Need some help deciding on Short Shifter - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

autobotaz · 08-11-2010, 12:46 PM

Well I am trying to decide whether to get a short shifter for my Camaro and am having a hard time weighing the many options that are out there.

I have seen online where people swear that short shifters will damage the syncros and shift forks over time. I don't really see how this is possible if the shifter is designed correctly.

Let me preface by saying that all of vehicles I have owned and driven over the years have had manual trannys but I have never used a short shifter before. So I guess I am not sure what I am missing out on.

It seems like there are two options on Camaro short shifters:

1) MGW which replaces much more than just the shifter assembly itself. These seem like a total replacement option. Update** MGW does not fit the V6.

2) Barton/Hurst/MTI which replace the shaft primarily

I have read many of the threads on the various shifters and the pros and cons of them but without actually getting my hands on one it is tough to make a decision.

So I throw my dillema out there for those of you with much more knowledge on this than I have. I would appreciate your opinions.

Thanks

Ajaxx · 08-11-2010, 12:59 PM

I have a Barton. It works well

DSteck · 08-11-2010, 01:08 PM

Personally, I'm a fan of MGW. Don't rest your hand on the shifter (pulling/pushing it inadvertently while it's in gear) and you'll be fine. Some shifters can cause problems if their travel/geometry is poor, but I wouldn't call that common.

eggydoo · 08-11-2010, 01:37 PM

I've been researching and looking as well and finally decided on one.
I ruled out Hurst cause I don't see the reasoning in paying 300+ for only a shaft replacement. If you're willing to go that high, might as well go with MGW or MTI.

flyby · 08-11-2010, 07:18 PM

MGW all the way

autobotaz · 08-12-2010, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpizzle007

i dont see any problem if you don't like shifting yourself, yes go ahead and hire a short person to shift for you.

that helps, thanks

autobotaz · 08-12-2010, 12:03 PM

Well may choices have been narrowed. I called MGW and was informed that their shifter is only for the SS, no love for the V6 apparently. Such a bummer because I was ready to order. :(

I guess Barton is my second choice.

CaniacFan · 08-12-2010, 01:26 PM

Was thinking short shifter til I saw Hurst prices, and thought - I can get my brake calipers powdercoated for that instead. I'll stick with the stock shifter, for now..

stangspanker · 08-12-2010, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autobotaz

Well I am trying to decide whether to get a short shifter for my Camaro and am having a hard time weighing the many options that are out there.

I have seen online where people swear that short shifters will damage the syncros and shift forks over time. I don't really see how this is possible if the shifter is designed correctly.

Let me preface by saying that all of vehicles I have owned and driven over the years have had manual trannys but I have never used a short shifter before. So I guess I am not sure what I am missing out on.

It seems like there are two options on Camaro short shifters:

1) MGW & MTI which replace much more than just the shifter assembly itself. These seem like a total replacement option.

2) Barton/Hurst which replace the shaft primarily

I have read many of the threads on the various shifters and the pros and cons of them but without actually getting my hands on one it is tough to make a decision.

So I throw my dillema out there for those of you with much more knowledge on this than I have. I would appreciate your opinions.

Thanks

A short throw shifter will NOT damage anything. They are actually easier on the syncros because you loose leverage to achive a shorter throw. But you will feel the syncros more because of this.

And Hurst and Barton actually replace more then the MTI does. The MTI is Just a stick replacement as well but they still use the factory plactic cage. Where as Barton and Hurst make a whole new bearing housing.

After Trying the MGW I could not justify $400 for it. My Friend had it and swore I HAD to get the MGW, I tried it, dont see what the big deal is.

I went with the Barton and abosuletly LOVE it

and so does my buddy with the MGW. In the end we both have great shifters but he spent $200 more than me.

SSOOCH · 08-12-2010, 03:29 PM

I have the hurst right now and love it. Tonight Jordan at JDP Motorsports and I are installing the brand new Short Throw Shifter designed by the Mad Scientists at PFADT Race Engineering. Stay tuned for thoughts and impressions!!!

Should be good!!!

stangspanker · 08-12-2010, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSOOCH

I have the hurst right now and love it. Tonight Jordan at JDP Motorsports and I are installing the brand new Short Throw Shifter designed by the Mad Scientists at PFADT Race Engineering. Stay tuned for thoughts and impressions!!!

Should be good!!!

PFADT made THAT shifter?

Thats hideous man, the hurst looks a LOT better.IMO

autobotaz · 08-13-2010, 12:41 PM

Just ordered a Barton shifter, flat and polished handles with old school white ball knob. Thanks for opinions everyone.

GSUNCSU · 08-13-2010, 01:20 PM

You coulda had one of these

ProudLS · 08-13-2010, 07:45 PM

I have Hurst installed with no issue, love it.

08-11-2010, 12:46 PM	#1
autobotaz Drives: Black 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ARIZONA Posts: 173	Need some help deciding on Short Shifter Well I am trying to decide whether to get a short shifter for my Camaro and am having a hard time weighing the many options that are out there. I have seen online where people swear that short shifters will damage the syncros and shift forks over time. I don't really see how this is possible if the shifter is designed correctly. Let me preface by saying that all of vehicles I have owned and driven over the years have had manual trannys but I have never used a short shifter before. So I guess I am not sure what I am missing out on. It seems like there are two options on Camaro short shifters: 1) MGW which replaces much more than just the shifter assembly itself. These seem like a total replacement option. Update** MGW does not fit the V6. 2) Barton/Hurst/MTI which replace the shaft primarily I have read many of the threads on the various shifters and the pros and cons of them but without actually getting my hands on one it is tough to make a decision. So I throw my dillema out there for those of you with much more knowledge on this than I have. I would appreciate your opinions. Thanks Last edited by autobotaz; 08-12-2010 at 08:44 PM.

08-11-2010, 12:59 PM	#2
Ajaxx Cantafordit Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Picayune, MS/Covington, LA Posts: 282 View My Garage	I have a Barton. It works well __________________ Down, But Not Out 610.7 RWHP/553.8 RWTQ

08-12-2010, 03:29 PM	#10
SSOOCH Camaro SL,UTs Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,357 View My Garage	I have the hurst right now and love it. Tonight Jordan at JDP Motorsports and I are installing the brand new Short Throw Shifter designed by the Mad Scientists at PFADT Race Engineering. Stay tuned for thoughts and impressions!!! Should be good!!! Attached Images __________________

08-13-2010, 12:41 PM	#12
autobotaz Drives: Black 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ARIZONA Posts: 173	Just ordered a Barton shifter, flat and polished handles with old school white ball knob. Thanks for opinions everyone. Last edited by autobotaz; 08-14-2010 at 01:39 AM.

08-13-2010, 01:20 PM	#13
GSUNCSU Watch This! Drives: Super Charged 1SS/RS, M6, CGM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Columbus, GA Posts: 777 View My Garage	You coulda had one of these Attached Images __________________ K&N CAI, Wet Okole Seat Covers, MagnaFlow Street Perf. Ex. (Axle Back), MPD Hood, Gary's Customz ZL1 Fascia/Vented Fenders/Custom Stripes/Paint, AAC Afterburners/Fog Light Halos/Side Markers/Misc LEDs, Bee-Otch Air Freshener, Hurst Shifter and Line-Loc(APEX), RPI Splash Guards, MagnaCharger *(Texas-Speed)(Installed by ME),* Rx Catch Can and Breather, Billet Pulleys (SC2150), ARH Headers, LPE Twin Fuel Pump, Custom Blower Cam, Custom Tune TBArwhp, TBArwtorq, Boost Gauge and Single Pod (MTI)

08-11-2010, 01:08 PM	#3
DSteck Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 587	Personally, I'm a fan of MGW. Don't rest your hand on the shifter (pulling/pushing it inadvertently while it's in gear) and you'll be fine. Some shifters can cause problems if their travel/geometry is poor, but I wouldn't call that common.

08-11-2010, 01:37 PM	#4
eggydoo Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 629	I've been researching and looking as well and finally decided on one. I ruled out Hurst cause I don't see the reasoning in paying 300+ for only a shaft replacement. If you're willing to go that high, might as well go with MGW or MTI.

08-11-2010, 07:18 PM	#5
flyby Drives: 2010 Silver SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Glen Gardner, NJ Posts: 1,339 View My Garage	MGW all the way

08-12-2010, 12:03 PM	#7
autobotaz Drives: Black 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ARIZONA Posts: 173	Well may choices have been narrowed. I called MGW and was informed that their shifter is only for the SS, no love for the V6 apparently. Such a bummer because I was ready to order. :( I guess Barton is my second choice.

08-12-2010, 01:26 PM	#8
CaniacFan Drives: '10 SS CGM #75,288, '14 Stingray Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 3,938	Was thinking short shifter til I saw Hurst prices, and thought - I can get my brake calipers powdercoated for that instead. I'll stick with the stock shifter, for now..

08-13-2010, 07:45 PM	#14
ProudLS Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: TX Posts: 193	I have Hurst installed with no issue, love it. __________________ 2010 Black/Black SS RS M6, ARH headers, Hi-flow cats w/x-pipe, Fastlane CAI, Livernois Camshaft 2C, SLP 160 Stat, SLP underdrive pulley, Hurst, Eibach lower spring, BMR lower control arms, BMR toe rods, Razzi body kit and Borla axle back. Tuned by me HPT.

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