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Silver2014SS · 02-28-2021, 08:22 PM

Anyone run a stock SS fuel pump with an SMG or DSX aux kit? I have a '14 SS w/ manual trans and boltons and I'm considering the ESS sc kit with a GPI cam. I'm estimating to be anywhere from 600 to 675 rwhp with the blower and cam. I'd be happy at that power level and could see maybe trying to push to 750ish in the future but that would be the max I'd be comfortable with on the stock block before going forged.

I'm kind of stuck with fuel. Not really a fan of the idea of doing all the work to swap in a ZL1 pump just to have it on the brink of being maxed out, and not really a fan of going all out and dropping major coin on a Fore or Squash kit which I think would be way overkill. Doesn't seem like there's many fueling options between the ZL1 and Fore/Squash.

Seems like there are a lot of guys with the ZL1 pump + aux kit with over 1k wheel hp, so if an SS pump + aux would cover 650 up to 750-800 that would be the sweet spot for me.

Forgive me if this has been answered but I've been searching and emailing people for the last couple months and haven't found an answer to this specific question.

Vegas Bound · 02-28-2021, 08:35 PM

Pump gas may be ok but not e85.

RupertPupkin · 02-28-2021, 11:10 PM

I haven’t seen nor read a 1000whp camaro using ZL1 pump/aux kit. Unless I’m not looking, but I did the same song and dance b4.

Do it right the first time.

larry_g · 03-01-2021, 07:30 AM

There isn't anything between a ZL1 pump with an auxiliary and a full system. I have been going back and forth with figuring out what I want to do. I even bought a new aftermarket CTS-V pump with the thought of using it as is or upgrading the pumps. There are a couple of companies supposedly working on drop ins but development seems slow and I'm losing faith as our cars get older.

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TheFlyingBananaSS · 03-01-2021, 11:56 AM

I've got the ZL1 pump and putting in the aux this week. Don't forget about your injectors.

gunchamp · 03-01-2021, 12:59 PM

I know its dumb for me to be complaining about costs, especially after all the money I've already spent, but I cant say anything bad about someone trying to find a cheaper way to fuel these cars. Paying $2500-3000 just for a fuel system, minus the injectors mind you, sucks in a way I cant put into words here lol

Bigdumogre · 03-01-2021, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

I know its dumb for me to be complaining about costs, especially after all the money I've already spent, but I cant say anything bad about someone trying to find a cheaper way to fuel these cars. Paying $2500-3000 just for a fuel system, minus the injectors mind you, sucks in a way I cant put into words here lol

I agree it’s a lot to spend on just fuel alone. But without that fuel you can’t have the power. Wish there was a cheap way to do it so you can spend the money and other go faster parts.

http://rpmspeed.com/product_info.php...umsel4hsjirg62
Stealth pump supports over 1k hp but haven’t heard anyone using it

RupertPupkin · 03-01-2021, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdumogre

I agree it’s a lot to spend on just fuel alone. But without that fuel you can’t have the power. Wish there was a cheap way to do it so you can spend the money and other go faster parts.

http://rpmspeed.com/product_info.php...umsel4hsjirg62
Stealth pump supports over 1k hp but haven’t heard anyone using it

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showt...ighlight=A1000

Batmanntexas · 03-01-2021, 06:30 PM

Check out AGP Turbo. A few years ago, I bought their twin pump setup and flex fuel kit for $1800. Probably the cheapest way to get a fuel system that will support 1000rwhp.

-Scott

TheFlyingBananaSS · 03-01-2021, 07:19 PM

I see ZL1 pump and DSX aux pump support well over 800whp all the time. And it's still cheaper than a dual or triple pump. Plan on spending at least 2k if you go dual or triple once your done with fittings and lines. I priced up the aeroforce stealth for mine and it was over 2k. Meanwhile the aux pump will be fine for my needs and still leave me a bit of growth room.

Bigdumogre · 03-01-2021, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RupertPupkin

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showt...ighlight=A1000

That’s brutal ouch. No wonder you don’t hear about them

Silver14 · 03-01-2021, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmanntexas

Check out AGP Turbo. A few years ago, I bought their twin pump setup and flex fuel kit for $1800. Probably the cheapest way to get a fuel system that will support 1000rwhp.

-Scott

I have their twin pump, running 93, 850cc injectors and still have a ton of room to grow. Made a little over 600rwhp, 7.5 psi, max 55% duty cycle. Comes with everything to install, no additional parts needed.

Fuel system is one of those "buy once, cry once" things.

Silver2014SS · 03-01-2021, 09:43 PM

Appreciate any and all feedback. Maybe I misread what I thought was 1k hp Camaros with ZL1 + aux. I've been doing so much searching and reading my brain is a bit fried.

RupertPupkin · 03-01-2021, 10:02 PM

Get the ZL1 pump, DSX aux pump and call it a day. If you need to drop in a dual or triple pump in the future, you can flip the DSX & ZL1 pump later down the road.

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=588712

ZL1 pump 100$

02-28-2021, 08:22 PM	#1
Silver2014SS Drives: 2014 Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: MN Posts: 36 View My Garage	Stock SS Pump with Aux Kit? Anyone run a stock SS fuel pump with an SMG or DSX aux kit? I have a '14 SS w/ manual trans and boltons and I'm considering the ESS sc kit with a GPI cam. I'm estimating to be anywhere from 600 to 675 rwhp with the blower and cam. I'd be happy at that power level and could see maybe trying to push to 750ish in the future but that would be the max I'd be comfortable with on the stock block before going forged. I'm kind of stuck with fuel. Not really a fan of the idea of doing all the work to swap in a ZL1 pump just to have it on the brink of being maxed out, and not really a fan of going all out and dropping major coin on a Fore or Squash kit which I think would be way overkill. Doesn't seem like there's many fueling options between the ZL1 and Fore/Squash. Seems like there are a lot of guys with the ZL1 pump + aux kit with over 1k wheel hp, so if an SS pump + aux would cover 650 up to 750-800 that would be the sweet spot for me. Forgive me if this has been answered but I've been searching and emailing people for the last couple months and haven't found an answer to this specific question.

02-28-2021, 11:10 PM	#3
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,706	I haven’t seen nor read a 1000whp camaro using ZL1 pump/aux kit. Unless I’m not looking, but I did the same song and dance b4. Do it right the first time. __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

03-01-2021, 07:30 AM	#4
larry_g Drives: 2014 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 886	There isn't anything between a ZL1 pump with an auxiliary and a full system. I have been going back and forth with figuring out what I want to do. I even bought a new aftermarket CTS-V pump with the thought of using it as is or upgrading the pumps. There are a couple of companies supposedly working on drop ins but development seems slow and I'm losing faith as our cars get older. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk __________________ 830 WHP 700 WTQ, Whipple 2.9 @ 13lbs Boost, Flex Fuel Tune by Blevins Tuning, LSA SBE, 3.5 GripTec, ATI LS3 Damper, AFR 260cc Mongoose, ARP Studs, Yella Terra Ultralites, Johnson 2110R, BTR PDS Stage 3, Melling 10355, Improved Racing Baffle, ID1050X, DSX Triple Fuel Pump, RotoFab CAI, NW 103mm TB, Stainless Works 1-7/8" LTH to 3" Speed Eng w/ X-pipe to NPP, Powermaster 9509 XS, Detroit Speed Motor Mounts, MGW, Monster LT1-S, ZL1 Calipers, DBA Rotors & Pads, Bilstein B6 Struts & Shocks, BMR 1.25" Drop Springs & Adj Rear Bar, Pegasus Solid Bushings, Z/28 Wheels, other misc parts.

03-01-2021, 11:56 AM	#5
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,262	I've got the ZL1 pump and putting in the aux this week. Don't forget about your injectors. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

03-01-2021, 12:59 PM	#6
gunchamp Drives: 15 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Mountains of central PA Posts: 1,442	I know its dumb for me to be complaining about costs, especially after all the money I've already spent, but I cant say anything bad about someone trying to find a cheaper way to fuel these cars. Paying $2500-3000 just for a fuel system, minus the injectors mind you, sucks in a way I cant put into words here lol __________________ 15 Camaro SS- GPI max top end, ESS Vortech V3 9psi, ID 1050s, ZL1 pump, JMS bap, Long tubes, Corsa extreme, Circle D pro 5C, 391 rear, DSS carbon drive shaft, poly cradle bushings, tuned by Ted Jannetty and much much more

02-28-2021, 08:35 PM	#2
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	Pump gas may be ok but not e85.

03-01-2021, 06:30 PM	#9
Batmanntexas Drives: 2012 Camaro SS (2SS) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,395 View My Garage	Check out AGP Turbo. A few years ago, I bought their twin pump setup and flex fuel kit for $1800. Probably the cheapest way to get a fuel system that will support 1000rwhp. -Scott __________________ 745RWHP/634RWTQ on 93 @ 10psi 806/676 on E85 @ 10psi Currently @15-16psi.... COTW 9/8/14

03-01-2021, 07:19 PM	#10
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,262	I see ZL1 pump and DSX aux pump support well over 800whp all the time. And it's still cheaper than a dual or triple pump. Plan on spending at least 2k if you go dual or triple once your done with fittings and lines. I priced up the aeroforce stealth for mine and it was over 2k. Meanwhile the aux pump will be fine for my needs and still leave me a bit of growth room. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

03-01-2021, 09:43 PM	#13
Silver2014SS Drives: 2014 Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: MN Posts: 36 View My Garage	Appreciate any and all feedback. Maybe I misread what I thought was 1k hp Camaros with ZL1 + aux. I've been doing so much searching and reading my brain is a bit fried.

03-01-2021, 10:02 PM	#14
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,706	Get the ZL1 pump, DSX aux pump and call it a day. If you need to drop in a dual or triple pump in the future, you can flip the DSX & ZL1 pump later down the road. https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=588712 ZL1 pump 100$ __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq