Whats the limit on this basic fuel system? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

eLeSthree · 05-17-2018, 03:43 PM

I currently have the usual stuff:
ZL1 pump
Modified fpcm
MSD BAP
90# Deatschwerks

At 700whp, my inj DC is 48%.

Can I push this setup to 850-900 on 93 octane?

It will still be a centri style unit.

mrimpala02 · 05-17-2018, 03:49 PM

I was making around 800 rwhp with an ECS kit, ADM twin pumps, FIC1000's and no BAP. However, I was running 100% meth + 93. I had plenty of pump and injector, but I was approaching the limits of safely running 93 + meth without detonation.

JANNETTYRACING · 05-17-2018, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

I currently have the usual stuff:
ZL1 pump
Modified fpcm
MSD BAP
90# Deatschwerks

At 700whp, my inj DC is 48%.

Can I push this setup to 850-900 on 93 octane?

It will still be a centri style unit.

No your There.

Ted.

dreksnot · 05-17-2018, 05:13 PM

ZL1 w/BAP is max'd. What ^^^ said.

eLeSthree · 05-17-2018, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

No your There.

Ted.

Leave it Ted to spoil all the fun.

DSX Aux pump kit sounds like a good option at this point, unless i sell everything and start over.

Just dropped good coin on a McLeod RXT 1200HD. It never ends...

mrimpala02 · 05-17-2018, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

Leave it Ted to spoil all the fun.

DSX Aux pump kit sounds like a good option at this point, unless i sell everything and start over.

Just dropped good coin on a McLeod RXT 1200HD. It never ends...

Pretty much. Lol.

I have an ADM twin pump and FPCM I'll sell you reasonably. I just pulled it to install the Fore Triple Setup.

Juiced1 · 05-18-2018, 12:14 AM

Your injectors obviously have some room but that pump is maxed. It's time for a Squash or a Fore Innovations pump. Give us a call when you're ready to order and we'll hook it up.

Taylortoons · 05-18-2018, 05:47 AM

Is e85 available in your area?

eLeSthree · 05-18-2018, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Taylortoons

Is e85 available in your area?

Yes, but i dont really need it, and it only makes the fuel demand worse.

jeff657756 · 05-18-2018, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

Yes, but i dont really need it, and it only makes the fuel demand worse.

lol wut

Taylortoons · 05-18-2018, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

Yes, but i dont really need it, and it only makes the fuel demand worse.

If you’re upgrading to twin pumps, might as well go e85 too. Especially since you are FI. You can expect hp gains up to 75 at the wheels. That’s a lot!

Silver14 · 05-18-2018, 07:40 AM

Is there a quantitative way to determine you need more fuel pump? Pressure drop?

Moreair1 · 05-18-2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

Yes, but i dont really need it, and it only makes the fuel demand worse.

Yes e85 demands about 30 percent more fuel, but on that note i run a flex fuel set up and the performance between 91 and e85 is very significant because it allows you to run more boost and timing without kr

JANNETTYRACING · 05-18-2018, 09:40 AM

The fuel system is the foundation on which everything else is built, too much is never enough.

Not the other way around but it is a trend I see every day, Build the car first then worry about the fuel system after you run out of money LOL

Ted.

05-17-2018, 03:43 PM	#1
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05-17-2018, 03:49 PM	#2
mrimpala02 Drives: Black 2SS RS w/White Stripes Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 775	I was making around 800 rwhp with an ECS kit, ADM twin pumps, FIC1000's and no BAP. However, I was running 100% meth + 93. I had plenty of pump and injector, but I was approaching the limits of safely running 93 + meth without detonation. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS "ChriSStine": Pat G Custom Turbo CamMotion Camshaft \| AGP TT BB Garrett 62/65's \| AGP/Fore Triple Pumps \| ID1700X Injectors \| Alky Control Twin Nozzle Meth \| Custom 3" Exhaust \| 3.27 gear set w/ Tru Trac \| McLeod Twin RXT \| Barton Short Throw Shifter \| 6th Gen ZL1 Wheels \| BMR 1.4" drop springs \| Pfadt rear trailing arms & tie rods \| Installed by Me & Tuned by Pat G

05-17-2018, 05:13 PM	#4
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 1LE A10 (stock) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,617 View My Garage	ZL1 w/BAP is max'd. What ^^^ said. __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

05-18-2018, 05:47 AM	#8
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05-18-2018, 09:40 AM	#14
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,230	The fuel system is the foundation on which everything else is built, too much is never enough. Not the other way around but it is a trend I see every day, Build the car first then worry about the fuel system after you run out of money LOL Ted. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 37 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

05-18-2018, 12:14 AM	#7
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,663	Your injectors obviously have some room but that pump is maxed. It's time for a Squash or a Fore Innovations pump. Give us a call when you're ready to order and we'll hook it up.

05-18-2018, 07:40 AM	#12
Silver14 Drives: 2014 SIM 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 925	Is there a quantitative way to determine you need more fuel pump? Pressure drop?