07-05-2013, 08:31 AM | #281 |
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Just a thought, but from my reading on this HSA thread and others, didn't one say that if you went to start out in 2nd gear it didn't activate? If so then could there be a switch for the HSA that when it senses the vehicle in first gear then it starts the HSA? Disabling that switch would only effect the HSA and nothing else in the system. Just thinking out loud here.
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07-05-2013, 08:47 AM | #282 | |
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07-05-2013, 09:03 AM | #283 | |
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I understand that but for those of us that are cheap and not wanting to spend the money, I thought that maybe there was a defeat somewhere with a switch that indicates you are in first gear. |
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07-05-2013, 10:40 AM | #284 |
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That was the early and somewhat wishful thinking. There probably still is a defeat in there somehow, but I think you'd at least be doing things like re-printing the circuit board that all those other things sit on.
Although it might be possible to rig a switch or a relay and rewire the backup lights to fool the HSA into thinking you're in reverse when you aren't, while keeping the lights from illuminating . . . you might have to remember where it was last set unless you get really creative. Norm |
07-05-2013, 01:55 PM | #285 |
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I've had no issues with my HSA, as soon as I see it come up I've hit the traction control button and it turns off. I did notice if I just run with traction control off the HSA still shows up
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07-05-2013, 04:22 PM | #286 |
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I've had mine for a week, been driving stick cars for 30 years. My driveway is steep enough that if I stop and put it in first the HSA will activate. Have not had any issues using it, take foot off brake, apply a little gas, start releasing clutch and it takes off just fine, no kill's at all. Its was very easy to get used to. The thing that will kill it is if you are used to starting the old way, which was take foot off brake, immediately on gas and release clutch at same time, you will kill the motor. If you try to do it in a hurry, it won't work, that's why they designed it the way it is.
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07-05-2013, 09:31 PM | #287 |
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But that's not the natural way for an experienced driver to drive under many forseeable situations in traffic, and anything that can get in the way of an experienced driver (like this can) is pretty much by definition not fully thought out. "Muscle memory" can be a powerful influence, and this situation is no exception.
Never mind what might happen at some point if you still have one or more other manual transmission cars that don't have this - you'd never be able to give up the "old way" completely. It still comes back to the system that is acceptable to everybody being the system that lets you shut it completely off just like you can do with TC. Norm |
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07-06-2013, 04:50 PM | #289 |
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07-06-2013, 07:24 PM | #290 |
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If you hate it (Like I Did!!!), it's just 80 bucks and less than an hour of your time to make the annoying nanny go away for ever!!! I just didn't appreciate a system that couldn't be shut off when I don't want it and I definitely don't need it!
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07-07-2013, 06:07 AM | #291 |
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No doubt that if I had a '13 m6 camaro it would be my very first mod. Buying the a6 sensor is a no brainer IMO.
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11-23-2015, 10:56 PM | #292 |
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The HSA algorithm on my '15 Z06 (manual of course) is far less intrusive than on the 1LE. Just a light throttle blip disengages it on the Z06. The 1LE has the dam thing in lock down. GM really needs to recalibrate this.
I have read about setting the parking brake to one click but guys shouldn't have to deal with this kind of work around. |
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Sometimes i try to watch the light and in advance release the brakes and wait 3 seconds for the HSA to disengage then start my takeoff. |
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11-24-2015, 09:48 AM | #294 | |
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It's a pain, but I've gotten use to taking my foot off the brake and waiting a few seconds. You can hear it release, like a pop sound, and then off I go! Crazy though, sometimes on a fairly steep incline/decline it surprises me and doesn't engage, then other times I'm on a puny almost flat and it engages. What??? Makes no sense, sometimes I'm at the same exact stop sign, sometimes it engages and sometimes it doesn't. |
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