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Maurdib · 04-07-2010, 07:53 PM

Most of you have probaly seen the BBK youtupe vid, has anyone attempted this? Did you notice a difference?

mrray13 · 04-07-2010, 09:03 PM

There are a few us with longtubes and hiflows, but no one with the BBKs that I'm aware of. Blade and I both have American Racing Headers long tubes and cats, PieNsky has Stainless Works version. With long tubes and hiflows, you will feel a difference.

Blade · 04-07-2010, 09:18 PM

Big Difference, I have to finish up my muffler install, but you can check out the vid in my thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75042

camarowa · 04-08-2010, 11:04 AM

How is the noise level when upgrading to long tubes?

Maurdib · 04-08-2010, 02:43 PM

What is the actual cost of added both?

Blade · 04-08-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurdib

What is the actual cost of added both?

Cost depends on which manufacturer you go with. Each manufacturer has their own materials they use, BBK uses Stainless Steel mixed in with some aluminum piping, ARH is full aluminum. Price also depends on the side of the pipes and how they built them. ARH makes them built to order, so I call they make em and send them out. BBK has them mass produced because they supply retail stores with their products. Mass production will keep costs down, but it can also increase a chance of defects.

I paid a bundle for the ARHs, but I am finding it to be well worth the cost. The install hasn't been cheap either because of my unique install issues.

Maurdib · 04-08-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mrray13

There are a few us with longtubes and hiflows, but no one with the BBKs that I'm aware of. Blade and I both have American Racing Headers long tubes and cats, PieNsky has Stainless Works version. With long tubes and hiflows, you will feel a difference.

So what are you number looking like now with the additions you've made?

tstpierre · 04-08-2010, 05:58 PM

I have SW longs, hi flows and mbrp exhaust... very noticable increase. Nice sound change as well. If you dont mind the cash, 100% worth it.

mrray13 · 04-08-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurdib

So what are you number looking like now with the additions you've made?

Dyno day it was done was 276rwhp and 248ft-lb of torque, according to the third gear pull done in Indy. Before the longtubes, same dyno, I was at 259rwhp and 237ft-lb of torque, again third gear. After long tubes, before tune, 275rwhp and 246ft-lb of torque.

The longtubes/hiflows will definitely add horsepower and torque. Of that, there is no doubt, lol.

Maurdib · 04-08-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mrray13

Dyno day it was done was 276rwhp and 248ft-lb of torque, according to the third gear pull done in Indy. Before the longtubes, same dyno, I was at 259rwhp and 237ft-lb of torque, again third gear. After long tubes, before tune, 275rwhp and 246ft-lb of torque.

The longtubes/hiflows will definitely add horsepower and torque. Of that, there is no doubt, lol.

One more question if I may, Do you need to do a tune to make it work right? I've heard of Check Engine issues and the possibilty that the current tone doesn't know how to handle the upgrades naturally

mrray13 · 04-09-2010, 12:36 PM

A tune will optimize the setup, and if your car is an auto, like mine, will tweak the tranny as well. If your car is a manual, the tune is mostly to make sure AFR/timing stays where it needs to be and help keep CELs from popping up.

The ECU in the car is pretty darn adaptive, but can use the help, lol!

04-07-2010, 07:53 PM	#1
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	Any V6 owners Add Full Headers and Highflow Cats? Most of you have probaly seen the BBK youtupe vid, has anyone attempted this? Did you notice a difference?

04-07-2010, 09:18 PM	#3
Blade Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS BVM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 4,689 View My Garage	Big Difference, I have to finish up my muffler install, but you can check out the vid in my thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75042 __________________ Formerly owner of: 2012 2SS/RS Build Thread - Totaled by red light runner 2010 LT/RS Build Thread - Traded in for 2012 2SS 2007 Acura TSX 1992 Oldsmobile Achieva V6 1992 Mercury Sable

04-08-2010, 11:04 AM	#4
camarowa Drives: 2013 SVT Raptor, sold 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: PNW....almost canada Posts: 1,907	How is the noise level when upgrading to long tubes? __________________ - Pfadt Suspension Package; Springs & Sways - Brembo Brake Upgrade (Yellow); Courtesy Fesler Built - Custom Magnaflow Exhaust - Blacked-Out Bowties & RS Emblems, Front bowtie delete - Full Dynamat Extreme Trunk Coverage - Tinted side markers - Interior DSV Customs Leather Upgrades - Airaid CAI V2 - Forgestar F14 Gunmetal 20x9, 20x11 - Doug Thorley Shorties

04-08-2010, 05:58 PM	#8
tstpierre Drives: 2010 Rally Yellow 2LT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: AZ Posts: 63 View My Garage	I have SW longs, hi flows and mbrp exhaust... very noticable increase. Nice sound change as well. If you dont mind the cash, 100% worth it. __________________ Mods: Hennessey CAI, MBRP Exhaust, Stainless Works 1 5/8 Long Tube Headers and High Flow Cats, Trifecta Tuned

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mrray13 Drives: 2010 1LT RS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: southern Illinois Posts: 2,973	A tune will optimize the setup, and if your car is an auto, like mine, will tweak the tranny as well. If your car is a manual, the tune is mostly to make sure AFR/timing stays where it needs to be and help keep CELs from popping up. The ECU in the car is pretty darn adaptive, but can use the help, lol!