5.7 Hemi vs. Speculated Camaro base V8

[smike07]

Originally Posted by stovt001

I'm seriously thinking we stand a good chance at seeing some Gen V engines in the Camaro. I mean after the whole CAFE thing came to a head Scott told us to forget everything we thought about engines, so it seems reasonable to me.

I think I'm 'gonna agree with you on that one. Regardless, I'm certain we will not be disappointed.

[Mr. Wyndham]

The weird thing about this Camaro...(in a good way)Is that, I think it has 'matured'. It on it's own, now.

As opposed the the past, Camaro was always kept in the shadow of the Vette, even though it could have done the Shadowing

In the past, it always had the Trans Am to worry about.

No more.
I really think that the new Camaro is still a Camaro - but we don't yet realize how 'new' it really is going to be. If a new V8 engine is introduced in our car instead of the Vette, that will be Chevy History. and I have a nagging suspicion that we're going to see just that, if not the first year, then soon after.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

The weird thing about this Camaro...(in a good way)Is that, I think it has 'matured'. It on it's own, now.

As opposed the the past, Camaro was always kept in the shadow of the Vette, even though it could have done the Shadowing

In the past, it always had the Trans Am to worry about.

No more.
I really think that the new Camaro is still a Camaro - but we don't yet realize how 'new' it really is going to be. If a new V8 engine is introduced in our car instead of the Vette, that will be Chevy History. and I have a nagging suspicion that we're going to see just that, if not the first year, then soon after.

I hope your right. I'm looking forward to seeing a V8 that will rip anything up..

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by stovt001

I'm seriously thinking we stand a good chance at seeing some Gen V engines in the Camaro. I mean after the whole CAFE thing came to a head Scott told us to forget everything we thought about engines, so it seems reasonable to me.

[camarocrazy28]

I' ve read that the base engine will almost certainly be GM's high feature direct injection V-6 and that the optional engine will be a V-8 that has yet to be announced. At least for the first year of production I think the Camaro will have only one available V-8, one we have yet to see. The following year we may see an SS or a Z-28 with an LS3 or an LS9.

[nbjczk71]

I have to agree with that last statement. I think that Chevy will roll out this Camaro more like Ford rolled out the latest Mustang, with one V6 and one V8 model available, and it WON't be the top dog model like Dodge decided to do with the Challenger. I think within 6-months we'll see an SS model with some big ponies (more than the Dodge) to compete with other top end models.

[radz28]

The sooner the better. I don't want to hear about how much faster the Challenger is than a Camaro, even if they are comparing an SRT8 to the "base" 'Maro V8.

[asrapid]

Challenger will probably get v6 in future so the base engine won't be hemi v8 with 380 hp. It will probably have v6 with power below 300 hp, hemi v8 with 380 and 6.1 l with 425 hp. Maybe later even version with 6.4 l .
GM even now has engine to cover every one of challenger engine and even more.Who knows what will have in future.

[Gatecrasher]

I have to agree with that last statement. I think that Chevy will roll out this Camaro more like Ford rolled out the latest Mustang, with one V6 and one V8 model available, and it WON't be the top dog model like Dodge decided to do with the Challenger. I think within 6-months we'll see an SS model with some big ponies (more than the Dodge) to compete with other top end models.

Exactly. Don't compare this car to the Challenger. It's a lower production, higher priced and bloated niche car that is very likely to die an ugly death once the initial rush dies down.

Look instead to the Mustang. Base V6, mid range V8 and a top end V8. base, GT, Shelby. Base, Z28, SS. The Camaro has already been sighted with the direct injection LLT out of the new CTS. There's your base V6 right around 300hp. Peg a mid-range LS3 Z28 at 380-400hp, and then perhaps some new GenV engine or LSA/LS9 variant in the SS to go crush the GT500 and SRT8.

[The_Stache]

Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

Exactly. Don't compare this car to the Challenger. It's a lower production, higher priced and bloated niche car that is very likely to die an ugly death once the initial rush dies down.

Sorry but this is wrong information, the challenger will have a base V6 3.5L (SXT model) and a base V8 5.7 Hemi(R/T) model, both in the same price range as the current charger SXT and R/T. They will also be manufacturing them starting in September 2008, THIS YEAR.

That said DCX has its own plan on how to get into and stay in the muscle car segment and is marketing its cars how it feels best.

The Camaro's cards are not on the table yet so I would not place any bets.

[Gatecrasher]

The Camaro's cards are not on the table yet so I would not place any bets.

I would. Chrysler is bleeding cash and just sacrificed their halo car (the Viper) to try to put some money back into their operations. There's talk about redesigning the Sebring even though it was just released, because of the abysmal sales. The Magnum was canceled due to lack of sales, and it was at least a practical car.

The Challenger is overweight, overpriced and under powered. The styling is too retro for most people, limiting its mass market appeal. It's not a practical car and I strongly suspect the only reason Cerberus didn't kill it was because it's the only thing they've got that's generating any positive press and the work was 98% done and the money was already spent by the time they took over Chrysler.

Mark my words, it's gonna be like the GTO was for Pontiac. 3 years, everyone that wants one will get one, and they'll quietly discontinue it due to lack of sales and a desperate need to direct those funds to the core of their product lineup. This is further exasperated by the fuel economy situation and the credit meltdown.

That said, I fully believe the same thing could happen to the Camaro too. At least their package is a bit more compelling than the Challenger though.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

Mark my words, it's gonna be like the GTO was for Pontiac. 3 years, everyone that wants one will get one, and they'll quietly discontinue it due to lack of sales and a desperate need to direct those funds to the core of their product lineup. This is further exasperated by the fuel economy situation and the credit meltdown.

That said, I fully believe the same thing could happen to the Camaro too. At least their package is a bit more compelling than the Challenger though.

And in a few years, the platform will be up for a redesign, very much like what happened with the GTO. The thing that will keep the Camaro alive will be mileage.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by WillInThe04Ranger

I know one model will have a Supercharged LS9 in it but I assume for a base ..... a LS6? (Shooting high I know lol)

The LS6 has been gone for years and I don't think you will ever see an LS9 in a Camaro. An LS8 maybe but no way it will be an LS9. They aren't going to stick their new Corvette supercar engine in a Camaro too, why would anyone buy the vette?

[radz28]

I agree. It seems to me they might have a LS8 or LSA engine later. The LS9 has too many expensive components (i.e. forged crank and pistons, Ti rods, larger head bolts, etc.) to keep it remotely affordable in a Camaro package. If I had enough money, I'd get an LS9 though!!! I'm eager to see if Mopar will offer the 6.4L Hemi in one of those cars soon. 520 horsepower... Eagads!!!