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E. Bryant · 04-07-2015, 09:08 AM

What Ford has done with the Mustang is very impressive - without the Boss 302, we might not have gotten the 1LE and Z28, and the GT350 will yet again force GM to bring its A-game to the segment. This is the way that competition works, and it's great for everyone involved - especially the consumer!

As to the question of what we might see for the next-gen Z28, we shouldn't immediately rule-out the possibility that a new high-output N/A GenV is in the works. GM has never been shy about creating a lot of different flavors from its core engine architectures, and I see no reason why we should think that things will be any different with the latest pushrod V8. It all comes down to the ability to make a business case, and things would certainly be helped if, say, there was a plan to do a lightweight N/A track-focused Vette that could offer an opportunity to share development costs for this hypothetical engine.

BaylorCamaro · 04-07-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

but very little that is uniquely ground-breaking.

Wait. Seriously? The 5.2L FPC being the largest displacement FPC in production isn't ground breaking? Ford also confirmed it will be over 100hp/L. Carbon fiber wheels the first time it has been put into a production car that doesn't require you to sell your organs on the black market just to afford it. That isn't "ground breaking" ???

I love the Camaro just as much as the next guy, buy I'm going to give Ford credit, where credit is due. On PAPER the GT350 sounds like it is going to be a monster. Lighter than a Z/28, superior engine to the Z/28, just as wide tires as the Z/28 (granted they aren't as sticky) and I'm willing to bet it will have better Aero than the Z/28. Honestly I will be shocked if it cannot keep pace with a Z/28, if not set better lap times.

2cnd chance · 04-07-2015, 02:49 PM

Wow, I was just looking through some pictures from the NY Auto Show, what a high percent of ugly cars. The new Kia Optima is really awful after the great look of the outgoing model. I'd list them, however it'd take too long.

Oh and sorry not a fan of the new Malibu.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 04-07-2015, 03:40 PM

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Oh and sorry not a fan of the new Malibu.

+1.

I want to see it in person...in pictures the front end looks....droopy and sad.

2cnd chance · 04-07-2015, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

+1.

I want to see it in person...in pictures the front end looks....droopy and sad.

No doubt it is a superior car, just not much presence. It looks smallish. It reminds me of the 90's cars very round edges. I agree we'll see how it looks in person.

Number 3 · 04-10-2015, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Muscle cars have only two doors. Four doors with big power are sport sedans. It isn't the correct use of the term, but I like lead sleds.

Back to the weight. Jim, no way we are getting a track edition of the Camaro that weighs less than a C7 Z06. We're back to a Gino's East bet.

I was fostering disuzzion in The House, not predicting. I would take a Gino's East bet on about anything, though. I's either Win/Win or Lose/Win.

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Originally Posted by Scarrzz

I looked in the dictionary under "Z/28 impressiveness" and one of the synonyms listed was:

Awesome!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

+1.

I want to see it in person...in pictures the front end looks....droopy and sad.

Your opinion only makes the Malibu more sad.

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

No doubt it is a superior car, just not much presence. It looks smallish. It reminds me of the 90's cars very round edges. I agree we'll see how it looks in person.

I think it will be something better in person. It is a larger car and closer to the Impala in size.

Me I like the front end. I think it's the best attempt at the Chevy familial split grill.

But that's why God invented the internet. So we could share our opinions with others.

Bhobbs · 04-10-2015, 05:45 PM

Gotta love an Iowa Class broadside. Nine 16" naval guns at once. Pretty awesome sight.

Looks like a couple of the 5" guns are being fired too.

macalot · 04-10-2015, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Gotta love an Iowa Class broadside. Nine 16" naval guns at once. Pretty awesome sight.

Looks like a couple of the 5" guns are being fired too.

fwiw dept: I was told by a retired Navy sailor that she would move 18" on a broadside like that. I was thinking it was more, but I'm sure it felt like a heckuva lot more

Bhobbs · 04-10-2015, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by macalot

fwiw dept: I was told by a retired Navy sailor that she would move 18" on a broadside like that. I was thinking it was more, but I'm sure it felt like a heckuva lot more

I've heard the same before but it's been shown to be a myth. If you use conservation of momentum, with zero friction, the ship would be moved at 6 inches per second by the guns firing. Add in the fact the ship is in water and it would move very little, if at all.

*mlee* · 04-10-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Agreed. I think the GT350/R is going to be a Z/28 slayer, IMO.

Anyone who knows me in person knows how highly I think of this car, but am reserving judgment until we see real performance figures. However, with as tight lipped as GM has been with the 6th gen, I have to believe they've got something up their sleeve and I find it hard to believe after introducing the 1LE, ZL1 & Z/28 that GM is going to let Ford own the handling category with the GT350.

However that did lead to this hilarious April Fools prank I posted on Facebook. The comments were hilarious.

I think you forgot to say April Fools.. this is the 1st I've heard it.

BaylorCamaro · 04-10-2015, 07:07 PM

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I think you forgot to say April Fools.. this is the 1st I've heard it.

Did not!

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*mlee* · 04-10-2015, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Did not!

LMAO... and for the record I never bought into it...

Number 3 · 04-10-2015, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by macalot

fwiw dept: I was told by a retired Navy sailor that she would move 18" on a broadside like that. I was thinking it was more, but I'm sure it felt like a heckuva lot more

Well just look at the wake from the blast. It sure looks like more than 18" just at the bow. Looks like 10 feet or more.

JusticePete · 04-10-2015, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

I was fostering disuzzion in The House, not predicting. I would take a Gino's East bet on about anything, though. I's either Win/Win or Lose/Win.

Any chance you can swing by Detroit, oh say around May 16th

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Well just look at the wake from the blast. It sure looks like more than 18" just at the bow. Looks like 10 feet or more.

It sure looks like it moved.

04-07-2015, 02:49 PM	#15627
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	Wow, I was just looking through some pictures from the NY Auto Show, what a high percent of ugly cars. The new Kia Optima is really awful after the great look of the outgoing model. I'd list them, however it'd take too long. Oh and sorry not a fan of the new Malibu. __________________

04-10-2015, 05:45 PM	#15631
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,989	Gotta love an Iowa Class broadside. Nine 16" naval guns at once. Pretty awesome sight. Looks like a couple of the 5" guns are being fired too. __________________

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E. Bryant Gearhead Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 252	What Ford has done with the Mustang is very impressive - without the Boss 302, we might not have gotten the 1LE and Z28, and the GT350 will yet again force GM to bring its A-game to the segment. This is the way that competition works, and it's great for everyone involved - especially the consumer! As to the question of what we might see for the next-gen Z28, we shouldn't immediately rule-out the possibility that a new high-output N/A GenV is in the works. GM has never been shy about creating a lot of different flavors from its core engine architectures, and I see no reason why we should think that things will be any different with the latest pushrod V8. It all comes down to the ability to make a business case, and things would certainly be helped if, say, there was a plan to do a lightweight N/A track-focused Vette that could offer an opportunity to share development costs for this hypothetical engine.