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Old 11-24-2023, 01:42 PM   #1
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Return fuel system, fuel rails

I have a 14' ZL1, that's a full bolt-on car. I now need more fuel. I'm opting to do a full return system, instead of a DSX Aux system. A hole in the bottom of my gas tank scares the poop out of me.

The only question I have, has to do with the fuel rails. The injectors for #7 and #8 are really close to a blockage of sorts. I'm trying to see how others have installed their full rails. How did you plumb the fuel rails. I can not find any pics where fuel rails have been installed on a LSA. I can't be the first one to do this, can I?!?!
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Old 11-24-2023, 05:33 PM   #2
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There are several builders on here so one of them will surely answer your question. I can’t help you I don’t know anything about that. If someone doesn’t help you go to the vendors page on this web site and choose one. There all here to help. It might be after this weekend before you get a response since it is a holiday weekend. Good luck.
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Old 11-24-2023, 08:13 PM   #3
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It might be after this weekend before you get a response since it is a holiday weekend. Good luck.
You bring up a good point there.
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Old 11-25-2023, 09:13 AM   #4
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I went with a fore fuel system and used their rails . Some people have cutt the dog ears on the back sides of the blower to clear fitings . It’s not a clear pic of the rail but if you look closely y oh can see how it’s mounted up as I didn’t cutt the dog ears off mine. I’m running the l4 system so my rails are running in parallel.
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Old 11-25-2023, 10:02 AM   #5
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Why would you be scared to drill the hole in the tank? Its the easiest part of the install. Fran from rpm uses almost the same setup as dsx except they plumb in a regulator with a return line and drill 2 holes in the tank.
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Old 11-25-2023, 07:40 PM   #6
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Why would you be scared to drill the hole in the tank? Its the easiest part of the install. Fran from rpm uses almost the same setup as dsx except they plumb in a regulator with a return line and drill 2 holes in the tank.
My engineering mind screams at the thought of a small leak dripping gas in front a hot exhaust. Not saying it will happen instantly, but over time, who knows. I have no problem buying the extra parts and doing extra work to avoid that.

With me doing the work, I see the extra work as minimal compare to the aux pump system.

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Old 11-25-2023, 07:42 PM   #7
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I went with a fore fuel system and used their rails . Some people have cutt the dog ears on the back sides of the blower to clear fitings . It’s not a clear pic of the rail but if you look closely y oh can see how it’s mounted up as I didn’t cutt the dog ears off mine. I’m running the l4 system so my rails are running in parallel.
Looking into the Fore fuel rails now.

Your setup also gives me a good idea of where and how to mount the fuel filter.

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Old 11-26-2023, 09:19 AM   #8
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My engineering mind screams at the thought of a small leak dripping gas in front a hot exhaust. Not saying it will happen instantly, but over time, who knows. I have no problem buying the extra parts and doing extra work to avoid that.

With me doing the work, I see the extra work as minimal compare to the aux pump system.
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Old 11-27-2023, 07:57 AM   #9
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We use the DSX system in a LOT of cars, and I can tell you that if they were developing leaks, we'd hear about it. It's a well designed kit that works extremely well.

That said, I can appreciate the aversion to that sort of an install, and there is nothing wrong with doing an in-tank setup with a return. Fore Innovation is who we like to work with, and they have very nice, very complete kits suitable for a variety of power levels. They would be my go-to for what you're looking to do.
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Old 11-27-2023, 10:06 AM   #10
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I was one of those that decided they didn't want to drill my tank. Cost me a lot more to do it this way, but it's solid. I used Aeroflow rails and Deatchwerks teflon lines and pumps. Risingson is correct, I had to cutoff the ears off the back of the blower so the fittings would clear, but they're not used in my application anyway.

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Old 11-27-2023, 04:03 PM   #11
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I was one of those that decided they didn't want to drill my tank. Cost me a lot more to do it this way, but it's solid. I used Aeroflow rails and Deatchwerks teflon lines and pumps. Risingson is correct, I had to cutoff the ears off the back of the blower so the fittings would clear, but they're not used in my application anyway.

Tons of videos on my youtube if interested.

Found just the video that I've been looking for, on your channel. Thank you very much!!!


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Old 11-27-2023, 08:40 PM   #12
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[QUOTE=TopDawg_43;11383349]Found just the video that I've been looking for, on your channel. Thank you very much!!!

That's great, Thanks, that makes it all worth it.
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Old 11-27-2023, 08:59 PM   #13
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Old 11-28-2023, 11:35 AM   #14
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My rails are plumbed in a factory style dead-head configuration with the crossover hose routed behind the blower. I used Radium rails. Works well enough for where I'm at now power wise, but the setup has limitations and I have upgrades planned.
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