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Old 06-02-2010, 02:43 PM   #1
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supercharger question

here 's another one

what other mods MUST you do to when installing a supercharger

must you do exhaust???

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Old 06-02-2010, 02:48 PM   #2
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It depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking to get the most from your combination, CAI and full exhaust with a custom tune are the way to go, to start. It's really up to you and your wallet
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:48 PM   #3
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depending on application but on a stock car.. Exhaust is not a MUST.. yet it helps..

there are some 550rwhp dyno sheets on stock exhausts...
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:50 PM   #4
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depending on application but on a stock car.. Exhaust is not a MUST.. yet it helps..

there are some 550rwhp dyno sheets on stock exhausts...
If one wants to remain emissions compliant, you can keep the OEM exhaust and go with the SC kits that are pushing more boost that are seeking or have already acquired CARB exemption.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:03 PM   #5
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here 's another one

what other mods MUST you do to when installing a supercharger

must you do exhaust???

thanks again
No other mods are REQUIRED to run a supercharger. In fact, our systems are designed to work with all factory equipment to give the customer unsurpassed drivability and reliability. My advice to you is to do your homework. Figure out in what capacity you will be using your Camaro (ie. daily driving, enthusiastic street driving, drag racing, track driving, or a combination thereof) and decide on what system best suits your intentions. Then start with just the supercharger and no mods to evaluate how you like the power output before attempting other mods.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:06 PM   #6
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Interestingly, Will from APF mentioned that the stock exhaust helped one of his L99 Kenne Bell builds make better torque numbers down low. And the same car made a little more hp than my Kenne Bell L99 with a Corsa catback. So, the stock exhaust on these cars must work pretty well.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:10 PM   #7
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what i want is to have something different, my last muscle car was a mint 87 GN
i owned it for 10 years.

there is nothing like the look on someones face when you/car suprise them

it will be a daily driven car
exhaust drones are not appreciated

so basically i can slap on a Charger wheter a maggie or procharger with no other mods and build it out from there?

I have a GM dealership that will do the work

will the addition of the charger void my wrranty in your opinion
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:31 PM   #8
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what i want is to have something different, my last muscle car was a mint 87 GN
i owned it for 10 years.

there is nothing like the look on someones face when you/car suprise them

it will be a daily driven car
exhaust drones are not appreciated

so basically i can slap on a Charger wheter a maggie or procharger with no other mods and build it out from there?

I have a GM dealership that will do the work

will the addition of the charger void my wrranty in your opinion
The Magnuson/Moss Warranty Act http://www.magnacharger.com/magnusonmoss.htm states that a manufacturer cannot void your warranty for aftermarket modifications unless they can prove that that particular mod caused the failure. My advice would be to find a "performance-minded" dealer and to talk with (especially if they are going to be the ones doing the work) to discuss warranty implications. For extra peace-of-mind you can purchase a 3 year/36,000 mile powertrain warranty with our system that gives you an extra safety blanket of coverage (provided the vehicle's powertrain is stock other than the supercharger).
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Old 06-03-2010, 02:00 AM   #9
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Interestingly, Will from APF mentioned that the stock exhaust helped one of his L99 Kenne Bell builds make better torque numbers down low. And the same car made a little more hp than my Kenne Bell L99 with a Corsa catback. So, the stock exhaust on these cars must work pretty well.
I think i will agree. Most of the performance gain you get from getting rid of the stock exh system is all the weight you drop - the stock system move be 100lbs - it's a pig
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Old 06-03-2010, 02:05 AM   #10
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will the addition of the charger void my wrranty in your opinion
The addition of a SC will undoubtedly void any powertrain warranty you have. They may still cover the radio though.
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:41 AM   #11
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Hi, I don't have a supercharger but I've been doing a lot of research on them and asking questions just like you. My friend has a shop and they do a lot of mods like turbos and superchargers on older fbody cars, but not the new camaro yet.

You can just bolt on a supercharger to your car with no other mods except adding the tune.

I have two links for you.

The first is a link to where I already asked tons of questions.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77958

The second is to horsepower tv where they put a supercharger on a camaro.
http://www.spike.com/full-episode/20...n-camaro/35955

These two links should answer a lot if not all of your questions.
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Ted Jennetty uses the stock exhaust on some of his builds, and those cars produce some crazy numbers. Shoot him a PM and I bet he would be happy to share some great info.
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I think i will agree. Most of the performance gain you get from getting rid of the stock exh system is all the weight you drop - the stock system move be 100lbs - it's a pig
Hey, that's a good enough reason for me to shed the stock exhaust. Wow, that's heavy.
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Old 06-03-2010, 01:33 PM   #14
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The Magnuson/Moss Warranty Act http://www.magnacharger.com/magnusonmoss.htm states that a manufacturer cannot void your warranty for aftermarket modifications unless they can prove that that particular mod caused the failure. My advice would be to find a "performance-minded" dealer and to talk with (especially if they are going to be the ones doing the work) to discuss warranty implications. For extra peace-of-mind you can purchase a 3 year/36,000 mile powertrain warranty with our system that gives you an extra safety blanket of coverage (provided the vehicle's powertrain is stock other than the supercharger).
While this may be technically true, it's applicability is rather questionable.

First, GM warranties specifically include language that prohibits alterations to the powertrain. That's indesputable.

If you slap on a blower, and something in your engine or trans goes, the only way your GM warranty will be honored is if the dealership that you go to for warranty repair work, wants to be generous to you. And that's so unlikely it would be foolish to count on that happening.

If your powertrain fails in some way while the blower is installed, and while you have an aftermarket tune, just try to get a court in this country to order GM to honor your warranty.

The warranty language itself would make you lose. But lets just say it didn't, you would have to mount a lawsuit, including paying for your own attorney and experts (probably more money than your supercharger). In a battle of the experts over the issue of whether a perfectly good powertrain was or was not affected by the installation of a supercharger and a manipulation of a vehicle's PCM, I would not count on winning that case.

Most judges and prospective jury members are not aftermarket performance enthusiasts.

I'm just saying, you want a blower, get one, they're awesome. You will love the car every time you drive it. Keep it stock beyond the blower or build the hell out of the motor and up the boost to double digits. It's all good, but unless your family member or close friend owns a GM dealership, don't go into the process thinking the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act or any other Consumer Protection laws will help you in a jam.

Magnuson Moss would probably help you out if your only mods were simple bolt ons that didn't involve any sort of aftermarket tune. Even still, enforcing that provision takes time and money.
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