Can I have the Dealer inspect pre-owned blackbox data for me? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

LS3Me · 11-26-2009, 01:23 PM

Seems an obscure question but important to me. There are quite a few used 2010 Camaro's for sale out there. Compared to Additional Dealer Markups (ADM stickers), it seems wiser to buy a pre-owned Camaro right now.

Everyone tells you they babied their cars when it comes time to sell them but frequently the truth is quite the opposite. If there was vehicle abuse it could be stored in the Event Data Recorder (ECR), Powertrain Control Module (PCM) or Crash Data Recorder (CDR). I was wondering if anyone with knowledge of this subject can comment on the dealer's ability to read information for a charge ($$)?

Meaning can I have a seller bring their car to Chevy and I would pay the dealer technician to download things like number of launch control uses, or rem limiter hits, etc.. No alternative agenda here, just trying to find a way of avoiding abused cars.

Example, FWIW, I was told about a GT500 that had power pulley's for blower and drag wheels & tires put on it and abused quite thoroughly at the strip for some time. If a person like that ever swapped the parts and wheels back you'd have a hard time telling. Could be low miles but heavy on wear.

Thank you.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 11-26-2009, 01:26 PM

I don't know if they could, but would they tell you the truth?

LS3Me · 11-26-2009, 01:33 PM

Might be possible, hope it is. That's what I'm wondering. Other manufacturers have stored this type of event data for warranty compliance. Hoping to use it as a last mechanical check once a seller & I agree on a price.

mjlash22 · 11-26-2009, 01:34 PM

Don't think so, get a CarFax

And there are way less dealers marking up the MSRP then before, shop around!

TooCool5 · 11-26-2009, 02:23 PM

No way of knowing how they drove a used car unless your a cop investigating an accident or you have an inside friend at the dealer.

11-26-2009, 01:23 PM	#1
LS3Me Drives: 2SS if all goes well Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 2	Can I have the Dealer inspect pre-owned blackbox data for me? Seems an obscure question but important to me. There are quite a few used 2010 Camaro's for sale out there. Compared to Additional Dealer Markups (ADM stickers), it seems wiser to buy a pre-owned Camaro right now. Everyone tells you they babied their cars when it comes time to sell them but frequently the truth is quite the opposite. If there was vehicle abuse it could be stored in the Event Data Recorder (ECR), Powertrain Control Module (PCM) or Crash Data Recorder (CDR). I was wondering if anyone with knowledge of this subject can comment on the dealer's ability to read information for a charge ($$)? Meaning can I have a seller bring their car to Chevy and I would pay the dealer technician to download things like number of launch control uses, or rem limiter hits, etc.. No alternative agenda here, just trying to find a way of avoiding abused cars. Example, FWIW, I was told about a GT500 that had power pulley's for blower and drag wheels & tires put on it and abused quite thoroughly at the strip for some time. If a person like that ever swapped the parts and wheels back you'd have a hard time telling. Could be low miles but heavy on wear. Thank you.

11-26-2009, 01:34 PM	#4
mjlash22 Drives: 2007 Ford Fusion SE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,440	Don't think so, get a CarFax And there are way less dealers marking up the MSRP then before, shop around! __________________ Ordered: 2LT/RS CGM, A6 1100 = Preliminary Order 10/1/09 2000 = Accepted By GM 12/31/09 3000 = Accepted By Production Control 1/7/10 (TPW: 2/1/10) 3400 = Broadcast 1/23/10 3800 = Produced 2/2/10 (2G1FC1EV6A9189068) 4150 = Invoiced 2/5/10 4200 = Shipped 5000 = Delivered To Dealer 6000 = Delivered To Customer

11-26-2009, 02:23 PM	#5
TooCool5 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LS 3.6 LLT V6 325 HP Join Date: May 2009 Location: LS Posts: 4,244 View My Garage	No way of knowing how they drove a used car unless your a cop investigating an accident or you have an inside friend at the dealer. __________________ 2010 Camaro Auto, Inferno Orange, Titanium Interior, Gearhead Wheels AIRAID CAI

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LS3Me Drives: 2SS if all goes well Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 2	Might be possible, hope it is. That's what I'm wondering. Other manufacturers have stored this type of event data for warranty compliance. Hoping to use it as a last mechanical check once a seller & I agree on a price.