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NoleChris · 08-10-2017, 01:15 PM

Hey Guys, I have been trying to track down a Summit White ZL1 for a while in my area and finally found one. It is a 2013 with 14,xxx miles for about $35k. I thought this was a very fair deal. So, since i travel for work, when i got home last week i called the dealership to see if they still have it. Good news, they did! Bad news, a tech that works there took it for a test drive and "hit a mailbox". No one at the dealership believes him but they cant prove other wise. Below are some pics, what do you guys think? They said they are ordering a new hood, fender, headlight, and door, no structural damage. My thought is, cars never really go back together perfectly so i'm skeptical. But, given the right price (you can bet i'm going to try to talk them down after they wrecked it) i may still be inclined. I am just so picky with my vehicles and dont want to spend this much on a car that isn't perfect. Also, Because it is going on 5 years old, and i know about the isolator problem, I am not sure of the factory warranty still existing or not. What do you guys think?

102SS · 08-10-2017, 01:27 PM

Hit them with $30k

You might get them to $32.

No sunroof or black 10 spokes plus the accident equals a big discount to me.

zipnz · 08-10-2017, 01:58 PM

Does the car have any mods? If you are as picky as you say that you are (I'm very picky myself) $2k either way will not ultimately help because once the newness has worn off, EVERYTIME that you look at that car you will always be reminded that it's been wrecked and put back together. Pop open the hood, hmm, can you look at the fender mounting bolts and tell that they have been removed? Am I positive that the bodyshop put everything back together just as the factory did? What will the Carfax look like now?
Cars are only original once...
This is how I would look at it.

NoleChris · 08-10-2017, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zipnz

Does the car have any mods? If you are as picky as you say that you are (I'm very picky myself) $2k either way will not ultimately help because once the newness has worn off, EVERYTIME that you look at that car you will always be reminded that it's been wrecked and put back together. Pop open the hood, hmm, can you look at the fender mounting bolts and tell that they have been removed? Am I positive that the bodyshop put everything back together just as the factory did? What will the Carfax look like now?
Cars are only original once...
This is how I would look at it.

That's basically my thought process. There arent any mods, its a one owner car, super clean. But, even if the body shop does put it back perfectly, i will always know that some tech hammered the gas and put it in a ditch/hit something. Like i said if the price is right, i may still be interested.

Inferno13 · 08-10-2017, 02:53 PM

My 02. is it never hurts to ask, but I doubt they are going to move mountains on the price.

I'm sure they know they will be in a better bargaining position when the car is properly repaired.

JB'sZL1 · 08-10-2017, 06:29 PM

My $0.02:

No car is "perfect." Nothing is. If it's a minor bender, and all the parts and appendages align as they should, as others said: hit 'em with $30k or $32K...it is worth less now that it's been in an accident. If you have the cash it should be an easy sale if you're only $1k or $2k apart.

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 08-10-2017, 06:51 PM

I would only buy it if it was sub 30k. Anything over 30k and I'd be out. You can find a clean, non crashed, ZL1 for 35k all day long.

STUNNAH · 08-11-2017, 01:34 AM

I think you answered your own question... Your picky and that's a good thing...

ISurvivednmu · 08-11-2017, 06:36 AM

Pass on it.

lbls1 · 08-11-2017, 07:36 AM

Well at 35k you are getting a repaired one, but for 40k or less you could get a whole ZL1 with better mileage. I would walk.

WoodBoss · 08-11-2017, 07:43 AM

If you could get it for about $31K I would go for it. A bumper and a hood is really not very hard to replace. I would make the deal right now as you have leverage, contingent on your final inspection of the vehicle of course.

KaBoom1701 · 08-11-2017, 09:37 AM

Seems like too much BS to me...

I'd offer 28-30k max or walk away.

silversleeper · 08-11-2017, 10:12 AM

Agree with everyone else. $30k MAX !. But first think if you would be ok with having a repaired car. If it would bother you with the $5k lower price, then walk.
Like said above, IF...you would like the car, offer them $28k and don't go over $30k at all. If they don't want to move it, there are others if you have time and effort to look.

A bumper cover is one thing, but a hood and door, that wasn't just a scratch that would buff right out. Doesn't mean the car is junk but does mean price should reflect that.

Skipdaddie · 08-12-2017, 09:36 AM

I would want to know what the Carfax says, as that will impact the true value of the car.

08-10-2017, 01:15 PM	#1
NoleChris Drives: 2015 Jeep Cherokee Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2	Opinion on buying this ZL1 or not Hey Guys, I have been trying to track down a Summit White ZL1 for a while in my area and finally found one. It is a 2013 with 14,xxx miles for about $35k. I thought this was a very fair deal. So, since i travel for work, when i got home last week i called the dealership to see if they still have it. Good news, they did! Bad news, a tech that works there took it for a test drive and "hit a mailbox". No one at the dealership believes him but they cant prove other wise. Below are some pics, what do you guys think? They said they are ordering a new hood, fender, headlight, and door, no structural damage. My thought is, cars never really go back together perfectly so i'm skeptical. But, given the right price (you can bet i'm going to try to talk them down after they wrecked it) i may still be inclined. I am just so picky with my vehicles and dont want to spend this much on a car that isn't perfect. Also, Because it is going on 5 years old, and i know about the isolator problem, I am not sure of the factory warranty still existing or not. What do you guys think? Attached Images

08-10-2017, 01:27 PM	#2
102SS waiting at the tree Drives: SIM 2010 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Niagara Falls Posts: 4,542	Hit them with $30k You might get them to $32. No sunroof or black 10 spokes plus the accident equals a big discount to me. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS A6 Just a few bolt-ons and appearance doo dads

08-11-2017, 01:34 AM	#8
STUNNAH "BEASTM*DE" Drives: 2013 ZL1 Black Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,655 View My Garage	I think you answered your own question... Your picky and that's a good thing... __________________ Vengeance Racing Stage 1 Kit 575rwhp, 569 rwtq... Rims powder coated gloss black...BFG'S Comp 2 A/S... Dual 10" Kicker Comp S Subs 1200w...

08-11-2017, 07:36 AM	#10
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,073	Well at 35k you are getting a repaired one, but for 40k or less you could get a whole ZL1 with better mileage. I would walk. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic* '25 Silverado 1500 High Country 6.2L

08-11-2017, 09:37 AM	#12
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,631	Seems like too much BS to me... I'd offer 28-30k max or walk away. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

08-10-2017, 01:58 PM	#3
zipnz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Ashen Gray Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: TX Posts: 12	Does the car have any mods? If you are as picky as you say that you are (I'm very picky myself) $2k either way will not ultimately help because once the newness has worn off, EVERYTIME that you look at that car you will always be reminded that it's been wrecked and put back together. Pop open the hood, hmm, can you look at the fender mounting bolts and tell that they have been removed? Am I positive that the bodyshop put everything back together just as the factory did? What will the Carfax look like now? Cars are only original once... This is how I would look at it.

08-10-2017, 02:53 PM	#5
Inferno13 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 38	My 02. is it never hurts to ask, but I doubt they are going to move mountains on the price. I'm sure they know they will be in a better bargaining position when the car is properly repaired.

08-10-2017, 06:29 PM	#6
JB'sZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 and 2019 Ram Laramie Join Date: May 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 1,259	My $0.02: No car is "perfect." Nothing is. If it's a minor bender, and all the parts and appendages align as they should, as others said: hit 'em with $30k or $32K...it is worth less now that it's been in an accident. If you have the cash it should be an easy sale if you're only $1k or $2k apart.

08-10-2017, 06:51 PM	#7
Can'tHave2MuchHP Drives: Fast Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,696	I would only buy it if it was sub 30k. Anything over 30k and I'd be out. You can find a clean, non crashed, ZL1 for 35k all day long.

08-11-2017, 06:36 AM	#9
ISurvivednmu Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 85	Pass on it.

08-11-2017, 07:43 AM	#11
WoodBoss "Old School" Drives: 2010 2SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sherrills Ford, NC Posts: 1,294	If you could get it for about $31K I would go for it. A bumper and a hood is really not very hard to replace. I would make the deal right now as you have leverage, contingent on your final inspection of the vehicle of course.

08-11-2017, 10:12 AM	#13
silversleeper Big Crow Drives: '13 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: California Posts: 1,551	Agree with everyone else. $30k MAX !. But first think if you would be ok with having a repaired car. If it would bother you with the $5k lower price, then walk. Like said above, IF...you would like the car, offer them $28k and don't go over $30k at all. If they don't want to move it, there are others if you have time and effort to look. A bumper cover is one thing, but a hood and door, that wasn't just a scratch that would buff right out. Doesn't mean the car is junk but does mean price should reflect that.

08-12-2017, 09:36 AM	#14
Skipdaddie Drives: 2017 F350 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 12	I would want to know what the Carfax says, as that will impact the true value of the car. __________________ 2018 ZL1 A10 2019 Raptor