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SS/LS3 · 08-14-2009, 08:58 PM

Im getting my car tuned on the dyno next week. I bought stainlessworks long tube headers and x-pipe. Also bought a LMR cold air. My question is to tune .with e-85 or 93 and has anyone tried e-85 with good results.

jpsuperman81 · 08-14-2009, 08:59 PM

Read here, http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33574 a couple posts down.

toehead93 · 08-16-2009, 08:25 AM

I went through the thread earlier and I don't think there is much difference. However, I have been told that Mobil and Sunoco offer the best quality 93-octane and Cheveron/Texaco add Techron to the gas which will affect the tune.

SS/LS3 · 08-16-2009, 10:46 AM

Thanks guys. I think im going to run 93. I was just looking to get a little extra hp. I bought a lmr cai and stainlessworks complete exhaust, it should be here this week.

camaro1 · 08-16-2009, 10:58 AM

i am thinking about trying a e85 tune,,, on a very hot humid day at wot i data logged a few degrees of knock retard

CWI · 08-16-2009, 01:01 PM

Manual explains proper gas to use and gas not to use

*DGthe3* · 08-16-2009, 03:10 PM

None of the engines on the Camaro are e85 compatible. Ethanol fuel will eat through some materials in an engine/fuel system not designed to run high concentrations of it. DO NOT use e85 unless the manufacturer says its ok.

Michael_Js · 08-16-2009, 03:13 PM

I've looked around here in San Diego and haven't seen any gas over 91 octane :( Still researching though...

SShift · 08-17-2009, 08:27 PM

Mill the heads to run 12-1 compression and run e85

mydreamcar · 08-17-2009, 08:29 PM

I wouldn't. The engine has to be specifically built to run e85, you would def do damage

redjewel · 08-17-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by toehead93

I went through the thread earlier and I don't think there is much difference. However, I have been told that Mobil and Sunoco offer the best quality 93-octane and Cheveron/Texaco add Techron to the gas which will affect the tune.

Can you elaborate or show where you found this? I have used Chevron for over 10 years almost exclusivley.
How does Techron affect the tune? This is confusing as Chevron is a Top Tier gas recommended by GM.
If there is better 93 to run in it I would like that to be substantiated.
Thanks

*The_Blur* · 08-17-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

None of the engines on the Camaro are e85 compatible. Ethanol fuel will eat through some materials in an engine/fuel system not designed to run high concentrations of it. DO NOT use e85 unless the manufacturer says its ok.

Everybody, read this! Do not put E85 in a car unless you are prepared to replace some parts with E85-compatible components. If your car is not running E85 out of the box, then you have some building to do before it is ready.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 08-17-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

Everybody, read this! Do not put E85 in a car unless you are prepared to replace some parts with E85-compatible components. If your car is not running E85 out of the box, then you have some building to do before it is ready.

You can say that again.

CAN YOU SAY MEGGA INJECTORS NEEDED!

*CamaroSpike23* · 08-18-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mydreamcar

I wouldn't. The engine has to be specifically built to run e85, you would def do damage

not necessarily. ideally, yes you want to ensure you have the proper fuel lines and other requirements to run e85 regularly as well as tuning for e85. running a stock (gasoline) tune with e85 in the tank is asking for some trouble as the two react differently.

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

You can say that again.

CAN YOU SAY MEGGA INJECTORS NEEDED!

not megga, but larger injectors would be on the list of things to change over

08-14-2009, 08:58 PM	#1
SS/LS3 Drives: 2010 ss Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: cincinnati Posts: 50	e-85 or 93 Im getting my car tuned on the dyno next week. I bought stainlessworks long tube headers and x-pipe. Also bought a LMR cold air. My question is to tune .with e-85 or 93 and has anyone tried e-85 with good results.

08-16-2009, 08:25 AM	#3
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,136 View My Garage	I went through the thread earlier and I don't think there is much difference. However, I have been told that Mobil and Sunoco offer the best quality 93-octane and Cheveron/Texaco add Techron to the gas which will affect the tune. __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

08-16-2009, 10:58 AM	#5
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08-16-2009, 01:01 PM	#6
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08-16-2009, 03:10 PM	#7
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	None of the engines on the Camaro are e85 compatible. Ethanol fuel will eat through some materials in an engine/fuel system not designed to run high concentrations of it. DO NOT use e85 unless the manufacturer says its ok. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

08-14-2009, 08:59 PM	#2
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08-16-2009, 10:46 AM	#4
SS/LS3 Drives: 2010 ss Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: cincinnati Posts: 50	Thanks guys. I think im going to run 93. I was just looking to get a little extra hp. I bought a lmr cai and stainlessworks complete exhaust, it should be here this week.

08-16-2009, 03:13 PM	#8
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	I've looked around here in San Diego and haven't seen any gas over 91 octane :( Still researching though... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

08-17-2009, 08:27 PM	#9
SShift Drives: Only Bowties! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Depths of Hell Posts: 154	Mill the heads to run 12-1 compression and run e85

08-17-2009, 08:29 PM	#10
mydreamcar My Dream Car Drives: 2011 SIM LS3 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: staten island Posts: 1,534	I wouldn't. The engine has to be specifically built to run e85, you would def do damage