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bnsmith78 · 06-25-2010, 12:35 PM

Ordered my IOM SS (cloth, No RS 2011. MSRP of 33, 050.

I have a GM cerificate for preferred pricing...@ 32,250.

Dealer states there is no moving from that price. Is this true? Is this an ok deal?

Thanks.

SchwarzerDrache · 06-25-2010, 01:28 PM

Hmm... sounds ok. Did you try building it through Edumds or Truecar? Edmunds has 11 pricing but doesn't add in the local advertising fee. Truecar does add in the fee, but only has 10 pricing right now. If you are buying a 1SS 10 pricing is the same as 11, but if you are buying a 2SS then add on $350.

brantley847 · 06-25-2010, 02:34 PM

If it is a 2011 and you are getting less than MSRP it is a good deal in my book...

I would see if you can try to cut a deal and pick up a free vehicle cover, engine cover, gas cap, cargo net...something small that the dealer will throw on to get you to sign.

bnsmith78 · 06-25-2010, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SchwarzerDrache

Hmm... sounds ok. Did you try building it through Edumds or Truecar? Edmunds has 11 pricing but doesn't add in the local advertising fee. Truecar does add in the fee, but only has 10 pricing right now. If you are buying a 1SS 10 pricing is the same as 11, but if you are buying a 2SS then add on $350.

No, but I will try.

ssump29 · 06-25-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnsmith78

Ordered my IOM SS (cloth, No RS 2011. MSRP of 33, 050.

I have a GM cerificate for preferred pricing...@ 32,250.

Dealer states there is no moving from that price. Is this true? Is this an ok deal?

Thanks.

Sounds like too much to me. A 1SS starts off at 30950 or somewhere around that price. Only option you got is IOM color which is 325. Sounds like something else is added on.

With just those options you should be at 32,120 MSRP and thats with the destination fee included.

bnsmith78 · 06-25-2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssump29

Sounds like too much to me. A 1SS starts off at 30950 or somewhere around that price. Only option you got is IOM color which is 325. Sounds like something else is added on.

With just those options you should be at 32,120 MSRP and thats with the destination fee included.

Ah ok. I have the Boston Acustics added.

<LI id=msrpInfo>MSRP
STANDARD VEHICLE PRICE*: $30,945.00

TOTAL OPTIONS: $1,290.00
TOTAL VEHICLE & OPTIONS: $32,235.00
DESTINATION CHARGE: $850.00
TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE* : $33,085.00

GATORJAK · 06-25-2010, 04:47 PM

Ask about joining the GM credit union. I got $2000 off. (2010)

Mr_Draco · 06-25-2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnsmith78

Dealer states there is no moving from that price. Is this true? Is this an ok deal?

To answer this question, yes Preferred Pricing is controlled by GM and IS set in stone. If you get Preferred Pricing they can not go below it.

As for the deal, yes that's a good deal as Preferred Pricing is around invoice.

ta421 · 06-25-2010, 09:28 PM

hey guys i am sure it is posted some place but how can i find the true price of invoice ? i was told today that the dealer will sell me a car at invoice 2SS W/RS package no roof for 36.478.11 since the car is really a yr old should i be able to do better and wait ?

he was at 37.478 took a 1000 off for the pontiac rebate should he sell me the car for 36.478 and then the rebate ? he does get that back from GM right ? so at this point he is still making 1000 over invoice ?

oldfriend · 06-25-2010, 09:57 PM

Hey , stop guessing and go to the GM FAMELY FIRST WEB PAGE they do a great job there they will show you the price in your area for the car and the options that you want it's that simple!!!!!

Mr_Draco · 06-25-2010, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta421

hey guys i am sure it is posted some place but how can i find the true price of invoice ? i was told today that the dealer will sell me a car at invoice 2SS W/RS package no roof for 36.478.11 since the car is really a yr old should i be able to do better and wait ?

he was at 37.478 took a 1000 off for the pontiac rebate should he sell me the car for 36.478 and then the rebate ? he does get that back from GM right ? so at this point he is still making 1000 over invoice ?

Go here and build your car. http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/camaro/2010/index.html that shows you invoice pricing and yes getting a car for invoice is a deal and you will not do better unless you qualify for a rebate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldfriend

Hey , stop guessing and go to the GM FAMELY FIRST WEB PAGE they do a great job there they will show you the price in your area for the car and the options that you want it's that simple!!!!!

They do not giving you invoice pricing. They just give you employee pricing which is more.

Amanda · 06-26-2010, 10:57 AM

Isnt boston acoustics 495? is that the only other option you got?

that would make the list price 32290, in my zip code at least...

CUPRA · 06-26-2010, 11:02 AM

Eric at Classic Chevrolet has a 2011 1SS coming in, RJT for $31,612+TTL, before incentives. (Preferred pricing etc.)

So I think you can get a better price on the one you are looking at...

cab2g · 06-26-2010, 12:11 PM

Yes if you have a preferred pricing authorization and you use it, the dealer is OBLIGATED to sell at that price. However, if you negotiate a price w/o telling the dealer of your authorization, you can get a lower price. The dealer gets a kickback from GM for using the authorization code you give them. So if you tell them you have one and then tell them you want a lower price than the preferred price, they will not normally do it because you are not only getting the car for a lower price, the dealer would lose the kickback from GM... So my suggestion is to never tell a dealer you have any employee/supplier/credit union discount authorization and negotiate based off of invoice.

Also, GM dealer holdback is 3% of MSRP. So all dealers actually buy the car for ~$1000 under invoice give or take.

And don't forget invoice in your region may be significantly more than the invoice listed @ edmunds.com because they don't take into account the advertising fee that GM charges on a regional basis. This cost increases the regional invoice. My region's invoice is increased about $700. Other regions are around $400, there may be some with no advertising fee... who knows.

No matter what, you should be able to get over $1000 off MSRP no matter what the trim and the dealer will still make several hundred in profit. If you get a fully loaded 2SS, they'll be making a killing still even at $1000 off MSRP.

06-25-2010, 12:35 PM	#1
bnsmith78 Drives: 2011 IOM SS Corsa/CAI Join Date: May 2010 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 190	Pricing quesiton on my 2011 - Good deal or BS Ordered my IOM SS (cloth, No RS 2011. MSRP of 33, 050. I have a GM cerificate for preferred pricing...@ 32,250. Dealer states there is no moving from that price. Is this true? Is this an ok deal? Thanks.

06-25-2010, 04:47 PM	#7
GATORJAK Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 507 View My Garage	Ask about joining the GM credit union. I got $2000 off. (2010) __________________

06-26-2010, 11:02 AM	#13
CUPRA Drives: '21 Bronco OBX/'18 Jeep GC Altitude Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Keller, TX Posts: 1,413 View My Garage	Eric at Classic Chevrolet has a 2011 1SS coming in, RJT for $31,612+TTL, before incentives. (Preferred pricing etc.) So I think you can get a better price on the one you are looking at... __________________ Order Placed: 04/30/22 Order Accepted: 10/18/22 TPW: 11/07/22 Built: 11/18/22 VIN received: 11/19/22 On a Train: 02/27/23 ETA: TBD 2023 Camaro 2SS Convertible/M6/Shadow Grey Metallic/Adrenaline Red Interior/Carbon Flash Wheels/NPP

06-26-2010, 12:11 PM	#14
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	Yes if you have a preferred pricing authorization and you use it, the dealer is OBLIGATED to sell at that price. However, if you negotiate a price w/o telling the dealer of your authorization, you can get a lower price. The dealer gets a kickback from GM for using the authorization code you give them. So if you tell them you have one and then tell them you want a lower price than the preferred price, they will not normally do it because you are not only getting the car for a lower price, the dealer would lose the kickback from GM... So my suggestion is to never tell a dealer you have any employee/supplier/credit union discount authorization and negotiate based off of invoice. Also, GM dealer holdback is 3% of MSRP. So all dealers actually buy the car for ~$1000 under invoice give or take. And don't forget invoice in your region may be significantly more than the invoice listed @ edmunds.com because they don't take into account the advertising fee that GM charges on a regional basis. This cost increases the regional invoice. My region's invoice is increased about $700. Other regions are around $400, there may be some with no advertising fee... who knows. No matter what, you should be able to get over $1000 off MSRP no matter what the trim and the dealer will still make several hundred in profit. If you get a fully loaded 2SS, they'll be making a killing still even at $1000 off MSRP. __________________

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06-25-2010, 01:28 PM	#2
SchwarzerDrache No, it is not an SS Drives: SIM 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 491	Hmm... sounds ok. Did you try building it through Edumds or Truecar? Edmunds has 11 pricing but doesn't add in the local advertising fee. Truecar does add in the fee, but only has 10 pricing right now. If you are buying a 1SS 10 pricing is the same as 11, but if you are buying a 2SS then add on $350.

06-25-2010, 02:34 PM	#3
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,580	If it is a 2011 and you are getting less than MSRP it is a good deal in my book... I would see if you can try to cut a deal and pick up a free vehicle cover, engine cover, gas cap, cargo net...something small that the dealer will throw on to get you to sign.

06-25-2010, 09:28 PM	#9
ta421 Drives: dont have Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 15	hey guys i am sure it is posted some place but how can i find the true price of invoice ? i was told today that the dealer will sell me a car at invoice 2SS W/RS package no roof for 36.478.11 since the car is really a yr old should i be able to do better and wait ? he was at 37.478 took a 1000 off for the pontiac rebate should he sell me the car for 36.478 and then the rebate ? he does get that back from GM right ? so at this point he is still making 1000 over invoice ?

06-25-2010, 09:57 PM	#10
oldfriend Drives: Fiat 500 E Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 32.7607/N. 16.95947/W Posts: 7,816 View My Garage	Hey , stop guessing and go to the GM FAMELY FIRST WEB PAGE they do a great job there they will show you the price in your area for the car and the options that you want it's that simple!!!!!

06-26-2010, 10:57 AM	#12
Amanda Givin em hell since 87' Drives: 2011 SW 1SS M6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wttn, Wisco Posts: 136	Isnt boston acoustics 495? is that the only other option you got? that would make the list price 32290, in my zip code at least...