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jeffny09 · 11-17-2009, 02:21 AM

should i not? im not sure if i could do it but i dont want to pay some crazy price to have it done

so what do i need to know?

brandotron · 11-17-2009, 02:31 AM

Look 'dis
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=23

edit: nevermind, you meant suspension. This link is for valve springs.

JDP Motorsports · 11-17-2009, 02:58 PM

It's a job that can be completed in a driveway in roughly 3-4 hours. You'll need a good Jack, jack stands, strut spring compressor and basic hand tools.

Kind regards,

jeffny09 · 11-17-2009, 03:07 PM

thanks- my friends and i will attempt to do this

Jeanius · 11-17-2009, 03:36 PM

Is there anything other than alignment that needs to be done after a spring install?

Michael_Js · 11-17-2009, 03:38 PM

That's all for my car

Alignment this Friday...I was told to let the car settle in a bit before the alignment. So I waited...200-300 miles or so.

Jeanius · 11-17-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael_Js

That's all for my car

Alignment this Friday...I was told to let the car settle in a bit before the alignment. So I waited...200-300 miles or so.

Cool, ive seen some people post about Camber/Caster/Toe, i have no idea what those are, or who would be able to adjust them

Michael_Js · 11-17-2009, 03:57 PM

Yes, those are alignment terms. See this FAQ: http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoAlignment.dos

Discount Tire does not do alignments though...Your local Chevy dealer does and I was quoted around $108.

BLACK10 · 11-17-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffny09

should i not? im not sure if i could do it but i dont want to pay some crazy price to have it done

so what do i need to know?

i've lowered 3 camaro's so far, let me know if i can help you.

right off my head, youll need:

15/16 or 21mm wrench
24mm socket
7mm socket(to undo front swaybar,hold backup with 15mm wrench)
21mm socket
40,45 torx drive bits
15mm socket
18mm socket
15mm wrench
18mm wrench
10"-12" extension

Chris-10 · 11-17-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACK10

i've lowered 3 camaro's so far, let me know if i can help you.

right off my head, youll need:

15/16 or 21mm wrench
24mm socket
7mm socket(to undo front swaybar,hold backup with 15mm wrench)
21mm socket
40,45 torx drive bits
15mm socket
18mm socket
15mm wrench
18mm wrench
10"-12" extension

did you do the alignment right away, or as one of the other posts says let the car settle a little first ?

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 11-17-2009, 10:53 PM

There are several issues on alignments that need to to be considered when dropping the Camaro:

1. There is no camber alignment bolt in the front end. Therefore it becomes more of a challenge just to put it back into the same location.

2. When dropping the rear, we have found the rear camber adjustment becomes very limited and does not have enough throw to be able to put the rear cambers where we like to to promote best reduction in understeer.

Pedders makes 3 alignment kits for the Camaro:
1. A front kit that includes the camber adjuster bolt, and a set of eccentrics that will allow you to adjust front caster, which is not adjustable in OE configuration
2. A rear kit that includes new hardware to adjust the rear cambers and toes.
3. A kit that includes both front and rear.

The Pedders kits use lazer cut eccentrics that relocate the center hole to allow a far greater throw than OE and come with a life time warranty.

They are also cad plated for corrosion protection. Here is a picture of the full kit:

thanks
mike
dms

Bruce@raymondsperformance · 11-17-2009, 11:00 PM

I have been doing alignments for along time .I would put 200-300 miles on the car before the alignment to let them set because they all do.If you don't want to wait, ask the alignment shop if they will recheck it after a few miles or after about 30 days.They may have to touch it up a bit but you will be happier with it, not mention not ruining a set of tires.

Mark-HD · 11-17-2009, 11:30 PM

How much is the whole kit?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dms

There are several issues on alignments that need to to be considered when dropping the Camaro:

1. There is no camber alignment bolt in the front end. Therefore it becomes more of a challenge just to put it back into the same location.

2. When dropping the rear, we have found the rear camber adjustment becomes very limited and does not have enough throw to be able to put the rear cambers where we like to to promote best reduction in understeer.

Pedders makes 3 alignment kits for the Camaro:
1. A front kit that includes the camber adjuster bolt, and a set of eccentrics that will allow you to adjust front caster, which is not adjustable in OE configuration
2. A rear kit that includes new hardware to adjust the rear cambers and toes.
3. A kit that includes both front and rear.

The Pedders kits use lazer cut eccentrics that relocate the center hole to allow a far greater throw than OE and come with a life time warranty.

They are also cad plated for corrosion protection. Here is a picture of the full kit:

thanks
mike
dms

Michael_Js · 11-18-2009, 12:11 AM

Yes, +1 on the price. Then, will an alignment shop know what to do with these? The camber alignment bolts in the front end are obvious as I've seen the empty bolt hole.

thanks,
Michael J.

11-17-2009, 02:21 AM	#1
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11-17-2009, 02:31 AM	#2
brandotron I am the internets. Drives: dangerously Join Date: May 2009 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 12,571 View My Garage	Look 'dis http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=23 edit: nevermind, you meant suspension. This link is for valve springs. __________________ Last edited by brandotron; 11-17-2009 at 11:46 AM.

11-17-2009, 03:07 PM	#4
jeffny09 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new york Posts: 5,618	thanks- my friends and i will attempt to do this __________________ top 10 reason why real men drive stick. 10. A manual transmission is the ultimate in control 9. You can use automotive jargon and not sound like a total tool 8. You can't spell "manual" without "man" 7. Manual transmissions prove you can do more than one thing at a time 6. You can't drift in an auto 5. You can't pull fancy moves in an automatic 4. You get better fuel economy with a stick 3. You’ll never look like a chump if you can drive stick 2. Manual transmission cars are faster 1. Women like a guy who is good with his hands.

11-17-2009, 03:38 PM	#6
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	That's all for my car Alignment this Friday...I was told to let the car settle in a bit before the alignment. So I waited...200-300 miles or so. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

11-17-2009, 03:57 PM	#8
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	Yes, those are alignment terms. See this FAQ: http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoAlignment.dos Discount Tire does not do alignments though...Your local Chevy dealer does and I was quoted around $108. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

11-17-2009, 02:58 PM	#3
JDP Motorsports Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/ 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sandy, Utah Posts: 3,256	It's a job that can be completed in a driveway in roughly 3-4 hours. You'll need a good Jack, jack stands, strut spring compressor and basic hand tools. Kind regards,

11-17-2009, 03:36 PM	#5
Jeanius Drives: Blk/Blk 2018 Sierra SLT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden State Posts: 2,925	Is there anything other than alignment that needs to be done after a spring install?

11-17-2009, 10:53 PM	#11
Info@PeddersUSA.com Drives: 5th Gen Rental Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New England Posts: 1,901	There are several issues on alignments that need to to be considered when dropping the Camaro: 1. There is no camber alignment bolt in the front end. Therefore it becomes more of a challenge just to put it back into the same location. 2. When dropping the rear, we have found the rear camber adjustment becomes very limited and does not have enough throw to be able to put the rear cambers where we like to to promote best reduction in understeer. Pedders makes 3 alignment kits for the Camaro: 1. A front kit that includes the camber adjuster bolt, and a set of eccentrics that will allow you to adjust front caster, which is not adjustable in OE configuration 2. A rear kit that includes new hardware to adjust the rear cambers and toes. 3. A kit that includes both front and rear. The Pedders kits use lazer cut eccentrics that relocate the center hole to allow a far greater throw than OE and come with a life time warranty. They are also cad plated for corrosion protection. Here is a picture of the full kit: thanks mike dms

11-17-2009, 11:00 PM	#12
Bruce@raymondsperformance Drives: 2014 Z28 camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 705	I have been doing alignments for along time .I would put 200-300 miles on the car before the alignment to let them set because they all do.If you don't want to wait, ask the alignment shop if they will recheck it after a few miles or after about 30 days.They may have to touch it up a bit but you will be happier with it, not mention not ruining a set of tires.

11-18-2009, 12:11 AM	#14
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	Yes, +1 on the price. Then, will an alignment shop know what to do with these? The camber alignment bolts in the front end are obvious as I've seen the empty bolt hole. thanks, Michael J. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

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