to confirm that with. I've also heard that the oval MF's help control drone like Silent... and Kenny mentioned so I'm beginning to realize that I'm using this as a sounding board and am probably leaning more towards the MF's but I'll have to get back with the muffler guy for more information. Sometimes I spend too much time analyzing but hopefully I can get mine installed next Monday. Silent...let us know how you like yours. kmarshall2121-not to ignore you but my muffler guy thought they might be a little louder than I'm looking for. dok-if I park the other way then the sound bounces off the garage door ... echo might be even worse. On a side note, has anyone noticed any difference in performance or gas mileage after installing their systems? Thanks again for the comments

02-23-2017, 07:57 AM	#11
derek1387 Drives: 2015 1LS Red V6 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: St Joseph, MO Posts: 1,849	You must do the Magnaflow 11386 resonated X pipe if you want to tame it down a Bit and get rid of the drone. __________________ Sponsors: Overkill Motorsport BCS Auto JacFab Machining APDEG Dream Gear Mobile Audio Thanks to Will @ Overkill Motorsports, Jason @ JacFab, Jim @ Ohio Speed, Brandon at Dream Gear, and the boys at Randy Curnow Chevrolet 5th Gen V6 Performance Facebook Group

02-23-2017, 10:16 AM	#12
Lacpac Drives: 2012 Crystal Red Tintcoat RS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 491 View My Garage	Like my MRT 2.0. You could put a resonated x pipe in as well.

02-23-2017, 04:32 PM	#13
Silent... Drives: 2012 2LT RS White Born: 11/10/11 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 313	I should be able to report back tomorrow evening on the install and results, including the exact part # that is being used. And yes, if this setup has any amount of drone that I don't like, then we can add the MF resonated x-pipe. __________________ Grey Hockey Stripes; Heritage Grill; GM GFX - Unpainted Argent Gray; GM Dovetail Spoiler; Rivercity Creations custom painted rear bowtie, RS & Taillight Bezels; MRR M017 Graphite Wheels; Nitto NT555 G2; ACS 4Teen Heat Extractor RX Catch Can;CAI; MF Exhaust; VMAX CNC Spiral Ported TB; Overkill Stage 1 Supercharger System; Hotchkis Comp Sway Bar Set w/ End Links, Cadillac CTSV 4 Piston Brembos on all corners with SS Black Hat Rotors Youtube Channel - HPDE Driving Videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpO...8aw6hgX3O1Uh7A

02-25-2017, 10:56 PM	#14
TVZ222 Drives: 2015 Camaro LS Join Date: May 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 5 View My Garage	I'm interested in this too. Would the resonators on the Solo Performance cats help with the drone on an axle back? I'm weighing a few different options at the moment, stuck between the MRT and the FM.