2010 V6 Headers, Whats the best? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

cb4dude · 08-09-2010, 03:03 PM

Looking at the numbers, a couple are close for performance and sound. Any good comparisons done? Opinions?

KMPrenger · 08-09-2010, 03:28 PM

What do you want? Shorties or Long tubes? I'll give you a good place to start...check out the V6 section and look for the exhaust sticky thread at the top. Scroll to the bottom of the first post to find the sections concering V6 shorty headers and V6 long tube headers.

Alrighty Then · 08-09-2010, 05:10 PM

Ok so question. What is the difference between short tube and long tube headers?, I mean besides the actual length of the pipes, why would someone pick long tube over short tube or vice versa?

x7productions · 08-09-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alrighty Then

Ok so question. What is the difference between short tube and long tube headers?, I mean besides the actual length of the pipes, why would someone pick long tube over short tube or vice versa?

short tubes are cheaper / good sound
long tubes are more expensive / more power

something like that is what a friend told me.
correct me if im wrong

SILVER BULLITT · 08-09-2010, 05:45 PM

mrray13 · 08-09-2010, 09:19 PM

The shorty headers for the v6 are actually more labor intensive then long tubes, are more mid length then shorty and do produce decent gains due to the longer runner length.

Long tubes are all bolt on, no welding needed, and due to the longer runners, make a big chunk more power. Of course, the hiflow cats, or lack of cats, behind them will aide in that!

Shorty headers retain factory cats, and are less likely to produce a CEL. Long tubes will produce a CEL, unless you tune, and there are more options in the long tube area. Shorty headers are cheaper, less likely to void a warranty, but don't produce the power/torque of the long tubes/hiflow cats.

Now, brand names? That's up to your budget. I prefer my ARH longtubes, abut I'm not going to knock another's choice. The ARH's do appear, IMHO, to be the best quality long tube we have available.

Apex Motorsports · 08-09-2010, 09:58 PM

Check out Stainless Works. We recently added them to our line up and have been blown away by their parts. Stainless Works headers are made in the USA from the 304L stainless steel. These materials will never red rust like the cheaper 400 series stainless materials used by other manufacturers. Stainless Works stands by the quality and workmanship of their products and it shows.

Hereis a set of their V6 headers and high flow cats.

WHIPPLECHARGED · 08-10-2010, 02:51 AM

Can't say which are best, but I have BBK LT's installed and love them. The main reason I went with BBK is they come with optional ceramic coating (This helps keep engine temps from getting as hot as without coating) and they were a lot cheaper than AR LT's. More money saved for additional mods!

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BIGK909 · 08-10-2010, 03:10 AM

i say doug thorleys are the best for shorties..anyone want to back me up on this?

Brownhornitt · 08-10-2010, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGK909

i say doug thorleys are the best for shorties..anyone want to back me up on this?

I'll back you up... But it won't be worth much since I'm still waiting on delivery. Haha. But I did choose DT shortys.

Mankind · 08-10-2010, 07:43 AM

If your buget has the room go with long tubes. As for shorties i would go with the Doug Thorley's if i were just now deciding to do it. JBA was the only option when i did mine. They have a tendancy to cause a CEL. If you are in a state with emission checks on your vehicle you need to stay with the Shorties. The Factory cats stay in place so they wont give you any grief.

PieNsky · 08-10-2010, 09:08 AM

If looking at prices on the long tubes and hi flow cats, look at what they are made of. 304 stainless is better than 409. Some of the cats are made out of steel too. On 87 octane, my dyno was 268 HP. Should have done it with 93. There hasn't been a header test like has been done with the CAIs so no one knows how much, if any, difference there may be amongst the LTs.

nak3dsnake · 08-10-2010, 09:21 AM

Go LT headers. From the numbers I've seen the LT have been making about 5+ more hp/tq than the shorties. Plus you get a deeper exhaust tone.

A.R. Headers · 08-10-2010, 11:42 AM

CB4dude, ARH systems are for those that won't settle for second best in quality, fit and finish. Our systems are entirely made in the US using 304 S/S and as some V6 owners can attest, the performance lives up to the quality. We offer up to a full system with mufflers and X-pipe that we believe will exceed the expectations of enthusiasts. If anyone needs to know more please PM me a contact number and I'll call you with all the details. Thanks.

Nick
631-608-1986

08-09-2010, 03:03 PM	#1
cb4dude Drives: 2010 LT1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Posts: 221 View My Garage	2010 V6 Headers, Whats the best? Looking at the numbers, a couple are close for performance and sound. Any good comparisons done? Opinions?

08-09-2010, 03:28 PM	#2
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,967	What do you want? Shorties or Long tubes? I'll give you a good place to start...check out the V6 section and look for the exhaust sticky thread at the top. Scroll to the bottom of the first post to find the sections concering V6 shorty headers and V6 long tube headers. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

08-09-2010, 05:45 PM	#5
SILVER BULLITT Drives: 2010 SIM 2SS/RS MONSTER Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: LOS ANGELES Posts: 1,506 View My Garage	__________________ HP MONSTER' SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BUILT, LMR CAI, CUSTOM GRIND CAM, CUSTOM BUILT CNC PORTED AND POLISHED HEADS, FAST 102MM INTAKE MANIFOLD,ARH LONG TUBES AND HIGH FLOW CATS, BIGGER INJECTORS, VALVES SPRINGS RETAINERS, MGW SHORT SHIFTER, EIBACH SPRINGS, FACTORY CHROMED WHEELS, BLACKED OUT EMBLEMS, BLACKED OUT ROOF,BLACKED OUT MARKERS, 3.5 INCH ELECTRONIC CUTOUTS, FLOWMASTERS, ZEX WET 150 SHOT, FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF =630 REAR WHEEL TORQUE ,AND 600 REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER MY JOURNALhttp://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...02#post2023802 SOON TWIN TURBO SETUP

08-10-2010, 02:51 AM	#8
WHIPPLECHARGED Drives: 2011 1SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vegas Posts: 736	Can't say which are best, but I have BBK LT's installed and love them. The main reason I went with BBK is they come with optional ceramic coating (This helps keep engine temps from getting as hot as without coating) and they were a lot cheaper than AR LT's. More money saved for additional mods!. __________________

08-10-2010, 03:10 AM	#9
BIGK909 Drives: 2010 Camaro LT/RS VR Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 84 View My Garage	i say doug thorleys are the best for shorties..anyone want to back me up on this? __________________ -MRT V1.0, H&R Springs, Injen CAI

08-09-2010, 05:10 PM	#3
Alrighty Then Drives: 2010 V6 M6 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 72	Ok so question. What is the difference between short tube and long tube headers?, I mean besides the actual length of the pipes, why would someone pick long tube over short tube or vice versa?

08-09-2010, 09:19 PM	#6
mrray13 Drives: 2010 1LT RS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: southern Illinois Posts: 2,973	The shorty headers for the v6 are actually more labor intensive then long tubes, are more mid length then shorty and do produce decent gains due to the longer runner length. Long tubes are all bolt on, no welding needed, and due to the longer runners, make a big chunk more power. Of course, the hiflow cats, or lack of cats, behind them will aide in that! Shorty headers retain factory cats, and are less likely to produce a CEL. Long tubes will produce a CEL, unless you tune, and there are more options in the long tube area. Shorty headers are cheaper, less likely to void a warranty, but don't produce the power/torque of the long tubes/hiflow cats. Now, brand names? That's up to your budget. I prefer my ARH longtubes, abut I'm not going to knock another's choice. The ARH's do appear, IMHO, to be the best quality long tube we have available.

08-09-2010, 09:58 PM	#7
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,165	Check out Stainless Works. We recently added them to our line up and have been blown away by their parts. Stainless Works headers are made in the USA from the 304L stainless steel. These materials will never red rust like the cheaper 400 series stainless materials used by other manufacturers. Stainless Works stands by the quality and workmanship of their products and it shows. Hereis a set of their V6 headers and high flow cats.

08-10-2010, 07:43 AM	#11
Mankind Whats a Millwright? Drives: 2LT/RS SIM, 05 Wht Denali Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Holden, LA Posts: 410	If your buget has the room go with long tubes. As for shorties i would go with the Doug Thorley's if i were just now deciding to do it. JBA was the only option when i did mine. They have a tendancy to cause a CEL. If you are in a state with emission checks on your vehicle you need to stay with the Shorties. The Factory cats stay in place so they wont give you any grief.

08-10-2010, 09:08 AM	#12
PieNsky Drives: Victory Red 1LS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisville,KY Posts: 1,928 View My Garage	If looking at prices on the long tubes and hi flow cats, look at what they are made of. 304 stainless is better than 409. Some of the cats are made out of steel too. On 87 octane, my dyno was 268 HP. Should have done it with 93. There hasn't been a header test like has been done with the CAIs so no one knows how much, if any, difference there may be amongst the LTs.

08-10-2010, 09:21 AM	#13
nak3dsnake Drives: 2010 Camaro IBM 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,282 View My Garage	Go LT headers. From the numbers I've seen the LT have been making about 5+ more hp/tq than the shorties. Plus you get a deeper exhaust tone.

08-10-2010, 11:42 AM	#14
A.R. Headers Drives: Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: new york Posts: 263	CB4dude, ARH systems are for those that won't settle for second best in quality, fit and finish. Our systems are entirely made in the US using 304 S/S and as some V6 owners can attest, the performance lives up to the quality. We offer up to a full system with mufflers and X-pipe that we believe will exceed the expectations of enthusiasts. If anyone needs to know more please PM me a contact number and I'll call you with all the details. Thanks. Nick 631-608-1986 __________________ www.AmericanRacingHeaders.com 100% USA MADE

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