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Standard · 11-19-2009, 05:28 PM

I've driven around for years in an LS1 with a short-throw shifter (B&M ripper), with the stock leather-wrapped Camaro ball. Short throw, fairly stiff but positive.

I was looking for thoughts from people who've used the alternatives in daily driving.

I found the short-throw very useful in daily driving. Every shift was a memorized more, 1-2 = closing my hand, 2-3 with thumb, 3-4 fingertips under the ball pulling back, 4-5 by reversing hand and putting it on the LEFT of the ball thumb-down. . . . 5-3 by closing hand then pushing the ball with the heel of my hand. . . .

But I noticed that, for all these moves, I approach the stick from different directions.

The benefit of the Pistol grip seems obvious for a hard 1-2; but I'm wondering if the differences go beyond racing and the asthetics.

Looks and drag racing aside, is a pistol-grip shift handle, or a T-bar, really as convenient in day to day driving?

Any thoughts appreciated, especially for people who have tried multiple types, over time, over their short-throw shifters.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 11-19-2009, 06:26 PM

I got a 2ss back on 6-2-09 and on the next day or so i found a thread on this site from a member asking if there was a member that had a m6 to test a Short throw shifter.

That member was from Hurst and the shifter is the one that is on a lot of cars on this forum, If you do a search you can find some of the threads on the shifter.

The shifter was put on the car with 750 mi on the car and now that car has 18,750 mi+, At the start of the testing i had the white ball on the top and it was a good fit and feel to the shifter, After some time a asked if i can put on the T-handle For some more testing and i have to tell you that the T-handle is for me the best thing you can put on the shifter.

To shift from 1-2 i use my finger tips 2-3 is the heel of the hand and 3-4 is the same as 1-2 and same for the rest of the gate, The only i used a pistol-grip shift handle was the OEM one and it was OK but i can do with something that is better.

Standard · 11-19-2009, 11:32 PM

I see you're in Arizona, and I guess your car's seen some sun. . . .

How are metallic shift knobs or t-bar after they've been soaking in the sun?

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 11-20-2009, 08:25 AM

Hot as a it can get but i am getting a cover for it.

Standard · 11-20-2009, 09:48 AM

Interested in the cover. You mean a cover that you remove before you drive or something to wrap it in?

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 11-20-2009, 10:01 AM

I went to a upholster for him to make me a lather wrap will get some pics up soon.

franknbeans · 11-20-2009, 10:08 AM

Good topic, I am considering the Pistol grip for my Hurst.

11-19-2009, 05:28 PM	#1
Standard Drives: 2023 Sharkskin ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 153	Ball, Pistol Grip, T-Bar on an M6 short-throw - thoughts? I've driven around for years in an LS1 with a short-throw shifter (B&M ripper), with the stock leather-wrapped Camaro ball. Short throw, fairly stiff but positive. I was looking for thoughts from people who've used the alternatives in daily driving. I found the short-throw very useful in daily driving. Every shift was a memorized more, 1-2 = closing my hand, 2-3 with thumb, 3-4 fingertips under the ball pulling back, 4-5 by reversing hand and putting it on the LEFT of the ball thumb-down. . . . 5-3 by closing hand then pushing the ball with the heel of my hand. . . . But I noticed that, for all these moves, I approach the stick from different directions. The benefit of the Pistol grip seems obvious for a hard 1-2; but I'm wondering if the differences go beyond racing and the asthetics. Looks and drag racing aside, is a pistol-grip shift handle, or a T-bar, really as convenient in day to day driving? Any thoughts appreciated, especially for people who have tried multiple types, over time, over their short-throw shifters.

11-20-2009, 10:08 AM	#7
franknbeans Whipped Drives: 2010 CAMARO Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pittsburgh-ish - PA Posts: 4,216 View My Garage	Good topic, I am considering the Pistol grip for my Hurst. __________________ Car of the week 7/7/14

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11-19-2009, 06:26 PM	#2
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	I got a 2ss back on 6-2-09 and on the next day or so i found a thread on this site from a member asking if there was a member that had a m6 to test a Short throw shifter. That member was from Hurst and the shifter is the one that is on a lot of cars on this forum, If you do a search you can find some of the threads on the shifter. The shifter was put on the car with 750 mi on the car and now that car has 18,750 mi+, At the start of the testing i had the white ball on the top and it was a good fit and feel to the shifter, After some time a asked if i can put on the T-handle For some more testing and i have to tell you that the T-handle is for me the best thing you can put on the shifter. To shift from 1-2 i use my finger tips 2-3 is the heel of the hand and 3-4 is the same as 1-2 and same for the rest of the gate, The only i used a pistol-grip shift handle was the OEM one and it was OK but i can do with something that is better.

11-19-2009, 11:32 PM	#3
Standard Drives: 2023 Sharkskin ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 153	I see you're in Arizona, and I guess your car's seen some sun. . . . How are metallic shift knobs or t-bar after they've been soaking in the sun?

11-20-2009, 08:25 AM	#4
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	Hot as a it can get but i am getting a cover for it.

11-20-2009, 09:48 AM	#5
Standard Drives: 2023 Sharkskin ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 153	Interested in the cover. You mean a cover that you remove before you drive or something to wrap it in?

11-20-2009, 10:01 AM	#6
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	I went to a upholster for him to make me a lather wrap will get some pics up soon.