Who makes MIL eliminators for the 2010 camaro?? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

g-townmach · 11-30-2009, 10:56 PM

For those of you coming from mustangs, you'll know what I'm talking about. Wanting to run an O/R midpipe and don't want the PO420 and PO430 codes. Pretty sure i can retro-fit some of my old ones but if somebody is making them, it'll save me some time.

Clear Image Auto (Dan) · 12-01-2009, 03:27 AM

If you are looking to run off-road pipes, are you looking to run them from the stock manifolds or from long tube headers? We have had great success in offering off-road pipes, for a few different vehicles, with "O2 Chambers" which do not set codes. Let me clarify, the stock O2 sensors can be retained, no tuning or simulators required. We have tested our own off-road pipes with O2 chambers on the dyno with no codes being thrown.

I hope this helps.

MadMav · 12-01-2009, 07:33 AM

Dan, long time no see.

And to all, Dan and Clear Image are very well know for superior quality and products in the LT1 Impala world.

Maverick

P.S. Dan, when you gonna get your '10 Camaro pages up on the website?

g-townmach · 12-01-2009, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clear Image Auto (Dan)

If you are looking to run off-road pipes, are you looking to run them from the stock manifolds or from long tube headers? We have had great success in offering off-road pipes, for a few different vehicles, with "O2 Chambers" which do not set codes. Let me clarify, the stock O2 sensors can be retained, no tuning or simulators required. We have tested our own off-road pipes with O2 chambers on the dyno with no codes being thrown.

I hope this helps.

I'm wanting to run an o/r midpipe with stock manifolds. Do you have a link to your O2 chambers and can you explain how they're effective??

Clear Image Auto (Dan) · 12-01-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMav

Dan, long time no see.

And to all, Dan and Clear Image are very well know for superior quality and products in the LT1 Impala world.

Maverick

P.S. Dan, when you gonna get your '10 Camaro pages up on the website?

WOW! Hey Mav,
I'm running into all my Impala customers over here. Did you get a 2010 Camaro already? As for pictures, I have been working in the shop a lot lately and not able to do much with the site. I'll do my best to get a Camaro page up today.

Nice hearing from you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by g-townmach

I'm wanting to run an o/r midpipe with stock manifolds. Do you have a link to your O2 chambers and can you explain how they're effective??

The "O2 Chamber" pulls the stock sensor out of the exhaust stream. The inside of the chamber restricts exhaust enough for the PCM to see the correct reading. Hence, no code with even off-road pipes. At least that has been our experience with other GM vehicles. I don't have any pictures of the off-road pipes for the Camaro with the O2 chamber. But here's a down-pipe we offer for another vehicle with an example of what I am talking about:

Big picture:
http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/...cutout%202.JPG

JHart · 12-01-2009, 04:38 PM

another way to maybe try is to buy 2-3 spark plug non foulers, drill out one end of one of the non foulers to the size of the o2 sensor, and connect them all together and install it back on the mid pipe. it moves the o2 sensor further away from the exhaust gases, mostly eliminating the CEL.

Louis @ LG Motorsports · 12-01-2009, 04:44 PM

MIL eliminators have been a thing of the past on GM vehicles. With the EPA all over Caspers, and the big lawsuit that went on, they had to discontinue them, and buy back anything that was left.

I have not seen a set, save for some here and there, in years.

GNVenom · 12-01-2009, 06:40 PM

The last time I saw them was 14,000 of 'em I had to destroy...DOJ order.

That was a sick day.

Nobody makes them any longer. And beware, if you use the threaded extensions, you could get sucked into the same mess Caspers was in. The EPA doesn't like any form of tampering, it kind of pisssses them off and they do un-patriotic things to get their way. Ask me how I know...

MadMav · 12-01-2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clear Image Auto (Dan)

WOW! Hey Mav,
I'm running into all my Impala customers over here. Did you get a 2010 Camaro already? As for pictures, I have been working in the shop a lot lately and not able to do much with the site. I'll do my best to get a Camaro page up today.

Nice hearing from you.

Funny how that works. Yes, I already have my 2010 Camaro, and loving it! Can't wait to mod it like I did the Impala. Good luck with the website!

Mav

Clear Image Auto (Dan) · 12-01-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMav

Funny how that works. Yes, I already have my 2010 Camaro, and loving it! Can't wait to mod it like I did the Impala. Good luck with the website!

Mav

Let me know when you're ready. We have full length, stainless headers, converters and 3" exhaust now. You know I'll take care of you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNVenom

The last time I saw them was 14,000 of 'em I had to destroy...DOJ order.

That was a sick day.

Nobody makes them any longer. And beware, if you use the threaded extensions, you could get sucked into the same mess Caspers was in. The EPA doesn't like any form of tampering, it kind of pisssses them off and they do un-patriotic things to get their way. Ask me how I know...

Wow! I couldn't even imagine having to destroy so many of my own products. I was sick having to discard 150 bad flanges one time, let alone 14,000 of something. What a bunch of BS. I guess "Big Brother Is Watching" wasn't just hypothetical after-all...

JDBeck23 · 12-01-2009, 09:20 PM

The reason MIL eliminators are more scarce is because they dont work on newer cars. You cant simply wire resistors line with the PCM to fool it into thinking that the cats are functioning properly anymore. With the advanced bus style communications that our Camaros have, it renders MIL eliminators completely useless.

I have long tubes and high flow cats and im throwing cat codes for low efficiency cats on banks 1 and 2. The only way to fix it is a tune.

Clear Image Auto (Dan) · 12-01-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDBeck23

I have long tubes and high flow cats and im throwing cat codes for low efficiency cats on banks 1 and 2. The only way to fix it is a tune.

And here's the other way to prevent the code, without a tune:

MadMav · 12-01-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clear Image Auto (Dan)

Let me know when you're ready. We have full length, stainless headers, converters and 3" exhaust now. You know I'll take care of you.

I know you'll take care of me.....you always have. And I will come to you whenever I can for the fine work you put out!

Mav

MadMav · 12-01-2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clear Image Auto (Dan)

And here's the other way to prevent the code, without a tune:

What is it that prevents the codes Dan? I'm interested. Or is it a secret?

Mav

11-30-2009, 10:56 PM	#1
g-townmach I FARTED Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: cen-tex Posts: 870	Who makes MIL eliminators for the 2010 camaro?? For those of you coming from mustangs, you'll know what I'm talking about. Wanting to run an O/R midpipe and don't want the PO420 and PO430 codes. Pretty sure i can retro-fit some of my old ones but if somebody is making them, it'll save me some time. __________________

12-01-2009, 03:27 AM	#2
Clear Image Auto (Dan) Drives: 95 Chevy Impala SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: WA Posts: 35	If you are looking to run off-road pipes, are you looking to run them from the stock manifolds or from long tube headers? We have had great success in offering off-road pipes, for a few different vehicles, with "O2 Chambers" which do not set codes. Let me clarify, the stock O2 sensors can be retained, no tuning or simulators required. We have tested our own off-road pipes with O2 chambers on the dyno with no codes being thrown. I hope this helps. __________________ Warmest regards, Dan Ferraro Headers, Exhaust & Intake systems dan.ferraro@clearimageautomotive.com Clear Image Automotive www.clearimageautomotive.com

12-01-2009, 07:33 AM	#3
MadMav Drives: 2010 SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Falcon, CO Posts: 661	Dan, long time no see. And to all, Dan and Clear Image are very well know for superior quality and products in the LT1 Impala world. Maverick P.S. Dan, when you gonna get your '10 Camaro pages up on the website? __________________ SS/RS M6, SIM, CGM stripes, Barton S/T, BMR trailing arms, ADM Race intake(no scoop), Texas Speed 1 7/8" headers and full 3" exhaust, RMCR custom tune.

12-01-2009, 04:38 PM	#6
JHart I haz camaro again :) Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Union, South Carolina Posts: 660	another way to maybe try is to buy 2-3 spark plug non foulers, drill out one end of one of the non foulers to the size of the o2 sensor, and connect them all together and install it back on the mid pipe. it moves the o2 sensor further away from the exhaust gases, mostly eliminating the CEL. __________________ 2010 Camaro 1SS(back in a camaro again, yessssss!) 2010 silverado z71 ccsb(sold, old dd) 2010 camaro1ss(sold, missed, will have another someday)

12-01-2009, 06:40 PM	#8
GNVenom Turbos. Turbos. Turbos. Drives: 2010 SS Yellow/Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Loveland, Colorado Posts: 201	The last time I saw them was 14,000 of 'em I had to destroy...DOJ order. That was a sick day. Nobody makes them any longer. And beware, if you use the threaded extensions, you could get sucked into the same mess Caspers was in. The EPA doesn't like any form of tampering, it kind of pisssses them off and they do un-patriotic things to get their way. Ask me how I know... __________________ John Spina Caspers Electronics Inc. Loveland CO 2010 2SS/RS Yellow/Black > http://www.bummlbe.com

12-01-2009, 04:44 PM	#7
Louis @ LG Motorsports Drives: 2010 SS/RS 2009 CG Z06 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dallas Tx Posts: 122	MIL eliminators have been a thing of the past on GM vehicles. With the EPA all over Caspers, and the big lawsuit that went on, they had to discontinue them, and buy back anything that was left. I have not seen a set, save for some here and there, in years.

12-01-2009, 09:20 PM	#11
JDBeck23 Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: King George, Va Posts: 881	The reason MIL eliminators are more scarce is because they dont work on newer cars. You cant simply wire resistors line with the PCM to fool it into thinking that the cats are functioning properly anymore. With the advanced bus style communications that our Camaros have, it renders MIL eliminators completely useless. I have long tubes and high flow cats and im throwing cat codes for low efficiency cats on banks 1 and 2. The only way to fix it is a tune. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS CGM American Racing Headers, Magnaflow axle back, Roto-Fab CAI, Audio Integrations Sub box, Alpine Type R 10, Alpine MRP-500 amp, Pro Clips iPhone Mount

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