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Old 08-10-2008, 09:47 PM   #1
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One more question to the fbodfather =)

Do you see far from reality a 1LE camaro 2010?? , i bet this time a lot of fans would opt for that set up due to the performance, not like in the 4th gens

at least i would buy one lol

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Old 08-10-2008, 10:29 PM   #2
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I think with the way that GM has been doing so far this year, I think we need to focus on sales of the base Camaro so that it can live on without fear of being canceled.

I think the upcoming Z28 (crosses fingers) will be as close to 1LE as you will get... Stiffer sway bars, stiffer springs, hopefully Koni shocks (doubtful, but an upgraded shock none the less), and Pedders has all the 1LE type bushings you will need.

The only big hinderance to the new Camaro is weight... A 4th Gen 1LE was between 3450-3550 LBS, while the new Top Dog Camaro will likely weight close to 4000 LBS if it is supercharged. (The ZR1 Supercharged Corvette weighs about 200 Lbs more than it non S/C brother).

I will probably use my 5th Gen as a DD and turn my 4th Gen into a road racer... but I still want my 5th Gen Z28 down around 3700 LBS.
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I will probably use my 5th Gen as a DD and turn my 4th Gen into a road racer... but I still want my 5th Gen Z28 down around 3700 LBS.
This is a lot like me - I'll be buying a 5th gen V6 to use as a daily driver and then making a 3rd gen road racer project car. And I'll also be shooting for weight savings on my V6 - shooting for about 3600 lbs.
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we're certainly looking at it -- but right now, the emphasis MUST be on getting the Camaro V6 and SS out -- and having it exceed your expectations....

Once that's done....................
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Old 08-10-2008, 11:19 PM   #5
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we're certainly looking at it -- but right now, the emphasis MUST be on getting the Camaro V6 and SS out -- and having it exceed your expectations....

Once that's done....................
I'm glad I'll be saving up for a while. Feel free the PM me about what boxes I'll need to check to get the 1LE. (Keep the 1LE as a secret option. It'll be more fun that way and only enthusiasts will order it.)
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we're certainly looking at it -- but right now, the emphasis MUST be on getting the Camaro V6 and SS out -- and having it exceed your expectations....

Once that's done...................Z28.
thats what it should say
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Old 08-11-2008, 10:55 AM   #7
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guys let them be successful with the base and ss and then they can figure out how to do better...

but you can't count your chickens before they hatch...you can't make all that investment without a promise of a return
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:30 AM   #8
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thats what it should say
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:54 AM   #9
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It's comforting you can get that sort of answer from the horse's mouth

FBod has a good point though - this Camaro has to do well on it's own merits before anything new happens (including the '28!)
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:09 AM   #10
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It's comforting you can get that sort of answer from the horse's mouth

FBod has a good point though - this Camaro has to do well on it's own merits before anything new happens (including the '28!)
Agreed. Except, that I think it's own merits will Supercede all expectations. The "Zxx" WILL be built. It's just a matter of WHEN and for WHAT COST?

You'd better believe the GM Insiders are betting on a "Zxx" in the 2nd year. That's what will be the "All-In" move on the "Maro Vs. Stang" Poker wars.

GM ~should~ win that bet. I Hope!!!!!
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:33 AM   #11
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for your atention and kindness , thank you father
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we're certainly looking at it -- but right now, the emphasis MUST be on getting the Camaro V6 and SS out -- and having it exceed your expectations....

Once that's done....................
This can be done by simply keeping the weight down and the price very close to that of the Mustang's. That would definitely exceed my expectations.
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Agreed. Except, that I think it's own merits will Supercede all expectations. The "Zxx" WILL be built. It's just a matter of WHEN and for WHAT COST?

You'd better believe the GM Insiders are betting on a "Zxx" in the 2nd year. That's what will be the "All-In" move on the "Maro Vs. Stang" Poker wars.

GM ~should~ win that bet. I Hope!!!!!
Cool, someone else using the ZXX! As with many others on this forum, I agree that GM is working on the next iteration of the Camaro but is keeping its eye on a few market factors and when the time is right will let the beast out of the cage... and I will be there with open arms to take her home and unleash the fury on the unsuspecting.

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This can be done by simply keeping the weight down and the price very close to that of the Mustang's. That would definitely exceed my expectations.
Weight is something GM has tried to keep down but with the new regs it is what it is. When the Mustang comes out with their redesign you will find its curb weight increasing also. The only negative comments (SS vs RS bumpers don't count) I have heard about the Camaro have come from Dale Jr who was driving and early IVER, even before they had gone to the 'Ring for tuning. Would be interesting to hear his comments now.
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From what we have all seen so far I think you will more than exceed expectations.

Lets hope gas prices keep heading south too.
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:16 AM   #15
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If the Zxx comes in the second year it'll be coming here in our "first" year - so that'll be in garage... I'm hoping the delay for it hitting the UK will give Chevy the time to develop and announce it
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:26 AM   #16
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we're certainly looking at it -- but right now, the emphasis MUST be on getting the Camaro V6 and SS out -- and having it exceed your expectations....

Once that's done....................
SWEET! I can't wait to drive one. Who knows, maybe I won't have a feeling of the need for a Z28 or the like... No, that's not true, but I still can't wait for what GM gives us. I have high confidence

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I'm glad I'll be saving up for a while. Feel free the PM me about what boxes I'll need to check to get the 1LE. (Keep the 1LE as a secret option. It'll be more fun that way and only enthusiasts will order it.)
+1 Wouldn't it be cool to be able to add that sort of option to all the models? A V6 with 1LE would be very sweet too!

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Cool, someone else using the ZXX! As with many others on this forum, I agree that GM is working on the next iteration of the Camaro but is keeping its eye on a few market factors and when the time is right will let the beast out of the cage... and I will be there with open arms to take her home and unleash the fury on the unsuspecting.

Weight is something GM has tried to keep down but with the new regs it is what it is. When the Mustang comes out with their redesign you will find its curb weight increasing also. The only negative comments (SS vs RS bumpers don't count) I have heard about the Camaro have come from Dale Jr who was driving and early IVER, even before they had gone to the 'Ring for tuning. Would be interesting to hear his comments now.
I must've missed that he drove it before the 'Ring. That would absolutely be interesting what he has to say now. I wonder if GM is done with tuning at the 'Ring and if that ~8:20 is the best time they have for the time being.
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:14 PM   #17
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At this point it really doenst matter to me becuase I cant afford one for at least 2 years. I'll start worrying then if there is still no offical word on the z28. My worst fear is buying a SS, putting all the money i plan on putting into my dream camaro and then 6 months to a year later all the sudden BAM z28!!
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:49 PM   #18
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I think that the team would have to choose between giving us either the Z or the secret 1LE. So if this ends up the case I take the Z over anything.
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:51 AM   #19
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Would the SS have enough pace under the hood to drop in a KB supercharger?
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Old 08-16-2008, 08:37 PM   #20
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Hey, I got another question for Fbod.

I've talked to a bunch of dealers around my hometown and have been told the ship date has been pushed back till September of next year. Is this true?
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Nope. But I can't answer for him. Could you imagine what would happen if GM waited till Sept to ship??
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