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Old 10-11-2007, 12:43 AM   #43
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Exactly.

Since those that want them, like them because they "look cool", regardless of useability, I hope that they're only available on the base cars and SS. Hopefully the down to business Z/28 will come only with useable and functional gauges.
well said, and i agree if you want it for "show" whatever but if your acually going to use your Camaro the way it's meant to be used (like in a Z/28) then your not going for "show" your going for practical use, even more if your doing hard racing and pushing the beast you got under the hood you want to know if you have a sudden drop in pressure

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Old 10-11-2007, 12:53 AM   #44
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Hate to tell you but the SS will be the top dawg I'm guessing.

Just had to pipe in there. =P
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:55 AM   #45
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Ummmm yeah. You are just guessing.
So are you.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:06 AM   #46
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:08 AM   #47
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oh, just give it up your both guessing
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:33 AM   #48
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I'm gonna sit my two dogs on the roof and have both top dawgs. NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:36 AM   #49
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in that case i'll sit all three of my dogs on the roof
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:02 AM   #50
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I'll borrow my neighbors dogs. =P We'll strap them down and drive around Lake Folsom.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:28 AM   #51
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Well, here's my opinion on it. I hate the idea of having these gauges so low, for two reasons. First, be cause I know they will collect tons of dirt/dust and be hard to clean. But also because these gauges will not be ANYWHERE near the driver's line of sight. This is why I think this gauge location will not pass federal law regulations. The only way they would work as intended (to alert the driver in the event of a problem) is to draw enough attention from the driver. The only way I see this happening is by changing the background color like Balonywolf suggests. There's really no other way to get the driver's attention so far away from where they are usually looking (at the road).

Only problem I see is, if the background goes red as a warning, then what happens if we do get customizable colors (a la Mustang) and red is one of the color choices? It would have to change to another color to be noticeable, and that may require a bit too much R&D and money for GM to wanna spend on this.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:58 AM   #52
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The one way I see to solve this is to put "idiot" lights along either the top or bottom of where the speedometer or tac is. You see a warning light, then you glance down at the actual guages. This way you have the best of both worlds. How would that sound?
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:48 AM   #53
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This is why I think this gauge location will not pass federal law regulations.
Fed regs on gauges are you need a gas gauge and a speedometer (and possibly an idiot light for obd2, cant remember), everything else is considered "convenience". You don't HAVE to have anything else to drive a vehicle. Because of that manufacturers can add, remove, or move to a weird location as they see fit. Hell go drive a scion or prius, they have the gauge cluster in the center of the car .. if that stuff can be taken out of the line of sight and pass some "non essential" gauges can be put in the back seat for all the feds care.

Check out some of the early 2000's Saturn's, They came with a tac, speedo, gas, and idiot light.. and that was it. While other manufacturers have overloaded gauges.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:50 AM   #54
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Or a friendly computer woman's voice. saying,
"Warning, oil pressure dropping - please check your engine. Have a nice day!"

They are "low", but the Saturn Ion had/has(?) all of the guages over to the side...not directly in the line of sight. On the Camaro. as these aren't 'vital' gauges, so to speak, I think they can pass fed. regs.

Personally, I think they are more than fiunctional. I mean, should we put the radio up in the main gauges because it's not in the dirvers line of sight? :p Oh wait...we did.
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Sigh.. not the badge pissing contest again.. It hasn't been announced and until it is you are BOTH just guessing. Give it up.

.. Back on topic.. No the HUD will probably not be standard, Chances are good it will be an option in a bundle, but not guaranteed to be an option until specs are released.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:37 AM   #56
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Or a friendly computer woman's voice. saying,
"Warning, oil pressure dropping - please check your engine. Have a nice day!"
As I'm talking to my wife on the phone and the female voice speaks up...the wife only hears the voice barely audible and says, "who the hell was that?! Who's in your car!?!" uh oh...
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Sigh.. not the badge pissing contest again.. It hasn't been announced and until it is you are BOTH just guessing. Give it up.
And that's a completely different thread as well..
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