Which is better? Powder Coat or Paint for Brembos? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

*TAG UR IT* · 11-04-2009, 02:39 AM

I want blue Brembos.

I want the blue to stick around for a while.

I'd have to take off all 4 tires, remove the calipers, strip them from their pistons, etc....sandblast them, and then have the powder coated.

I was told the powder coating would run $80 for all 4 calipers. I'd have to find the sand blasting on my own.

What do ya'll think? Any performance shops that can chime in and set me in a right direction?

zebra · 11-04-2009, 02:51 AM

i ain't really an expert, but i do believe the powder coat will be better in the long run than paint

*TAG UR IT* · 11-04-2009, 03:16 AM

i hear this is the case too....but someone was telling me earlier that certain issues can arise when powdercoating...cracking, corners not being covered properly, etc.

It began getting me concerned as this was the way I wanted to go.

IPS Brandon · 11-04-2009, 09:10 AM

Powder coating it going to create the strongest bond for the *paint* in this case powder to stick to the caliper. The paint will be hardened and more resistant to rocks, and chips, and acid. Although over time it will be susceptible to possible fading.

If your powdercoating the calipers the proper way, is to completely disassemble the caliper and pistons, remove all seals. Sand/media blast, and then parts wash to remove any fluids or oils off the calipers. Then go to the powder booth to pre heat the material, coat, then bake, and cure. You then will also need some way to place the brembo sticker back on the caliper whether someone who makes a copy of the decal, or dealer may be able to find something.

80 dollars for all four is a little low in my estimate. But if they are offering, so be it.

You can also just spary the calipers and then clear coat them, and hope they hope up.

Regards

Doc · 11-04-2009, 09:24 AM

If you want to color them Tag, I'd just paint them. You aren't building a for-show-only car and the trouble of getting these powder-coated just isn't worth it IMO. Get a paint for brake calipers that can handle the heat and just make a weekend project out of it.

Chris@Livernois · 11-04-2009, 09:52 AM

We have a customer with an Aston Martin Vantage and he thought silver calipers looked boring and the Aston Martin decal looked cheap. He asked that we paint them and CNC Vantage into them... he was very happy with the result and they have held up great to daily driving and road racing.

-Rick

Bell040 · 11-04-2009, 09:53 AM

why do you have to remove all of the seals for powdercoating?

Doesn't the powder cure happen ~400°F?... I am pretty sure that your brakes see well over 400°F just driving around town.

Rick - what kind of paint did you use?

Chris@Livernois · 11-04-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell040

why do you have to remove all of the seals for powdercoating?

Doesn't the powder cure happen ~400°F?... I am pretty sure that your brakes see well over 400°F just driving around town.

Rick - what kind of paint did you use?

I'm not sure what brand it was, but it was a normal automotive based paint.

-Rick

CDBiker220 · 11-04-2009, 10:41 AM

Ive used paint on normal cast calipers that lasted for years...and only cost a few bucks for a can of high temp paint. I believe they make brake specific paint even though i used hi temp engine paint

ZZcamaro · 11-04-2009, 12:36 PM

According to Brembo...

You should be doing a paint over powdercoat... SO you would do a nice powder coat base whcih will stand up to the direct heating of the brakes, then you would be painting your final colors over that.

I will probably do a base coat of powder, then apply decals and paint over...that way it has a two color look with the lettering I want. I may then do a clear powder or ceramic clear over everything to seal it.

*TAG UR IT* · 11-04-2009, 01:20 PM

Some great info. Thanks guys!

tones2SS · 11-04-2009, 01:26 PM

Tag, my buddy owns a body/speed shop nearby and I asked this question one day. (He'll actually be building my '69 pro-touring Camaro when I get to that point in life!!!) Like someone had posted earlier, when the powder coat does begin to chip or peel away, it does so in larger pieces than paint. He said paint is the way to go because you can do a better job with paint and it will last just as long, if not longer. just make sure you go with someone reputable.

Hope this helps.

WeeZee · 11-04-2009, 03:32 PM

powder coat, it does not chip real quick or fade fast like paint will

*TAG UR IT* · 11-05-2009, 12:13 AM

Oh boy....looks like this is going BOTH ways FAST!

11-04-2009, 02:39 AM	#1
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	Which is better? Powder Coat or Paint for Brembos? I want blue Brembos. I want the blue to stick around for a while. I'd have to take off all 4 tires, remove the calipers, strip them from their pistons, etc....sandblast them, and then have the powder coated. I was told the powder coating would run $80 for all 4 calipers. I'd have to find the sand blasting on my own. What do ya'll think? Any performance shops that can chime in and set me in a right direction?

11-04-2009, 02:51 AM	#2
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	i ain't really an expert, but i do believe the powder coat will be better in the long run than paint __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

11-04-2009, 09:24 AM	#5
Doc Dances With Mustangs Drives: 2010 1SS/RS MT Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 3,819 View My Garage	If you want to color them Tag, I'd just paint them. You aren't building a for-show-only car and the trouble of getting these powder-coated just isn't worth it IMO. Get a paint for brake calipers that can handle the heat and just make a weekend project out of it. __________________ Blue Angel is here!! 1SS/RS LS3 M6 IBM

11-04-2009, 09:53 AM	#7
Bell040 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: B'ham, Alabama Posts: 2,458 View My Garage	why do you have to remove all of the seals for powdercoating? Doesn't the powder cure happen ~400°F?... I am pretty sure that your brakes see well over 400°F just driving around town. Rick - what kind of paint did you use? __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09 Blacked out, Cammed (Lunati Voodoo 233/245, .578/.598 @114°, +4°), ARH LTs, VR OTR CAI, Cutouts, and lots of other fun mods.

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11-04-2009, 03:16 AM	#3
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	i hear this is the case too....but someone was telling me earlier that certain issues can arise when powdercoating...cracking, corners not being covered properly, etc. It began getting me concerned as this was the way I wanted to go.

11-04-2009, 09:10 AM	#4
IPS Brandon Drives: 2010 Camaro SS black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 907	Powder coating it going to create the strongest bond for the paint in this case powder to stick to the caliper. The paint will be hardened and more resistant to rocks, and chips, and acid. Although over time it will be susceptible to possible fading. If your powdercoating the calipers the proper way, is to completely disassemble the caliper and pistons, remove all seals. Sand/media blast, and then parts wash to remove any fluids or oils off the calipers. Then go to the powder booth to pre heat the material, coat, then bake, and cure. You then will also need some way to place the brembo sticker back on the caliper whether someone who makes a copy of the decal, or dealer may be able to find something. 80 dollars for all four is a little low in my estimate. But if they are offering, so be it. You can also just spary the calipers and then clear coat them, and hope they hope up. Regards

11-04-2009, 09:52 AM	#6
Chris@Livernois Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dearborn Heights, MI Posts: 829	We have a customer with an Aston Martin Vantage and he thought silver calipers looked boring and the Aston Martin decal looked cheap. He asked that we paint them and CNC Vantage into them... he was very happy with the result and they have held up great to daily driving and road racing. -Rick

11-04-2009, 10:41 AM	#9
CDBiker220 Drives: 98 camaro z28 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: pittsburgh, pa Posts: 189	Ive used paint on normal cast calipers that lasted for years...and only cost a few bucks for a can of high temp paint. I believe they make brake specific paint even though i used hi temp engine paint

11-04-2009, 12:36 PM	#10
ZZcamaro Drives: 2SS w/ ZZ427 Package!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,699	According to Brembo... You should be doing a paint over powdercoat... SO you would do a nice powder coat base whcih will stand up to the direct heating of the brakes, then you would be painting your final colors over that. I will probably do a base coat of powder, then apply decals and paint over...that way it has a two color look with the lettering I want. I may then do a clear powder or ceramic clear over everything to seal it.

11-04-2009, 01:20 PM	#11
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	Some great info. Thanks guys!

11-04-2009, 01:26 PM	#12
tones2SS Drives: '13 Roush S3 '16 Ram Sport 4X4 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,096	Tag, my buddy owns a body/speed shop nearby and I asked this question one day. (He'll actually be building my '69 pro-touring Camaro when I get to that point in life!!!) Like someone had posted earlier, when the powder coat does begin to chip or peel away, it does so in larger pieces than paint. He said paint is the way to go because you can do a better job with paint and it will last just as long, if not longer. just make sure you go with someone reputable. Hope this helps.

11-04-2009, 03:32 PM	#13
WeeZee Drives: SuperSport's Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 382	powder coat, it does not chip real quick or fade fast like paint will

11-05-2009, 12:13 AM	#14
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	Oh boy....looks like this is going BOTH ways FAST!